Non Footy Chat Thread II

[Bandwagon]

Wow.

That looks devastating mate. Those pictures make me sad.
That's going to take some coming back from.
Insured I hope.
Not much I can do for you from here in Sydney besides wish you the best and quickest recovery, and that you are back up and running as soon as possible.

Nah, no flood insurance, after 2017 floods most insurers won't touch much of Lismore for flood, and the only that would wanted 70k PA

 

[Suitman]

No there is a difference. A Tasman Low is any low pressure system that sits in the Tasman sea where as an ECL has to have a number of things occur for it to be classified as such.

Meteorologists determine East Coast Lows as systems that display the following:

East Coast low has to form within 500 kilometres of the eastern Australian coastline. The other aspect of their positioning is that they must form between 25 and 40 degrees south. Also, an ECL must at some stage move parallel to the coastline.

The Bureau of Meteorology have some extra qualifiers for categorising an ECL; the system in question must exhibit gale-force winds along the coast, generate flooding rains, and create large prolonged storm swells. Again, those mid-Tasman low pressure systems fail to fit the bill.https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-analysis/2015/04/20/when-east-coast-low-not-east-coast-low

Cheers. That makes a lot of sense.
Yesterday's BOM 4 Day synoptic by definition actually had it as an ECL. Today's chart looks quite different and probably covers your definition.



This is a more trough based system.

Interesting that I have asked this question elsewhere tonight and the same answer has been provided.
An occluded front attached to a trough with a centre of low pressure attached but certainly not an ECL.
See below from the NZ Met Service who provide much better synoptic charts than the BOM.



One thing that is agreed is that it is not a media driven f**king rain bomb!!

 

[Suitman]

Nah, no flood insurance, after 2017 floods most insurers won't touch much of Lismore for flood, and the only that would wanted 70k PA

Mmm. Why does that not surprise me.

 

[Noise]

Cheers. That makes a lot of sense.
Yesterday's BOM 4 Day synoptic by definition actually had it as an ECL. Today's chart looks quite different and probably covers your definition.

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This is a more trough based system.

Interesting that I have asked this question elsewhere tonight and the same answer has been provided.
An occluded front attached to a trough with a centre of low pressure attached but certainly not an ECL.
See below from the NZ Met Service who provide much better synoptic charts than the BOM.

View attachment 58490

One thing that is agreed is that it is not a media driven f**king rain bomb!!

Yea the moving parallel to the coastline part can be sometimes hard to determine when maps are 12 hrs apart. As can these lows embedded in troughs because you don’t get the classic onion ring image on the map

 

[Bandwagon]

Mmm. Why does that not surprise me.

Yeah, it's just ridiculous. If I paid it from then onwards that's five years so 350k, I bought the building in 2009 for 500k, but insurance value ( I am insured for everything except flood ) is 900k.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Without being to specific I sell, and service machinery,

*drugs

 

[Gary Gutful]

I'll give it a crack, not trying to pre-empt Bandy but Lismore is my home town. I saw several severe floods over the 12 years that I lived there. The major problem is that the CBD along with with a mix of residential areas are on one side on the Wilson River. South Lismore (mainly residential) is on the other. Both are low lying areas, and to make matters worse, Leycester Creek joins the Wilson River in the middle of the CBD area. Lismore Heights and to some extent, East Lismore, are generally unaffected by the floods because of their elevation above the river. If Bandy's business is anywhere near the CBD (which I presume it is based on his comments) then it would be devasted, especially if he had $$$ invested in stock. The biggest problem that I can see is that Lismore is like a lot of other flood affected regions (Brisbane River suburbs, Windsor/Penrith for example). Residents and businesses have to decide whether to stay and pay exorbitant insurance premiums, not pay at all and hope for the best, or leave.

Literally the most ridiculous place to ever to plonk a town.

 

[Suitman]

Yea the moving parallel to the coastline part can be sometimes hard to determine when maps are 12 hrs apart. As can these lows embedded in troughs because you don’t get the classic onion ring image on the map

Yep, anyway, the totals continue to add up.




Torrential here at the moment under a yellow/orange bit on the radar.

 

[Bandwagon]

*drugs

FFS I'm not that successful.

 

[Gary Gutful]

FFS I'm not that successful.

*local

 

[strider]

penrith and the hawksbury are gonna be a shocker .... there's been a shitload of rain in the warragamba catchment (down into the southern highlands) that is gonna make its way downstream

 

[hindy111]

Hasn't been much in Sydney. A bit of rain but nothing to cause any issues.

You have to wonder why town are allowed to be built in first place in flood zones? People are losing their whole lifes work.

 

[84 Baby]

Hasn't been much in Sydney. A bit of rain but nothing to cause any issues.

You have to wonder why town are allowed to be built in first place in flood zones? People are losing their whole lifes work.

Because flood zones make for good farming
And also transport/water accessibility. Most towns are built near waterways.
Waterways flood

 

[84 Baby]

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We’re getting f**ked on 2 sides. Obviously the low over the barrier reef is f**ken drinking it in.
Usually the southern fronts help push it away but the low over the north west are also cutting them off.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

That's what I keep saying.

 

[hineyrulz]

The River has returned under my house, this is truly nuts.


Feel sorry for the poor buggers North of Brisbane they have to go through all this BS again.

 

[Gronk]

We’re getting f**ked on 2 sides. Obviously the low over the barrier reef is f**ken drinking it in.
Usually the southern fronts help push it away but the low over the north west are also cutting them off.

All this just to stop the Freedom March. Wake up people !

 

[84 Baby]

All this just to stop the Freedom March. Wake up people !

Nothing can stop the people!

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No merkin is forcing me to eat vegetables. That play doh elephant looks f**king delicious.