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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Gronk

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Given they won’t have kids to look after and no need to live near jobs I’d say rent will be an easy expense to cover in retirement. Passive income will pay for it, and if they’ve invested in income generating assets (rather than a home that is now probably too big) they’ll have a lot more to spend than a home owner.

Plenty of merkins will need to sell their homes in retirement.

If they have invested in income generating assets ? LOL with what.
 

Gary Gutful

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I find it a little boring here.

Sometimes when I'm bored and in the zone I try and spruce it up. To the sensitive pussy losers out there in virtual land I have a proposal. Yours truly will take a break from this forum until either Jarryd Hayne officially returns to the mighty Parramatta Eels or Bitcoin reaches US$25K or the Eels win their 5th premiership.

Deal?
Deal

...and if you break that promise then you need to donate $100 to Guide Dogs Australia.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I have never lived anywhere my rent would cover a mortgage on the same place. But if you’re comparing somebody without a deposit with another person who magically found a sum of money large enough to reduce repayments to the level of rent then you’re comparing apples with oranges.
 

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I have never lived anywhere my rent would cover a mortgage on the same place. But if you’re comparing somebody without a deposit with another person who magically found a sum of money large enough to reduce repayments to the level of rent then you’re comparing apples with oranges.

Or its a totally different housing market to the one in which you live
 

Chipmunk

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Canberra property really is a f**ked up market!! It is criminal what they do there by limiting the release of land to artificially increase the price.

Land should be cheap as in Canberra considering how much there is down there, yet it's so f**ken expensive!

Actually the price of land in this country is probably the main reason this country is becoming so unproductive in the world's economy. We have plenty of it, yet it's so expensive, thus it drives up the price of everything including wages.

It's expensive because the incomes are the highest of any city in the country and we have the most disposable incomes to throw around. It's got little to do with the release of land, although if they released more land it would obviously make things cheaper, but who are all these people that would supposedly be then buying them? They wouldn't be people already living in the city. We have a very large proportion of home ownership as it is.
 

Joshuatheeel

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It's expensive because the incomes are the highest of any city in the country and we have the most disposable incomes to throw around. It's got little to do with the release of land, although if they released more land it would obviously make things cheaper, but who are all these people that would supposedly be then buying them? They wouldn't be people already living in the city. We have a very large proportion of home ownership as it is.

What comes first the chicken ? Or the egg?
 

hindy111

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I find it a little boring here.

Sometimes when I'm bored and in the zone I try and spruce it up. To the sensitive pussy losers out there in virtual land I have a proposal. Yours truly will take a break from this forum until either Jarryd Hayne officially returns to the mighty Parramatta Eels or Bitcoin reaches US$25K or the Eels win their 5th premiership.

Deal?

Haha you know he is returning. Id rather you stay anyhow. Tbh 50% of people who post in here I find boring. I may disagree with you but i will stop amd read your posts as I scroll down.
 

hindy111

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I have never lived anywhere my rent would cover a mortgage on the same place. But if you’re comparing somebody without a deposit with another person who magically found a sum of money large enough to reduce repayments to the level of rent then you’re comparing apples with oranges.


Well not at the start. Of course if rents say $500 a week and lets say goes up $10- 20 a year.
The pl
Roperties value for that kind of rent return would be around 650k.
If you borrowed 600k after deposit your paying $735. Thats allowing $75 for water and rates per week.

So your saving $235 a week.

Now that figure goes down $10 - $20 a week, Lets average it to $15.

So your saving money for the first 15 yrs. And paying extra for the last 15 yrs.
Wouldnt that even out too paying the same amount POU?

We are also not factoring in putting extra money towards home loan which redices interest and wohld save more.

Ultimately after 30 yrs you have outlayed the same or more renting but own nothing.

Your comparing rent prices with house prices at the same time and locking that in as a figure your using to compare.

Even if houses stagnate for 5yrs they will rise again. Rent will rise. But the amount of mo ey and home loan repayment should remain equal unless of course interest rates rise.
 
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Canberra property really is a f**ked up market!! It is criminal what they do there by limiting the release of land to artificially increase the price.

Land should be cheap as in Canberra considering how much there is down there, yet it's so f**ken expensive!

Actually the price of land in this country is probably the main reason this country is becoming so unproductive in the world's economy. We have plenty of it, yet it's so expensive, thus it drives up the price of everything including wages.

Limited supply is certainly part of the story. But Canberra also has the highest median household income in the country.....lots of double-income couples on $170k plus combined.

Releasing more land would certainly reduce prices in the burbs, but wouldn't do much to prices in the Inner North/South.

I just got lucky buying when I did. Came back from Europe, got the shits with my landlord who would never meet his obligations and thought 'f**k it, I can buy a place for $180k'.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Limited supply is certainly part of the story. But Canberra also has the highest median household income in the country.....lots of double-income couples on $170k plus combined.

Releasing more land would certainly reduce prices in the burbs, but wouldn't do much to prices in the Inner North/South.

I just got lucky buying when I did. Came back from Europe, got the shits with my landlord who would never meet his obligations and thought 'f**k it, I can buy a place for $180k'.

Yeah of course people will always want to live close to the action (Manuka / Kingston etc, etc), but really for the outer suburbs the cost for land is madness considering there is open land everywhere!!

So is Canberra incomes higher because of the stupid land prices ?

I do know plenty of PS are at higher levels there then they would be any where else in Aust.

Additionally does the land prices limit the supply of workers able to move there thus increasing incomes ?
 

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