Non Footy Chat Thread II

[Gary Gutful]

I know, but there are still some loonies out there that think that Obama was an alright Prez.
Craaa-zyyyy!

Obama had his issues but he was clearly better than Trump.

A talking piece of dog shit would be better than that insecure, grossly incompetent, brain dead, self interested, lying sack of dog f**k.

I’m not from any side of politics but Trump is easily the most unsuitable person ever to reach office.

 

[Avenger]

Obama had his issues but he was clearly better than Trump.

A talking piece of dog shit would be better than that insecure, grossly incompetent, brain dead, self interested, lying sack of dog f**k.

I’m not from any side of politics but Trump is easily the most unsuitable person ever to reach office.

He is a knob but their economy is going well.

 

[Gronk]

He is a knob but their economy is going well.

He adopted the post GST trajectory. So what has he done exactly other than not f**king it up ? *

* Watch this space with the juvenile trade war with China.

 

[Gronk]

No question. The Tour Championship plays like a US Open and he looked in total control.

I love Tiger Woods. So happy for him.

 

[hindy111]

Trump is a dicknob

 

[Gary Gutful]

He is a knob but their economy is going well.

Need to look beyond employment rates at some of the other metrics such as wage growth, loan defaults etc. The middle class are working their rings off to barely stay afloat.

All of Trumps tax cuts largely benefited the upper class and his idiotic trade ramblings continue to make the stock market gittery.

If there is any good news in the economy it is that it has survived despite rather than because of Trump.

That said Obama wasn’t great at managing the economy either.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I love Tiger Woods. So happy for him.

Did you wear your red shirt when watching the final round this morning? I did.

 

[Avenger]

Need to look beyond employment rates at some of the other metrics such as wage growth, loan defaults etc. The middle class are working their rings off to barely stay afloat.

All of Trumps tax cuts largely benefited the upper class and his idiotic trade ramblings continue to make the stock market gittery.

If there is any good news in the economy it is that it has survived despite rather than because of Trump.

That said Obama wasn’t great at managing the economy either.

I only liked Trump getting in because I hated Hillary more. I do acknowledge however that he is a narcissistic idiot.

 

[Gronk]

I only liked Trumo getting in because I hated Hillary more. I do acknowledge however that he is a narcissistic idiot.

That's based on Bill Clinton's bombing of Belgrade in 1999 ? She was just First lady back then and preparing to run for a senate seat in NY. Madeleine Albright was Secretary of State who convinced the war room to hit the button. I know there are reports that Hillary "encouraged" Bill to do it. It was a horrible time in Europe then. All over a battle for oil. Sadly it was dressed up as a humanitarian crisis and escalated. I'm not sure who was on the side of big oil and who was just conned. Sadly it was all very shady and Serbia lost the equivalent of us losing Tasmania. Merkins just came in and took it.

But it was about oil and a pipeline.

https://www.monbiot.com/2001/02/15/yes-it-was-about-oil/

 

[Gary Gutful]

I only liked Trumo getting in because I hated Hillary more. I do acknowledge however that he is a narcissistic idiot.

Fair enough. I think Hillary would have been a safer pair of hands but understand why some people despise the Clintons.

 

[Avenger]

That's based on Bill Clinton's bombing of Belgrade in 1999 ? She was just First lady back then and preparing to run for a senate seat in NY. Madeleine Albright was Secretary of State who convinced the war room to hit the button. I know there are reports that Hillary "encouraged" Bill to do it. It was a horrible time in Europe then. All over a battle for oil. Sadly it was dressed up as a humanitarian crisis and escalated. I'm not sure who was on the side of big oil and who was just conned. Sadly it was all very shady and Serbia lost the equivalent of us losing Tasmania. Merkins just came in and took it.

But it was about oil and a pipeline.

https://www.monbiot.com/2001/02/15/yes-it-was-about-oil/

It's not just a Tasmania. Kosovo is the cradle of the Serbian identity. They should all be locked up the corrupt pieces of shit.

 

[Suitman]

Wow.

 

[TheRam]

Rupert has more of a say on that than the president. No, which of Obama’s actual policy dictates or actions affected your life?

Every single treaty he signed, every single regulation he signed, every single law/executive order he signed, every single power station he closed down, every single word he uttered effected every western leader and they all followed suit. But like I said,he wasn't the only one, virtually all the presidents before him were exactly the same. GLOBALISTS!

Look at some of what Trump has done in his very short time as President by waving that magic wand that Obama so arrogantly mocked him with on the campaign trail. Millions back in jobs, record black employment, 4.1 economy growth, reduced the company tax rate to as low as 15-20% to compete with giants like China, who for example have 0% for the companies owned by the generals and tax cuts for most American citizens, just to name a few.

