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Non Footy Chat Thread II

hindy111

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Rates up again. Did they not see this coming 4yrs ago when they dropped rates to below 2% and threw money to anyone?
Now we are all getting screwed. I dont know enough about it all but I can't help but feel this was planned. I mean if they know what stops inflation they also know what would cause it.

Someone with more knowledge on this I would love to hear why all this has happened.
 
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Rates up again. Did they not see this coming 4yrs ago when they dropped rates to below 2% and threw money to anyone?
Now we are all getting screwed. I dont know enough about it all but I can't help but feel this was planned. I mean if they know what stops inflation they also know what would cause it.

Someone with more knowledge on this I would love to hear why all this has happened.

Well, it was planned in the sense that when they cut rates to help keep people spending during Covid (and avoid a mother f**ker of a recession), they knew what one day rates would rise. What they f**ked up was telling people that they thought rates wouldn't have to rise til 2024 (at the time financial markets didn't believe that and they were right). The RBA have only limited room to move....what other country's central banks do necessarily has quite a bit of influence on the RBA's choices (interest rates affect exchange rates and exchange rates affect whether our businesses can sell their shit overseas etc).

But....when money's cheap, people do stupid things. Then they whinge about it.
 

hindy111

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Well, it was planned in the sense that when they cut rates to help keep people spending during Covid (and avoid a mother f**ker of a recession), they knew what one day rates would rise. What they f**ked up was telling people that they thought rates wouldn't have to rise til 2024 (at the time financial markets didn't believe that and they were right). The RBA have only limited room to move....what other country's central banks do necessarily has quite a bit of influence on the RBA's choices (interest rates affect exchange rates and exchange rates affect whether our businesses can sell their shit overseas etc).

But....when money's cheap, people do stupid things. Then they whinge about it.

What I assumed was they'd go up. But not as much as have. So they where under 2%. I looked at it and went yeah ok I will lock in for 4yrs. They most likely won't go up in that time ( Ends Dec 24) But they have. I also thought they'd only go up maybe 1 -2 % so variables would sit around the 3.5-4% range.
I think now it's hit 7% and that's the issue. Not them going up but by the amount they have.

I am not one who borrowed a whole heap so for me personally it will be under control and not a huge issue. Plus I am in a line of work where there is plenty and if I need more $ I can just do a few more hours quite easily.

But I know people who borrowed 750k to get their first home and on salaries. Every rise is $35 a week out of pocket. May not sound a lot but there has been 11 so $400 gone or 20k a year.
I feel for them. They didn't go over their heads.
I also know of someone who took a 1.5mill. Like you said people do stupid things when moneys cheap. I think some people also have champagne taste on beer money.
 

IFR33K

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The issue for me isn’t that the banks want their money and upping their rates at a record pace.

it’s that the Sydney housing market is overinflated. We needed rates hikes 10-15 years ago, to keep housing affordable.
 

hindy111

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The issue for me isn’t that the banks want their money and upping their rates at a record pace.

it’s that the Sydney housing market is overinflated. We needed rates hikes 10-15 years ago, to keep housing affordable.

Exactly but these wealthy business people who have large property portfolios have no interest in this.
 

IFR33K

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Exactly but these wealthy business people who have large property portfolios have no interest in this.


I totally hear you, but how are tomorrow’s generation going to survive and buy houses.


only way I’ll be able to help my kids is to keep working till I’m 80 ffs. Ffs.
 

JokerEel

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Rate Hikes don't work anymore.. Too many old f**ker are now retired and have paid off their homes so the rate hike isn't doing shit to them..

The Merkin on SEN said up the GST which probably is a better option these days.

And how on God's name is Petrol prices so high when a barrios the same price 10 years ago!
 

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I assume they mean heartless is anyone suggesting anything? ... im gonna guess alot of people thought he suicided. If they had blurted that on social media surely that would have been considered heartless if it didnt end up the case ... they didnt do the lifeline thing on the stories until the next day
 

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I assume they mean heartless is anyone suggesting anything? ... im gonna guess alot of people thought he suicided. If they had blurted that on social media surely that would have been considered heartless if it didnt end up the case ... they didnt do the lifeline thing on the stories until the next day
No they are quite specific. Did you read it ?
 

hindy111

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I just asked a question but. I never stated a fact. See when I was at school we where told always ask questions. Cause if you didn't see it yourself it maybe a lie.

It's fine you're pro medicine. I have no issue with modern science. I will however question these big Pharma companies because they have a history of selling stuff deemed safe and then 3yrs later it being pulled off shelf and banned.

Now if you used a modicum of critical thinking you might understand why I am questioning all of this. I have the stuff in me. It isn't like I an some anti vaxxer. If I had my time over again I wouldn't touch it but. Its funny how all of a sudden the whole virus went from a deadly killer too nothing to worry about now let's get back to work and fire the economy back up.


f**kn ashols
 

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