NRL Draft back on the agenda

[flippikat]

Nailed it right here,

Even if you go to Rugby or ESL for a season, The player then has choice of where to play.

Doesn't work in Rugby codes for this reason

The danger is that a draft *could* drive our best talent to Superleague, or worse - rugby union.

With Super Rugby Pacific looking for talent to bolster woeful Aussie teams, it'd be like Christmas for them.

 

[Iamback]

The danger is that a draft *could* drive our best talent to Superleague, or worse - rugby union.

With Super Rugby Pacific looking for talent to bolster woeful Aussie teams, it'd be like Christmas for them.

The key is get more quality kids in the system, Not move what limited ones we have around

 

[MugaB]

The key is get more quality kids in the system, Not move what limited ones we have around

Who the fk is asking for a draft anyway... where has this idea seem to come from as of late, weve had rugby league since 1908, and only once in the 90s was it ever a thing till it got shot down in court.. now its a thing? Why coz it works in AFL... they have no choice BUT to draft, they aren't getting the talent in the areas they want, and don't have the access of talent from overseas, like league has in both pacific and europe... we don't need a draft... just need the salary cap to not go up so much, the top tier talent moves around if they all can't fit into one club... i heard the salary cap is rising, it should be decreasing in my view... to have a handful of super stacked teams verses another 10-12 mediocre teams isn't good, and raising the salary cap just enforces that, and inflates players income how might be worth that amount. Fancy being josh reynolds at the tigers getting paid overs to sit on a bench fmd

 

[Iamback]

Who the fk is asking for a draft anyway... where has this idea seem to come from as of late, weve had rugby league since 1908, and only once in the 90s was it ever a thing till it got shot down in court.. now its a thing? Why coz it works in AFL... they have no choice BUT to draft, they aren't getting the talent in the areas they want, and don't have the access of talent from overseas, like league has in both pacific and europe... we don't need a draft... just need the salary cap to not go up so much, the top tier talent moves around if they all can't fit into one club... i heard the salary cap is rising, it should be decreasing in my view... to have a handful of super stacked teams verses another 10-12 mediocre teams isn't good, and raising the salary cap just enforces that, and inflates players income how might be worth that amount. Fancy being josh reynolds at the tigers getting paid overs to sit on a bench fmd

We won every comp

Teams like Manly are imploding... Hey the draft will fix it

 

[jk13]

if the salary cap is never going to be fully transparent, then give me the draft. drafts just add an extra dimension.

 

[Tweed Titan]

They wouldn’t and no club will. That’s the point of a draft. An overall body, not the clubs, would have to look after player development.

My biggest gripe is that a draft would have to be the tanking thing. If somebody could come up with a draft order that is not just based on ladder position than it might be worthwhile.

Lol it already exists. It's called a draft lottery. Google it.

Drafts not only improve parity but also provide another element of entertainment for the league to market on draft lottery and draft day.

 

[Smug Panther]

Lol it already exists. It's called a draft lottery. Google it

And the best young talent in the game is drafted to the Gold Coast Titans....."no thanks I'll go to Europe or Japan for a few years"

 

[Tweed Titan]

And the best young talent in the game is drafted to the Gold Coast Titans....."no thanks I'll go to Europe or Japan for a few years"

We've recently signed up Keebra Park, PBC and other local elite pathway schools in our junior Titans systems (JTS) now so it's all good here.

The Titans will soon be one of the teams most disadvantaged by a draft system (like Penrith) but way to show you've got no idea what you're talking about.

Keep riding that horse called self-interest though.

 

[Smug Panther]

We've recently signed up Keebra Park, PBC and other local elite pathway schools in our junior Titans systems (JTS) now so it's all good here.

The Titans will soon be one of the teams most disadvantaged by a draft system (like Penrith) but way to show you've got no idea what you're talking about.

Keep riding that horse called self-interest though.

It's not self interest. Would you really trust the NRL with junior development?

The Tits dig was low and could have been at a few other sides. A draft can't work in a comp where players have options to earn as much or more elsewhere.

Cap concessions for junior development is the way forward.

 

[Colk]

It's not self interest. Would you really trust the NRL with junior development?

The Tits dig was low and could have been at a few other sides. A draft can't work in a comp where players have options to earn as much or more elsewhere.

Cap concessions for junior development is the way forward.

That doesn’t touch at all the biggest problem with the current system: transparency.

If you have the current system you are always going to have this problem of whether or not a team is cheating or not - the only times teams have been caught is via inside information rather than from the NRL themselves.

The other issues is where do the concessions begin. For example, if a club purchased a player from another team before they start first grade are they classed as a junior for the purposes of these concessions?

Secondly, what about those teams that are just lucky to be smack bang in a massive junior area with the money to fund it? What about areas that have large junior areas like Newcastle or GC and historically have been financial basket cases?

Lastly, and most importantly, how does this work in with expansion? If you go to an area which is a large non league area like Perth which is the commercially right thing to do, how would this work? By this decision, you are essentially limiting the game to forever be a game only in NSW, QLD and NZ.

You’re right though in your second paragraph which is the biggest problem with the draft. Unlike fumbleball, our players have opportunities elsewhere

 

[Colk]

Lol it already exists. It's called a draft lottery. Google it.

