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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Suitman

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Despite all the warnings, people still drive through flooded roads.
Really, these people need to be added to the Darwin Awards list.
I've had over 100 mm's since midnight. The city has had 29 mm's.
It has been relentless here today and is continuing to be torrential as I type.
 

Noise

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They like to make it sound more dramatic.
It's a dangerous and threatening ECL.
Yep, media froth on weather events. ECL's (which as you pointed out this is)bring the most damage. Often though the media call Tasman Lows, East Coast Lows when they are in fact different.
 

Bandwagon

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So I finally got into town today and checked on the shop, it's pretty f**ked, I got a couple of brick walls just gone, a couple of roller doors blown out, internal suspended ceiling trashed, a section of my front windows about 6 meters long with double doors in it is sitting on my showroom floor in one piece, obviously shit everywhere.

I scored a tinnie, and a shipping container, though it's not in the best spot and is kinda in the way, I also had two skip bins , but now have three.

Oh, and I have mud, lots and lots of mud.

By the time It got to dark to keep going the water had gone down around the CBD so I drove around for a bit of rubber necking and it looks like a f**king warzone, it's just amazing the amount of damage, I really don't know how long it'll be before life returns to any kind of normality.
 

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Yep, media froth on weather events. ECL's (which as you pointed out this is)bring the most damage. Often though the media call Tasman Lows, East Coast Lows when they are in fact different.

I haven't heard them called Tasman Lows for years. The popular and more true name these days is East Coast Lows, which this one is. Can you explain the difference? Are Tasman Lows just decaying TC's?
I'm just under the understanding that the terminology has changed over the years.
Tasman Lows are now called ECL's.
 

Suitman

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So I finally got into town today and checked on the shop, it's pretty f**ked, I got a couple of brick walls just gone, a couple of roller doors blown out, internal suspended ceiling trashed, a section of my front windows about 6 meters long with double doors in it is sitting on my showroom floor in one piece, obviously shit everywhere.

I scored a tinnie, and a shipping container, though it's not in the best spot and is kinda in the way, I also had two skip bins , but now have three.

Oh, and I have mud, lots and lots of mud.

By the time It got to dark to keep going the water had gone down around the CBD so I drove around for a bit of rubber necking and it looks like a f**king warzone, it's just amazing the amount of damage, I really don't know how long it'll be before life returns to any kind of normality.

That is so sad to hear mate. I, as well I'm sure we all do, feel for you.
Do you mind if I ask what type of business you run in town? I'm just trying to understand the extent of damage that your business may have suffered.
It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember.
If you want to keep your anonymity, I understand if you decide not to say.
 

Bandwagon

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That is so sad to hear mate. I, as well I'm sure we all do, feel for you.
Do you mind if I ask what type of business you run in town? I'm just trying to understand the extent of damage that your business may have suffered.
It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember.
If you want to keep your anonymity, I understand if you decide not to say.

Without being to specific I sell, and service machinery, I have around a 250 sqm showroom, and around a 200 sqm workshop with a fair bit of that having mezzanine, total building height would be around six meters, all my stock , plant and such was packed into the mezzanine, which is above 1 in a 100 flood level, water went all but over the top of the roof. so everything went underwater.

The workshop is a large steel shed on slab, some of it lined, I've lost some sheets in a few places and all the linings, Mezzanine seems ok structurally, nothing appears to have moved and the flooring looks to be intact, the showroom is all glass frontage, sides are Besser block, and one corner which is amenities is single brick, and the back wall is just a stud wall dividing the showroom from the workshop.

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Eelogical

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That is so sad to hear mate. I, as well I'm sure we all do, feel for you.
Do you mind if I ask what type of business you run in town? I'm just trying to understand the extent of damage that your business may have suffered.
It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember.
If you want to keep your anonymity, I understand if you decide not to say.
I'll give it a crack, not trying to pre-empt Bandy but Lismore is my home town. I saw several severe floods over the 12 years that I lived there. The major problem is that the CBD along with with a mix of residential areas are on one side on the Wilson River. South Lismore (mainly residential) is on the other. Both are low lying areas, and to make matters worse, Leycester Creek joins the Wilson River in the middle of the CBD area. Lismore Heights and to some extent, East Lismore, are generally unaffected by the floods because of their elevation above the river. If Bandy's business is anywhere near the CBD (which I presume it is based on his comments) then it would be devasted, especially if he had $$$ invested in stock. The biggest problem that I can see is that Lismore is like a lot of other flood affected regions (Brisbane River suburbs, Windsor/Penrith for example). Residents and businesses have to decide whether to stay and pay exorbitant insurance premiums, not pay at all and hope for the best, or leave.
 

