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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Gary Gutful

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You forgot the the one where he gave an American lines-woman a tracheostomy and went down in agony as if a scud missile hit her despite replays showing the ball wouldn't have taken the fluffy bit off a lemon meringue.
I captured that one.

Your Novak love is admirable but where I draw the line is the idea that he is disliked purely because he is Serbian. He is disliked because of his actions.

It wouldn't matter what race he was, anyone with the same track record would be equally disliked.
 

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I captured that one.

Your Novak love is admirable but where I draw the line is the idea that he is disliked purely because he is Serbian. He is disliked because of his actions.

It wouldn't matter what race he was, anyone with the same track record would be equally disliked.
It's not that he is Serbian, at least on this forum. I know that because I'm from a Serbian background and I'm clearly the most liked member here.

Generally it's because he doesn't come from the norm of what a tennis player should be from and how they should act. This is why If I were him I couldn't give a f**k and wouldn't do these silly from the heart thank you's after winning a match. If I were him I'd grab my balls and say something in Serbian.

There is however an element of him being Serbian which is why they don't like him in the US. Bombing those nasty Serbs in '99 put paid to that.
 

Gary Gutful

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It's not that he is Serbian, at least on this forum. I know that because I'm from a Serbian background and I'm clearly the most liked member here.

Generally it's because he doesn't come from the norm of what a tennis player should be from and how they should act. There is however an element of him being Serbian which is why they don't like him in the US. Bombing those nasty Serbs in '99 put paid to that.
Mate. The level of forgiveness that sports players get by the public is unlike anything normal people recieve.

Be human and successful and people will love you.

He has only mastered one component which is why he will never have the respect that his ability deserves.

His race is irrelevant. He's treated purely on his actions. Quit race baiting. Its distasteful and inaccurate.
 

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“Today I exercised my power under section 133C (3) of the Migration Act to cancel the visa held by Mr Novak Djokovic on health and good order grounds, on the basis that it was in the public interest to do so,” Mr Hawke said in a statement.

I told you it was that section you silly, pricks.
 

Gary Gutful

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“Today I exercised my power under section 133C (3) of the Migration Act to cancel the visa held by Mr Novak Djokovic on health and good order grounds, on the basis that it was in the public interest to do so,” Mr Hawke said in a statement.

I told you it was that section you silly, pricks.
And this is what Section 133 says you f**ken donut. Its even in the subheading FFS!

MIGRATION ACT 1958 - SECT 133C​

Minister's personal powers to cancel visas on section 116 grounds
Action by Minister--natural justice applies

(1) If a notification was given under section 119 to the holder of a visa in relation to a ground for cancelling the visa under section 116, and the Administrative Appeals Tribunal or the former Migration Review Tribunal or former Refugee Review Tribunal, or a delegate of the Minister:

(a) decided that the ground did not exist; or

(b) decided not to exercise the power in section 116 to cancel the visa (despite the existence of the ground);
 

Avenger

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Mate. The level of forgiveness that sports players get by the public is unlike anything normal people recieve.

Be human and successful and people will love you.

He has only mastered one component which is why he will never have the respect that his ability deserves.

His race is irrelevant. He's treated purely on his actions. Quit race baiting. Its distasteful and inaccurate.
Mate I've experienced it in the US. I have an Australian passport. However the town where I was born in sounds funny. The Americans on 3 separate occasions have asked me where that is. When I say Serbia, I have been stripped searched once and searched more thoroughly on 2 other occasions.

Please mate, the world is full of racism. As I posted earlier, please don't insult my intelligence. It happens, racism exists, don't be naive or even worse be ignorant of it.
 

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And this is what Section 133 says you f**ken donut. Its even in the subheading FFS!

MIGRATION ACT 1958 - SECT 133C​

Minister's personal powers to cancel visas on section 116 grounds
Action by Minister--natural justice applies

(1) If a notification was given under section 119 to the holder of a visa in relation to a ground for cancelling the visa under section 116, and the Administrative Appeals Tribunal or the former Migration Review Tribunal or former Refugee Review Tribunal, or a delegate of the Minister:

(a) decided that the ground did not exist; or

(b) decided not to exercise the power in section 116 to cancel the visa (despite the existence of the ground);
The power rests with Section 133 sub section 3 and that is the power that may be challenged, particularly the bit about in the public interest. The bit where Novak is a danger to every citizen in Australia, perhaps the world.

