Northern Eagles. Central Coast. Gosford

[MugaB]

@Perth Red @Get Rid of The Donkeys

 

[docbrown]

As I've said before, Super League was a generation ago. Anybody under 30 really has no understanding of that baggage. They have no memory of the Northern Eagles. North Sydney and the Central Coast are basically up for grabs for whoever wants to engage them. And that's the key - nobody is engaging them on a consistent basis.

It's unlikely that with so many other locations bidding, the Central Coast isn't going to get their own team any time soon. But the area will be 500,000 people in 15 years. It's 350,000 already.

The NRL needs to coordinate a package of 6-8 games to be played at Gosford each season. 3-4 with the Knights as the away team and 3-4 with the Sea Eagles as either the home or away team. That expands the geographic bases of both teams whilst ensuring that Rugby League continues to dominate the market. And if the Sea Eagles don't want to take that initiative, Cronulla would be my second choice, as they desperately need to be more than just a shire team.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I am warming to the idea of putting a team on the Central Coast. Great stadium. Decent population. Great junior base churning out talent.

 

[blue bags]

Definitely need games played there every weekend

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Definitely need games played there every weekend

It's a pity the Bears have turned their back on Gosford.

 

[blue bags]

It's a pity the Bears have turned their back on Gosford.

The pasifika Grizzlies Bear's

Play home games Gosford central coast
The players. Fans would love it

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The pasifika Grizzlies Bear's

Play home games Gosford central coast
The players. Fans would love it

Central Coast Centaurs.

 

[blue bags]

The Pasifika Grizzlies Bear's
Could play Eagles at Gosford and
New stadium Brooksvale oval
Central Coast is a really nice area

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The Pasifika Grizzlies Bear's
Could play Eagles at Gosford and
New stadium Brooksvale oval
Central Coast is a really nice area

Imagine how good it would be if Newcastle and Central Coast had full time tenants, with Wollongong holding 8 games?

 

[reanimate]

Manly should be taking 3 or 4 games to Gosford.

Keeping Northern Sydney engaged with the game is more important than the Central Coast.

A Sea Eagles team that covers and controls both the Northern Beaches and North Shore has the potential to be a powerhouse. The two regions together are huge in terms of area and potential. A combined population of around ~730k+ is a healthy base to work with.

As I've said before, Super League was a generation ago. Anybody under 30 really has no understanding of that baggage. They have no memory of the Northern Eagles. North Sydney and the Central Coast are basically up for grabs for whoever wants to engage them. And that's the key - nobody is engaging them on a consistent basis.

Nobody engages with the North Shore because the NRL are still sitting on their hands when it comes to making a decision on the Bears. It’s 2024 and we still don’t know if they’re coming back or not. And if they are, in what capacity.

No team is going to invest anything into the North Shore when the NRL can turn around and announce that the Bears are coming back as team 18, 19 or 20 and that they’ll be allowing them to hold onto the North Shore as part of their new arrangement.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Keeping Northern Sydney engaged with the game is more important than the Central Coast.

A Sea Eagles team that covers and controls both the Northern Beaches and North Shore has the potential to be a powerhouse. The two regions together are huge in terms of area and potential. A combined population of around ~730k+ is a healthy base to work with.

Nobody engages with the North Shore because the NRL are still sitting on their hands when it comes to making a decision on the Bears. It’s 2024 and we still don’t know if they’re coming back or not. And if they are, in what capacity.

No team is going to invest anything into the North Shore when the NRL can turn around and announce that the Bears are coming back as team 18, 19 or 20 and that they’ll be allowing them to hold onto the North Shore as part of their new arrangement.

Wouldn't it make more sense to hand the North Shore over to Sydney Roosters?

 

[reanimate]

Wouldn't it make more sense to hand the North Shore over to Sydney Roosters?

In terms of natural synergy, no. The two regions border each other. You can go from being in Seaforth to being in Mosman in seconds. From being in Forestville to being in Roseville in a few minutes etc.

That’s why the North Shore junior teams have been playing in comps with Manly juniors for years, it makes sense from a geography and convenience perspective.

In terms of old Bears fans and their hatred of Manly, maybe it would be more palatable for them to have the Roosters take over the area. There’s fewer and fewer of them every year that goes by, any decision made shouldn’t be based around them. The Roosters having control of the area would be a big improvement on the status quo though.

 

[blue bags]

We need the north shore. Northern beaches
Central coast. Newcastle areas to be booming
Regarding the juniors
Without junior players we will find it hard for growing the NRL
Junior's are the priority
In regards to other sports

 

[docbrown]

Keeping Northern Sydney engaged with the game is more important than the Central Coast.

