Non Footy Chat Thread II

[hindy111]

Nobody is ever out for a very long time. Winning parties move toward their fringe, creating space in the middle for the opposition to pick up a new bunch of disgruntled centrists.

I think you're wrong. Based on what teachers are teaching kids at school. Very left bias. Right wing is sort of perceived as greedy and a selfish capitalist pig who lacks empathy.

 

[strider]

I can do all of those things. An 80s baby are perhaps the best educated. Th used encyclopaedias but also computers.

Did you have a set of Funk & Wagnals?

 

[hindy111]

Did you have a set of Funk & Wagnals?

No. I do have Walt Disney set.

 

[hindy111]

Wonderfull world of knowledge

 

[Eelogical]

Every generation may say the same thing. I was born early 80s. I have seen things change from being a teen and early 20s when there was no social media, Mobile phones amongst other things.
Are things better now? Travel is, food there is a lot more options, cars are more reliable, access to informations,recipes, learning in general,comfort...
But you can argue simple is better. Just different times is all. Perhaps one advantage was people never knew what was bad for them in your generation. Smokes,Sugar etc. You just did it. And there was barely any rules. There are so many rules now.

Each to their own. I'm not saying your time is worse or better. All I'm saying is that for me I don't have any qualms about when I was born. I have loved many aspects of each decade and how they have influenced my life.

 

[strider]

No. I do have Walt Disney set.

Of what? Cartoons?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I think you're wrong. Based on what teachers are teaching kids at school. Very left bias. Right wing is sort of perceived as greedy and a selfish capitalist pig who lacks empathy.

Except that corporations are all presenting themselves as socially progressive, and the right is moving toward increased regulation. The elderly (conservative voters) are mostly pro-welfare now. As for learning shit in school, there's always been a backlash against education. That goes extra for universities now that the student debt crisis has eroded some of their legitimacy. There's now a popular idea that universities are just hungry for paying customers, funded by student debt, for qualifications that no longer provide an advantage in the job market. Things have changed plenty over the past 20 years (since I've been paying attention). Talking to older people, things have been changing longer than that. For example, left used to mean liberal but I've seen plenty of discourse where progressives (authoritarian left) are critical of liberals (increasingly a conservative position) for not being sufficiently activist.

About 90 years ago the Nazi party was explicitly socialist. So were they far right or far left? The answer is that things have changed so much it's impossible to categorise them by modern political standards.

 

[hindy111]

Each to their own. I'm not saying your time is worse or better. All I'm saying is that for me I don't have any qualms about when I was born. I have loved many aspects of each decade and how they have influenced my life.

Yes. Nobody will no any different anyhows.

 

[hindy111]

Of what? Cartoons?

Ffs they released encyclopedias to help encourage kids to learn.

 

[Suitman]

Each to their own. I'm not saying your time is worse or better. All I'm saying is that for me I don't have any qualms about when I was born. I have loved many aspects of each decade and how they have influenced my life.

I agree.
I have loved each and every decade that I have lived in since the 70's. The 70's were the best.
The 60's when I was born, I don't remember anything except the music.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

This giraffe better not spoil the Barty Party!

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

How good was that! f**k Carty, it's Barty all the way!

 

[strider]

Party!

 

[hineyrulz]

Nobody is ever out for a very long time. Winning parties move toward their fringe, creating space in the middle for the opposition to pick up a new bunch of disgruntled centrists.

Regarding the green vote, it is ripe ground for anti-immigration types. With sexual identity politics, most immigrants are socially conservative and suspicious of that sort of thing. There are plenty of fault lines, and this is how parties flip on issues. Left wing politics used to be about the working class, for example. Now it's the ideology of wealthy urban elites.

You vote the Libs until you can stand them and you vote Labour until you can afford it.

 

[hineyrulz]

Well done Ash!!! Awesome stuff she's a class act.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

The Royal meeting seemed a bit cringey.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Barty just wants a tinny and a forty twenty….

 

[Gronk]

Pretty good for a girl who gave it away for a bit and played cricket.

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[Bandwagon]

I think you're wrong. Based on what teachers are teaching kids at school. Very left bias. Right wing is sort of perceived as greedy and a selfish capitalist pig who lacks empathy.

It's conservative vs liberal ideology not really left vs right, though there's a lot of alignment. The thing though about the conservative vote is that when people have little in the way of assets ( so most young people ) they want change, so they'll align liberal, once they gain assets as they get older, well then they want to protect them, so don't want change, and will align more towards conservatives.

It's well known over time that as a population ages, it'll lean more towards conservative ideology, but as a population ages, since the dawn of the boomers, they've also become more wealthy, and when you're wealthy, you tend to want to protect your wealth, and given liberal ideology gears more towards wealth redistribution, it makes sense that those who want to protect there assets will lose their interest in liberalism.

 

[Bandwagon]

Except that corporations are all presenting themselves as socially progressive, and the right is moving toward increased regulation. The elderly (conservative voters) are mostly pro-welfare now. As for learning shit in school, there's always been a backlash against education. That goes extra for universities now that the student debt crisis has eroded some of their legitimacy. There's now a popular idea that universities are just hungry for paying customers, funded by student debt, for qualifications that no longer provide an advantage in the job market. Things have changed plenty over the past 20 years (since I've been paying attention). Talking to older people, things have been changing longer than that. For example, left used to mean liberal but I've seen plenty of discourse where progressives (authoritarian left) are critical of liberals (increasingly a conservative position) for not being sufficiently activist.

About 90 years ago the Nazi party was explicitly socialist. So were they far right or far left? The answer is that things have changed so much it's impossible to categorise them by modern political standards.

Ha ha , the Nazi's had socialist in their name so they was socialists.

Why is the right so intent on re-writing history and ignoring that fascism is explicitly right wing, and that socialism is based on labour holding the power over the means for production, not the state.