Now back to your damper, you merkin.
 

Gary Gutful

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Mate I've experienced it in the US. I have an Australian passport. However the town where I was born in sounds funny. The Americans on 3 separate occasions have asked me where that is. When I say Serbia, I have been stripped searched once and searched more thoroughly on 2 other occasions.

Please mate, the world is full of racism. As I posted earlier, please don't insult my intelligence. It happens, racism exists, don't be naive or even worse be ignorant of it.
I know that racism exists. Don't disingenously suggest that I think otherwise.

All I'm saying is that it is my strong belief that when a privileged, millionaire superstar sportsman gets legitimately criticised for poor behaviour then the racism card is laughable.
 

Gary Gutful

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The power rests with Section 133 sub section 3 and that is the power that may be challenged, particularly the bit about in the public interest. The bit where Novak is a danger to every citizen in Australia, perhaps the world.

Now back to your damper, you merkin.
Your ignorance on this issue is staggering.

...and also, just so you are clear I'm the son of Irish immigrant parents. Grew up on black pudding and Guinness rather than Damper.

I cant ever reveal my real name but its laughably irish.
 

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“Today I exercised my power under section 133C (3) of the Migration Act to cancel the visa held by Mr Novak Djokovic on health and good order grounds, on the basis that it was in the public interest to do so,” Mr Hawke said in a statement.
I told you it was that section you silly, pricks.
Yep you were right. The Minister, as is his right by law (the same law that previously ruled in favour of Novak), applied Section 133C (which clearly references Section 116) of the Act which states:


Action by Minister--natural justice applies

(1) If a notification was given under section 119 to the holder of a visa in relation to a ground for cancelling the visa under section 116, and the Administrative Appeals Tribunal or the former Migration Review Tribunal or former Refugee Review Tribunal, or a delegate of the Minister:
(c) the Minister considers that the ground exists;

I’d say that based on the evidence over the last few days where an affidavit presented in court contradicts the direct testimony from the defendant on social media a few days later is more than sufficient evidence to suggest the grounds exist. But it’s not what you or I think, the law provides for the Minister to make that decision based on all of the evidence presented to them (which you and I aren’t privy to).
 

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I know that racism exists. Don't disingenously suggest that I think otherwise.

All I'm saying is that it is my strong belief that when a privileged, millionaire superstar sportsman gets legitimately criticised for poor behaviour then the racism card is laughable.
In your opinion it is. I disagree. He came from nothing and they don't like it that he is from Eastern Europe and the best of all time.
 

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Your ignorance on this issue is staggering.

...and also, just so you are clear I'm the son of Irish immigrant parents. Grew up on black pudding and Guinness rather than Damper.

I cant ever reveal my real name but its laughably irish.
Does it start with O?

Are Novak's lawyers ignorant if they take it on?
 

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Your ignorance on this issue is staggering.

...and also, just so you are clear I'm the son of Irish immigrant parents. Grew up on black pudding and Guinness rather than Damper.

I cant ever reveal my real name but its laughably irish.
Good one Mick.
 

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I’d say that based on the evidence over the last few days where an affidavit presented in court contradicts the direct testimony from the defendant on social media a few days later is more than sufficient evidence to suggest the grounds exist. But it’s not what you or I think, the law provides for the Minister to make that decision based on all of the evidence presented to them (which you and I aren’t privy to).
Gaz is privy to it. He is also privy to what every person that follows sport thinks. You see he knows there aren't racists that follow sport. Not one. Just like when we Aussies weren't racist about Murali taking the most wickets, it was because he was solely a chucker, nothing else. There was not a hint of racism. It just can't be. It's sport FFS and Murali never carried on like Novak.
 

Gary Gutful

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In your opinion it is. I disagree. He came from nothing and they don't like it that he is from Eastern Europe and the best of all time.
That should be something that would be celebrated but he has f**ked his chances of that happening.

I posted a litany of offences. Find it interesting that you didn't really refute any of those. Actually, its not that interesting given how difficult it would be.
 

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