A Sea Eagles team that covers and controls both the Northern Beaches and North Shore has the potential to be a powerhouse. The two regions together are huge in terms of area and potential. A combined population of around ~730k+ is a healthy base to work with.

Nobody engages with the North Shore because the NRL are still sitting on their hands when it comes to making a decision on the Bears. It’s 2024 and we still don’t know if they’re coming back or not. And if they are, in what capacity.

No team is going to invest anything into the North Shore when the NRL can turn around and announce that the Bears are coming back as team 18, 19 or 20 and that they’ll be allowing them to hold onto the North Shore as part of their new arrangement.

The Bears won't be based full time on the North Shore in any scenario, so if Manly wants the area they should actually just go for it. No offence, but if they're waiting for the NRL to get their act together, then the Sea Eagles honchos are morons. Just go do it or someone else will.

 

[MugaB]

The Bears won't be based full time on the North Shore in any scenario, so if Manly wants the area they should actually just go for it. No offence, but if they're waiting for the NRL to get their act together, then the Sea Eagles honchos are morons. Just go do it or someone else will.

Cannot the area is bounded to the bears, they use it to feed other clubs in NRL, even if they get a licence for perth, the players will still come from that NS region

 

[reanimate]

The Bears won't be based full time on the North Shore in any scenario, so if Manly wants the area they should actually just go for it. No offence, but if they're waiting for the NRL to get their act together, then the Sea Eagles honchos are morons. Just go do it or someone else will.

But they still may hold official claims on the area and junior leagues, put their junior rep teams through the area etc.

Teams aren’t going to go and invest in an area when that investment is going to directly benefit an NRL rival. That’s why no one has done it, there is no someone else until the NRL clarifies what is happening with the Bears.

 

[docbrown]

Cannot the area is bounded to the bears, they use it to feed other clubs in NRL, even if they get a licence for perth, the players will still come from that NS region

when that investment is going to directly benefit an NRL rival.

They're not an NRL rival though. They're a NSWRL rival. If the Bears had any real strength to do anything then they'd be in the NRL already. They don't. The Bears may never get a franchise. And if Manly's plan is to do nothing because it's all too hard then they'll watch as clubs like the Eels and Panthers turn into powerhouses and they'll get left behind. I mean, how many schools do the Sea Eagles players visit regularly on the North Shore/North Sydney? What are the Bears go to do? Growl? So what? It's such a strange argument.

 

[Chins get the wins]

Keeping Northern Sydney engaged with the game is more important than the Central Coast.

A Sea Eagles team that covers and controls both the Northern Beaches and North Shore has the potential to be a powerhouse. The two regions together are huge in terms of area and potential. A combined population of around ~730k+ is a healthy base to work with.

Nobody engages with the North Shore because the NRL are still sitting on their hands when it comes to making a decision on the Bears. It’s 2024 and we still don’t know if they’re coming back or not. And if they are, in what capacity.

No team is going to invest anything into the North Shore when the NRL can turn around and announce that the Bears are coming back as team 18, 19 or 20 and that they’ll be allowing them to hold onto the North Shore as part of their new arrangement.

Asian kids generally aren't built for footy

 

[Bukowski]

Cannot the area is bounded to the bears, they use it to feed other clubs in NRL, even if they get a licence for perth, the players will still come from that NS region

Their NSW Cup team is in blacktown though. Can't see why they couldnt invest in norths territory

 

[reanimate]

They're not an NRL rival though. They're a NSWRL rival. If the Bears had any real strength to do anything then they'd be in the NRL already. They don't. The Bears may never get a franchise. And if Manly's plan is to do nothing because it's all too hard then they'll watch as clubs like the Eels and Panthers turn into powerhouses and they'll get left behind. I mean, how many schools do the Sea Eagles players visit regularly on the North Shore/North Sydney? What are the Bears go to do? Growl? So what? It's such a strange argument.

They’re an NSWRL entity with official claims on the area that partners with rival NRL clubs.

Manly tried sending players and staff to rep clinics, schools etc in the 2010s and got met with howls of protest from the Bears and no support from the NRL. At the time, the NRL was in the will-they-won’t-they stage in regard to whether the CC Bears would be brought in at some stage in the 2010s- their lack of support and behaviour gave the appearance that the Bears bid was a chance of becoming reality at some stage.

We now know it didn’t happen, but we’re stuck in the same cycle again. Manly could try investing in the area, despite the Bears making it clear that they don’t want anything to do with Manly and be met with an NRL decision in a few years time that the Bears are coming back and that they’ll be allowing them to retain the NS. Based on the media and V’landys’ comments, it appears it could happen, why would any other team invest in the Bears’ territory when that’s the current environment?