Suitman

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Without being to specific I sell, and service machinery, I have around a 250 sqm showroom, and around a 200 sqm workshop with a fair bit of that having mezzanine, total building height would be around six meters, all my stock , plant and such was packed into the mezzanine, which is above 1 in a 100 flood level, water went all but over the top of the roof. so everything went underwater.

The workshop is a large steel shed on slab, some of it lined, I've lost some sheets in a few places and all the linings, Mezzanine seems ok structurally, nothing appears to have moved and the flooring looks to be intact, the showroom is all glass frontage, sides are Besser block, and one corner which is amenities is single brick, and the back wall is just a stud wall dividing the showroom from the workshop.

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Wow. 😟

That looks devastating mate. Those pictures make me sad.
That's going to take some coming back from.
Insured I hope.
Not much I can do for you from here in Sydney besides wish you the best and quickest recovery, and that you are back up and running as soon as possible.
 

Noise

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I haven't heard them called Tasman Lows for years. The popular and more true name these days is East Coast Lows, which this one is. Can you explain the difference? Are Tasman Lows just decaying TC's?
I'm just under the understanding that the terminology has changed over the years.
Tasman Lows are now called ECL's.
No there is a difference. A Tasman Low is any low pressure system that sits in the Tasman sea where as an ECL has to have a number of things occur for it to be classified as such.

Meteorologists determine East Coast Lows as systems that display the following:

East Coast low has to form within 500 kilometres of the eastern Australian coastline. The other aspect of their positioning is that they must form between 25 and 40 degrees south. Also, an ECL must at some stage move parallel to the coastline.

The Bureau of Meteorology have some extra qualifiers for categorising an ECL; the system in question must exhibit gale-force winds along the coast, generate flooding rains, and create large prolonged storm swells. Again, those mid-Tasman low pressure systems fail to fit the bill.https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-analysis/2015/04/20/when-east-coast-low-not-east-coast-low
 

Eelogical

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Without being to specific I sell, and service machinery, I have around a 250 sqm showroom, and around a 200 sqm workshop with a fair bit of that having mezzanine, total building height would be around six meters, all my stock , plant and such was packed into the mezzanine, which is above 1 in a 100 flood level, water went all but over the top of the roof. so everything went underwater.

The workshop is a large steel shed on slab, some of it lined, I've lost some sheets in a few places and all the linings, Mezzanine seems ok structurally, nothing appears to have moved and the flooring looks to be intact, the showroom is all glass frontage, sides are Besser block, and one corner which is amenities is single brick, and the back wall is just a stud wall dividing the showroom from the workshop.

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Is that our near the Airport. Not that it matters. Damn, that's tough for you mate. I hope you can recover from this.
 

Bandwagon

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I'll give it a crack, not trying to pre-empt Bandy but Lismore is my home town. I saw several severe floods over the 12 years that I lived there. The major problem is that the CBD along with with a mix of residential areas are on one side on the Wilson River. South Lismore (mainly residential) is on the other. Both are low lying areas, and to make matters worse, Leycester Creek joins the Wilson River in the middle of the CBD area. Lismore Heights and to some extent, East Lismore, are generally unaffected by the floods because of their elevation above the river. If Bandy's business is anywhere near the CBD (which I presume it is based on his comments) then it would be devasted, especially if he had $$$ invested in stock. The biggest problem that I can see is that Lismore is like a lot of other flood affected regions (Brisbane River suburbs, Windsor/Penrith for example). Residents and businesses have to decide whether to stay and pay exorbitant insurance premiums, not pay at all and hope for the best, or leave.

I'm over south, the damage is mostly I figure from the rush of water when the levy overtopped.
 
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