NRL Expansion. Ideas and opinions.

[Stallion]

Sounds like social touch used to warm up and develop skills. So, not an actual sport then with formal rules and structured competition?

Yes. We used it as a warm up before training.

 

[Vee]

No I'm not! If it stops the repetitive tactic of trying to run defensive players offside then I'm no fan of the current rules in touch football.

Id rather see dummy half skills around the ruck being used to create space, not running people offside.

There you go again, you wanting something doesn't make it right. I've played and reffed Touch for about 25yrs now and have not heard a single person express any desire for the return of the markers. Everybody agrees it's a much better game without them.

But hell, I'm sure you know better with your experience reffing young children on the playground in Tippy League.

 

[Stallion]

There you go again, you wanting something doesn't make it right. I've played and reffed Touch for about 25yrs now and have not heard a single person express any desire for the return of the markers. Everybody agrees it's a much better game without them.

But hell, I'm sure you know better with your experience reffing young children on the playground in Tippy League.

Just on that. Are you are aware their are plenty of rogue touch footy comps out there playing with marker and play the ball rules? I know of one comp that's been going for well over 20 years at Kotara in Newcastle. Very popular and all players are there because they don't like the official touch football rules as they are at this stage.

 

[Vee]

I'm aware of Oztag and there is provision in the Touch rule book for what are referred to as Park Rules, those used by local associations within the framework of Touch.

Whether what you are referring to fits in there, I couldn't say. The proof would be in their affiliation with parent bodies. Regardless, the NRL'S most important affiliation by far is with TFA.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

NRL would have been better spending its money doing this than giving touch millions of $'s just to have brand connection. End of day touch players are t likleymto watch nrl just because their footy has a nrl badge on it. Getting every pri sry school in the country playing leaguetag however would be massive for the sport. Link the clubs into it with some major nrl investment and we are going somewhere.

I always thought the touch move was about player numbers for getting Government funding. It should be one of our most potent vehicles in schools and with women.

 

[Stallion]

Absolutely. However it seems nothing is being done in that regard? The same for league tag which is closer to rugby league than touch football is these days.

 

[Stallion]

I'm aware of Oztag and there is provision in the Touch rule book for what are referred to as Park Rules, those used by local associations within the framework of Touch.

Whether what you are referring to fits in there, I couldn't say. The proof would be in their affiliation with parent bodies. Regardless, the NRL'S most important affiliation by far is with TFA.

If park rules allow play the ball with the foot and a marker then 'park rules ' is the key. If this can be incorporated into regular touch football comps then this would be a significant step forward for all concerned.

 

[T-Boon]

Am I right in saying Touch Football wants to avoid too close of an association with the NRL because they feel like that would slow their growth?

 

[Stallion]

Am I right in saying Touch Football wants to avoid too close of an association with the NRL because they feel like that would slow their growth?

Possibly. Rugby league really neglected touch footy in 1996. Touch actually approached the ARL at that time to affiliate and the ARL in their wisdom knocked them back!

 

[Vee]

If park rules allow play the ball with the foot and a marker then 'park rules ' is the key. If this can be incorporated inti regular touch football comps then this would be a significant step forward for all concerned.

Take it up with TFA.

 

[Perth Red]

Am I right in saying Touch Football wants to avoid too close of an association with the NRL because they feel like that would slow their growth?

We certainly don't seem to gain much from the millions the nrl,is giving touch to be associated with it? I'm struggling to see what tangible benefits there are tbh. Someone mentioned govt grants due to inc touch numbers which may be one?

 

[Vee]

We certainly don't seem to gain much from the millions the nrl,is giving touch to be associated with it? I'm struggling to see what tangible benefits there are tbh. Someone mentioned govt grants due to inc touch numbers which may be one?

I spoke to NQTA supremo a couple of years ago and he detailed a cradle-to-grave strategy that came from the ARLC/NRL. Kids start with touch learning to pass, catch etc, parents can play with kids in the same team. Kids go on to play RL, learning to tackle etc, play until they retire then return to touch as they bring their own kids through. One of the key features of Touch is mixed teams, can’t think of another major sport that offers this, and that is an excellent option for female and family friendly inclusion.

Iirc, this was in Dave smith’s time, sounded pretty good at the time but haven’t seen much progress since then.

 

[Stallion]

I spoke to NQTA supremo a couple of years ago and he detailed a cradle-to-grave strategy that came from the ARLC/NRL. Kids start with touch learning to pass, catch etc, parents can play with kids in the same team. Kids go on to play RL, learning to tackle etc, play until they retire then return to touch as they bring their own kids through. One of the key features of Touch is mixed teams, can’t think of another major sport that offers this, and that is an excellent option for female and family friendly inclusion.

Iirc, this was in Dave smith’s time, sounded pretty good at the time but haven’t seen much progress since then.

Yes. For the life of me I cannot believe that the development people havent initiated / established a PSSA path for primary school kids. Even for Leaguetag which is actually closer to RL rules these days. Amazing lack of initiative and proactiveness from those responsible for development.

 

[T-Boon]

One of the key features of Touch is mixed teams, can’t think of another major sport that offers this, and that is an excellent option for female and family friendly inclusion.

Imagine a short televised NRL pre season touch competition where NRL stars and the best touch footy stars (men & women) played against one another.
If there was a draft who would be the number 1 pick (i.e: who is the best touch footy player in the country?)
I am going to suggest Dylan Hennessy to the Knights with the number 1 overall pick.

 

[siv]

I vote for a QRL v NSW premiers superbowl

 

[Stormwarrior82]

I spoke to NQTA supremo a couple of years ago and he detailed a cradle-to-grave strategy that came from the ARLC/NRL. Kids start with touch learning to pass, catch etc, parents can play with kids in the same team. Kids go on to play RL, learning to tackle etc, play until they retire then return to touch as they bring their own kids through. One of the key features of Touch is mixed teams, can’t think of another major sport that offers this, and that is an excellent option for female and family friendly inclusion.

Iirc, this was in Dave smith’s time, sounded pretty good at the time but haven’t seen much progress since then.

I had heard of this. Let’s hope that this grows some legs this time around and gets highlighted in the off-season review.

Having a mixed touch comp would be massive.

 

[siv]

The other thing we should setup

Online game play

The biggest threat to RL is online gaming for the younger generation

I see my son sit down and watch online 100,000 people sit in a stadium watching gamers play

 

[RL The greatest game]

I can't help but believe that Rugby League in the NH will overtake us down here unless we get serious about expansion in the not too distance future.
Toronto Wolfpack owner Eric Perez plans to launch two more American sides - BBC Sport

 

[Stallion]

I can't help but believe that Rugby League in the NH will overtake us down here unless we get serious about expansion in the not too distance future.
Toronto Wolfpack owner Eric Perez plans to launch two more American sides - BBC Sport

Its a good incentive for the game to genuinely expand and not weaken itself at the same time. Additional clubs are necessary and it sends out a positive message to all including juniors and fans.

 

[Perth Red]

I'll believe that when I see it! Rl in the NH is littered with failed expansion attempts. I hope it does this time though, a true world club playoff between top Nh and Sh clubs would be massive. 20 team comps in both parts of world 19 game seasons with a 8 world club champions league in sept/oct. we can but dream!