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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Poupou Escobar

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Ok, so that's your view - well kind of your assumption of what my view is... but anyway.
You've made clear your view of religion and religious types.
Aren't you the one who just said that people wouldn't stay in a relgions/church if they didn't agree with one of their stances (e.g. their stance on marriage equality)?
No I said they will agree to disagree and cherry pick what suits them. The majority aren't going to walk out in a huff because they disagree with something. That's what a hysterical neurotic like yourself would do.
Your circular arguments are circular...
Is it circular just because I shoot down all of your arguments? You're the one who goes in a circle looking for a victory. Methinks this 'circular arguments' line is the last resort of a bloke who keeps getting his arse handed to him.
A rather simplistic assumption (strawman) about the views of others. I don't blame religion for the hurtful views of religious people. I personally blame the stupidity of those religious people who are influenced (or if you like, pick and choose) to hold the hurtful views.

Which leads us back to the question you didn't answer... were you trying to say you find homosexuality revolting, or that you don't find incest revolting?
Oh I answered it. But what you do in private is your business.
 

Bazal

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We are obviously still placental mammals. My point is that we are no longer 'just' animals.

No I understood the implication. I just disagree that we're not animals. In both senses of the word.

Humans too often demonstrate that we are most certainly still animals.
 

Poupou Escobar

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100% agree. The hypocrisy is that most of the people voting NO have probably trashed the 10 commandments sometime in their lives.

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But they probably believe those ten commandments should be legislation. Breaking a law doesn't mean you don't think that law should exist. It just means you found it inconvenient at the time. As we've established, humans are hypocrites.
 

Poupou Escobar

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No I understood the implication. I just disagree that we're not animals. In both senses of the word.

Humans too often demonstrate that we are most certainly still animals.
But we are also more, quite obviously so. I think the worst parts of our nature are what proves we are animals. The best parts comes from somewhere else.
 

Bazal

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But we are also more, quite obviously so. I think the worst parts of our nature are what proves we are animals. The best parts comes from somewhere else.

IMO you can be as far above the animals as you like when everything's coming up Milhouse but ultimately you are only as good as you are at your worst. But I'm a depressed merkin so I might just be pessimistic.
 

Bazal

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Old barty's gone quiet. I reckon he's hit the reportfag button. Loves a victory, that merkin.

He also loves a vanishing act...normally when he's up against it.

Probably logs off and sits in front of a mirror smugly telling himself how utterly fantastic he is.
 

Poupou Escobar

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IMO you can be as far above the animals as you like when everything's coming up Milhouse but ultimately you are only as good as you are at your worst. But I'm a depressed merkin so I might just be pessimistic.
Yeah agreed. We're all good blokes when things are going well. That's why the economically comfortable tend to support social justice. The downtrodden only support social justice if it's going to benefit them personally.
 

Gronk

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But they probably believe those ten commandments should be legislation. Breaking a law doesn't mean you don't think that law should exist. It just means you found it inconvenient at the time. As we've established, humans are hypocrites.

Some people behave they are infallible but and try and impose a strong moral position on others. Go figure.

I might put this here.

Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

 

Bazal

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Some people behave they are infallible but and try and impose a strong moral position on others. Go figure.

I might put this here.

Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

And, lo, did the soccer mum with the "You Know What I'm Gonna Need to Speak to Your Manager" haircut thusly cast a stone, despite having had two children out of wedlock, and engaging in four extra-marital affairs herself including one with a woman, because people only believe something to be a sin when others are doing it....
 

Kornstar

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Some people behave they are infallible but and try and impose a strong moral position on others. Go figure.

I might put this here.

Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

So he was cool if they stoned her as long as the stone thrower was without sin? Nice!
 

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