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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Gronk

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strider said:
ATAGI made a ruling .... apparently they make all the right decisions ..... so I guess its all good then
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I don’t think that’s true. It seems he has simply informed Tennis AU that he holds an exemption and is on way. He needs to talk his way across the border before he deals with tennis officials.

www.theguardian.com

‘Appalling message’: outrage over Novak Djokovic’s medical exemption to play Australian Open

Former AMA president says Djokovic shouldn’t be allowed into Australia, while fellow players express surprise at the decision
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Gronk said:
I don’t think that’s true. It seems he has simply informed Tennis AU that he holds an exemption and is on way. He needs to talk his way across the border before he deals with tennis officials.

www.theguardian.com

‘Appalling message’: outrage over Novak Djokovic’s medical exemption to play Australian Open

Former AMA president says Djokovic shouldn’t be allowed into Australia, while fellow players express surprise at the decision
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Regardless, it's simply not in ATAGI's remit to decide if some joker can lob up and play tennis.

That isn't their role.
 
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Do you really think ATAGI made the decision?

Or were you just looking for a bit of a pointless dig?
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yeah maybe it wasn't them directly .... but it was their guidelines that were satisfied ...

“Novak Djokovic will compete at the Australian Open and is on his way to Australia,” a Tennis Australia statement read.

“Djokovic applied for a medical exemption, which was granted following a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts.

“One of those was the Independent Medical Exemption Review Panel appointed by the Victorian Department of Health.

“They assessed all applications to see if they met the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) guidelines.”
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Point is, some health autority merkins are making a judgement ..... we think they are just tennis lovers only turning a blind eye this time round? ..... or are health authorities flip floppers?
 
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strider said:
yeah maybe it wasn't them directly .... but it was their guidelines that were satisfied ...



Point is, some health autority merkins are making a judgement ..... we think they are just tennis lovers only turning a blind eye this time round? ..... or are health authorities flip floppers?
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The guidelines would have been written some time ago, for universal application, the way they are applied though is a political decision.

That's on the Federal ( immigration ) and Victorian ( everything else regulation wise ) government/s.

For sure there's something crook here, but credit where it's due.
 
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Gary Gutful said:
Fkn ATAGI lover.
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Team Djokovic makes explosive threat as Novak ‘held under police guard’​

Novak Djokovic’s father made an explosive statement as the tennis star was “held captive” for hours after touching down in Australia.

Andrew McMurtry and Mathew Murphy


Novak Djokovic is being held at Melbourne's Tullamarine Airport over a visa mix-up as his Australian Open campaign is thrown into doubt. This comes after the state government confirmed it will not support his visa application. The World Number One arrived in Melbourne around 11 o'clock last night. One of the Nine newspapers…

Novak Djokovic has landed in Australia but faced an extraordinary drama at Tullamarine Airport threatening to end his grand slam hopes.

The world number one touched down on an Emirates flight from Dubai into Melbourne shortly after 11pm Wednesday night AEST.

But as of 5am, Djokovic still hadn’t passed through passport control.
His father Srdjan reportedly told a Serbian radio station that his son was “isolated in a room” at the airport without his entourage or mobile phone.
“Novak is currently in a room which no one can enter,” Srdjan Djokovic, told the B92 internet portal. “In front of the room are two policemen.”
Srdjan later released an explosive statement to Serbian media.
“I have no idea what’s going on, they’re holding my son captive for five hours,” he said. “This is not a fight for the libertarian world, this is not just a fight for Novak, but a fight for the whole world!
“If they don’t let him go in half an hour, we will gather on the street, this is a fight for everybody.”


www.news.com.au

Scott Morrison reveals Novak Djokovic visa twist: ‘Exemption was not in place’

A second Australian Open hopeful has had their visa cancelled and is being detained in the same detention hotel as Novak Djokovic.
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Speaking on Wednesday morning, Tiley outlined the process that will see the Serbian athlete soon arrive in Australia, and said the tennis superstar's application was reviewed and approved anonymously by two independent medical bodies.

'Novak applied for a medical exemption which was granted by a panel of experts,' he said.

Professional players do not have to reveal their personal or medical information... the grounds are the same for everyone.

'They were given the opportunity to be added to the Australian Immunisation Register which sees (some) people exempt from vaccines if approved by a panel.


'As an organisation, we (Tennis Australia) abided by the conditions and the decision was left in the hands of medical experts.

'A total of 26 athletes applied for the same exemption - and (only) a handful were granted.'

While the identity of those other players or coaching staff was not revealed, Tiley was quick to point out no 'special favours' were granted to Djokovic.

'We told players as far back as six months ago getting vaccinated would ensure they could arrive and then play in Australia,' he added.

'It is up to Novak whether he wants to disclose his medical status and personal information.'

Speaking on 3AW, Tiley confirmed there was no special treatment given and said Djokovic 'did what everyone else could do to come to Australia'.

'Every application was reviewed anonymously. No one knew whose application was received by who. They looked at it purely on the grounds that were set medically by the government,' he said.

Djokovic's successful exemption followed a review process involving two independent panels of medical experts — the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) and the Independent Medical Exemption Review Panel appointed by the Victorian Department of Health.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Tennis Australia boss reveals Novak Djokovic will play in Melbourne

Tennis Australia CEO Craig Tiley has clarified why tennis superstar Novak Djokovic was granted an exemption to defend his title at the Australian Open on medical grounds.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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^^^^^ re: him being held at the airport.

You can’t rock up. You have to apply online at least 2 weeks before you travel and seek a travel exemption.



Individual exemptions can be requested by travellers who are not holders of an eligible visa or who are unvaccinated, holding any visa type.

You may be considered for an individual travel exemption by the Commissioner of the Australian Border Force or decision makers if you are:

  • a foreign national travelling at the invitation of the Australian Government or a state or territory government authority for the purpose of assisting in the COVID-19 response
  • a foreign national whose entry into Australia would be in the national interest, supported by the Australian Government or a state or territory government authority
  • providing critical or specialist medical services, including air ambulance, medical evacuations and delivering critical medical supplies
  • a foreign national with critical skills or working in a critical sector in Australia
  • a foreign national sponsored by your employer to work in Australia in an occupation on the Priority Migration Skilled Occupation List (PMSOL)
~~

The Commissioner of the Australian Border Force may grant you an individual exemption if you are seeking to travel for compassionate and compelling reasons. Compassionate and compelling reasons include, but are not limited to, needing to travel due to the death or critical illness of a close family member.

You need to apply for an exemption at least two weeks, but not more than two months, before your planned travel.

Your request must include:

  • traveller details: name, date of birth, visa type and number, passport number
  • proposed residential address and phone number in Australia
  • your reasons for coming: why you should be granted an exemption
  • a supporting statement: setting out how you meet one of the grounds for an exemption
  • accompanying evidence.
If you are not granted an exemption, you should not continue with your travel plans, as you will not be permitted to board a flight to Australia. If you are granted a travel exemption, you need to take evidence of that exemption decision to the airport.

covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au

Department of Home Affairs Website

Home Affairs brings together Australia's federal law enforcement, national and transport security, criminal justice, emergency management, multicultural affairs, settlement services and immigration and border-related functions, working together to keep Australia safe.
covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au
 
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ABC just stated that the Feds contacted VIC sports minister last night and asked if they were prepared to sponsor his application. Their response was that border entry was a matter for the federal government.

Reading between the lines, Dan wouldn’t want to be the guy who makes the difficult call. Scotty would lap that up and deflect blame because he doesn’t hold the pen that signs visa exemptions.
 
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