Re-investments by corporations in the hundreds of billions due to better tax laws and new tariffs that help protect investments and help compete against China, India, Mexico and others, I think the figure now is over a trillion dollars worth of new capital, including $100 billion by Apple who begrudgingly announce they are opening up a new felicity back in the US now. Consumer confidence is through the roof and obviously that has a roll on effect internationally.

Withdrew from the TPP, and the Paris Accord, saved us from shooting ourselves in the head and loosing hundreds of billions over time not to mention wiping out millions of quality jobs to the larger economies in the agreement. We are a very small economy player in the world. These agreements/treaties favour the bigger, stronger non-unionised economies. We need to sign agreements on a one on one basis with countries and industries so as to get the best possible outcome for ourselves and the other party. These one size fits all agreements only long term benefit the larger economies and in particular the multi international companies that writing them and pushing for them.

But like I said, all the things that I have written above, either effect us directly, or indirectly. Not to understand that whether you like Trumps policies or not is being in denial or not understanding the massive influence the worlds largest economy has on us and the rest of the world. Trump has achieved hundreds of things while in office, including record arrests of paedophiles that you never here of on MSM. Most of what he is doing has already or will eventually start to push us in that direction, which is more of a Sovereign direction not global. China for example with its policies is trying to push us and other counties under their influence. I know which economic power I'd rather be influenced by.

Just my opinion.

 

[Gronk]

felicity

I saw that as a teenager. *giggity*

 

[84 Baby]

Every single treaty he signed, every single regulation he signed, every single law/executive order he signed, every single power station he closed down, every single word he uttered effected every western leader and they all followed suit. But like I said,he wasn't the only one, virtually all the presidents before him were exactly the same. GLOBALISTS!

Look at some of what Trump has done in his very short time as President by waving that magic wand that Obama so arrogantly mocked him with on the campaign trail. Millions back in jobs, record black employment, 4.1 economy growth, reduced the company tax rate to as low as 15-20% to compete with giants like China, who for example have 0% for the companies owned by the generals and tax cuts for most American citizens, just to name a few.

Re-investments by corporations in the hundreds of billions due to better tax laws and new tariffs that help protect investments and help compete against China, India, Mexico and others, I think the figure now is over a trillion dollars worth of new capital, including $100 billion by Apple who begrudgingly announce they are opening up a new felicity back in the US now. Consumer confidence is through the roof and obviously that has a roll on effect internationally.

Withdrew from the TPP, and the Paris Accord, saved us from shooting ourselves in the head and loosing hundreds of billions over time not to mention wiping out millions of quality jobs to the larger economies in the agreement. We are a very small economy player in the world. These agreements/treaties favour the bigger, stronger non-unionised economies. We need to sign agreements on a one on one basis with countries and industries so as to get the best possible outcome for ourselves and the other party. These one size fits all agreements only long term benefit the larger economies and in particular the multi international companies that writing them and pushing for them.

But like I said, all the things that I have written above, either effect us directly, or indirectly. Not to understand that whether you like Trumps policies or not is being in denial or not understanding the massive influence the worlds largest economy has on us and the rest of the world. Trump has achieved hundreds of things while in office, including record arrests of paedophiles that you never here of on MSM. Most of what he is doing has already or will eventually start to push us in that direction, which is more of a Sovereign direction not global. China for example with its policies is trying to push us and other counties under their influence. I know which economic power I'd rather be influenced by.

Just my opinion.

Obama's and Trump's macroeconomic effects have minimal impact on a minor economy like ours and even with economies of scale even less effect on an individual person. My question was more focused on why you would even care what Obama or any US president does? Even if they are the most powerful individual in the world, Trump's election has shown there are far greater powers than wielded by the US president.
So your ideal world is 200 odd North Korean type hermit countries?
And you realise that Trump's "sovereign direction" is a move towards further US globalism?

 

[Gronk]

Protectionism is good for short term politics and bad for long term economics. Trump is only worried about his electorate liking him and being re-elected. The chickens will eventually come home to roost after the death of NAFTA, TPP etc, when the USA will need to deal with Isolationism it it's true sense.

Countries like Australia have wasted no time in moving on from the TPP and if he doesn't watch it, we will include China in it. You might note that the day after ScoMo was elected he went to Indonesia. Look for them to tie the TPP knot soon.

 

[Gary Gutful]

China are quietly having Trumps lunch and if he isn’t careful they will replace it with Beef and Blackbean.

 

[strider]

You know, i reckon ScoMo is doing ok so far

For a sharks fan

 

[hindy111]

You know, i reckon ScoMo is doing ok so far

For a sharks fan

How was your day you 46yld merkin?

 

[strider]

How was your day you 46yld merkin?

Shit actually .... some stressful crap at work this arvo

And you?