Drafts not only improve parity but also provide another element of entertainment for the league to market on draft lottery and draft day.

That’s not a great model but fair enough. How do you deal with the biggest problem though. Players can choose to play Union here or overseas or go to Super League. There are other options available to players.

 

[MugaB]

That’s not a great model but fair enough. How do you deal with the biggest problem though. Players can choose to play Union here or overseas or go to Super League. There are other options available to players.

The best Model, is none at all, if you cant offer your junior league players the best opportunity at raking it in at NRL level at your club, you deserve to lose them elsewhere, the league shouldn't intervien... and you probably dont deserve an NRL licence... if the commision want to even out the talent, then lower the salary cap.. end of

This whole notion that every team has to have a marquee man is BS, this whole concept of a draft is childish, and will only help the shit run clubs remain shit run clubs, run your clubs better, invest in jnr participation, build your own COE or lobby for one, get shit done yourself and reap the rewards later, this draft system is just another handout for those who don't put the effort in

For the penrith fans or any other development club fans ... you cant keep them all so it benefits the whole league, and you become indispensable, for the clubs that just poach. and rely on the open market... suck eggs coz you could be dictating terms on contracrs instead of picking on these development clubs scraps..
I say keep raising the salary cap PVL.. let these clubs sort out their pathways proper and their own fron office

 

[Colk]

The best Model, is none at all, if you cant offer your junior league players the best opportunity at raking in, the league shouldn't intervien... and you probably dont deserve an NRL licence... if the commision want to even out the talent, then lower the salary cap.. end of

This whole notion that every team has to have a marquee man is BS, this whole concept of a draft is childish, and will only help the shit run clubs remain shit run clubs, run your clubs better, invest in jnr participation, buold your own COE or lobby for one, get shit done yourself and reap the rewards later, this draft system is just another handout for those who don't put the effort in

For the penrith fans or any other development club fans ... you cant keep them all so it benefits the whole league, and you become indispensable, for the clubs that just poach. and rely on the open market... suck eggs coz you could be dictating terms on contracrs instead of picking on these development clubs scraps..
I say keep raising the salary cap PVL.. let these clubs sort out their pathways proper and their own fron office

I wouldn’t worry mate. A draft wouldn’t likely work in League anyway because talent would just choose to play union if it came in; at least the talent we want to keep in the game

 

[MugaB]

I wouldn’t worry mate. A draft wouldn’t likely work in League anyway because talent would just choose to play union if it came in; at least the talent we want to keep in the game

Im not worried... just annoyed that peoole think coz AFL do it that it works? Really

 

[Smug Panther]

The best Model, is none at all, if you cant offer your junior league players the best opportunity at raking it in at NRL level at your club, you deserve to lose them elsewhere, the league shouldn't intervien... and you probably dont deserve an NRL licence... if the commision want to even out the talent, then lower the salary cap.. end of

This whole notion that every team has to have a marquee man is BS, this whole concept of a draft is childish, and will only help the shit run clubs remain shit run clubs, run your clubs better, invest in jnr participation, build your own COE or lobby for one, get shit done yourself and reap the rewards later, this draft system is just another handout for those who don't put the effort in

For the penrith fans or any other development club fans ... you cant keep them all so it benefits the whole league, and you become indispensable, for the clubs that just poach. and rely on the open market... suck eggs coz you could be dictating terms on contracrs instead of picking on these development clubs scraps..
I say keep raising the salary cap PVL.. let these clubs sort out their pathways proper and their own fron office

EXACTLY! I openly cry about Burto on these forums and will forever

 

[Iamback]

We've recently signed up Keebra Park, PBC and other local elite pathway schools in our junior Titans systems (JTS) now so it's all good here.

The Titans will soon be one of the teams most disadvantaged by a draft system (like Penrith) but way to show you've got no idea what you're talking about.

Keep riding that horse called self-interest though.

And with the 1st pick of the 2023 Draft the Tigers select Jojo Fifita...

Your fine with that?

 

[MugaB]

And with the 1st pick of the 2023 Draft the Tigers select Jojo Fifita...

Your fine with that?

2023 2nd draft pick.. the Roosters select Nathan Cleary... hehehe

 

[Colk]

Im not worried... just annoyed that peoole think coz AFL do it that it works? Really

The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. Drafts aren’t necessarily a bad idea in isolation but they work in competitions where their talent coming through don’t have options or they get paid ridiculous amounts of money say like NBA or MLB

Also, as I stated earlier the biggest problem is a lack of transparency about the salary cap. Fix that.

 

[Iamback]

It's not self interest. Would you really trust the NRL with junior development?

The Tits dig was low and could have been at a few other sides. A draft can't work in a comp where players have options to earn as much or more elsewhere.

Cap concessions for junior development is the way forward.

Often players choose RL to stay locally it is the biggest drawcard the game has

 

[Perth Red]

Simple cannot work where the jnr development system is controlled by the clubs. A draft would require an entire different structure and responsibility for jnr elite pathways, good luck getting clubs to agree to that or nrl to find the money and competence to take it over!