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NRL faces major turmoil as clubs threaten breakaway league

adamkungl

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There's a lot to sort through here.

I feel like funding disagreements are expected and could be resolved if both sides were willing to compromise, but the spanner in the works is the power plays the clubs are trying to make.

Obviously they feel like they should have more of a say on the commission itself. In their view, the 'Independent' in Independent Commission means from News/outside corporate interests, not independent from the game itself.

I would lean towards agreeing with them that they should have some say on the commission. The core of my view is the clubs are more important to the game than the NRL admin are. In order of importance
1) The sport itself. Without this there is nothing, obviously.
2) The clubs and players. They bring in the fans and money.
3) The administration. It is their job to ensure 1 and 2 are healthy.

As for funding, the best we have to go on is the NRLs 2015 annual report.
They had an $18 mil loss and are projecting losses for 2 more years despite record revenue.

I can't say if he speaks for the clubs position as a whole, but Gould claims they are not seeking a larger slice of the pie but are alarmed at the administrative wastage that has allowed the NRL to suffer losses despite making more money than ever. Of course, this is ignoring the fact that a reason for this is due to Newcastle, Gold Coast, St George and Wests all requiring unexpected financial assistance from the NRL. The clubs are unwilling to invest in an insurance fund.

The basic funding breakdown is:
204mil broadcast revenue
129mil non-broadcast revenue
334mil total
-128mil NRL spending
=206mil available for Clubs, States, Development (grassroots)
-162mil clubs
-28mil states
-27mil development/grassroots
The money given out to clubs, states, and grassroots in 2015 exceeded the available revenue by $12mil.
Taking into account the Knights Titans and Affiliated states ownerships this becomes $18mil.
Look up the annual report for the finer details of it if you're interested.


So the picture the NRL seems to be painting by the way it structures this report is that the game should be funded by the broadcast revenue, and the administration funded by the non-broadcast revenue. This way, the losses can be put down to NRL giving the game more than their fair share.
Obviously the clubs disagree with this split, and see the NRL as wasting a significant chunk of the $128mil they spent in administrative costs.
The split is fairly arbitrary to me, I'm no expert obviously but you could just as easily argue that 'Development' should come under the NRLs expenditure rather than being grouped with the clubs funding.
Then you can point to something like the bunker as a colossal waste of money.


Breaking down further, the clubs receive 162mil (126 participation grant 36 'other' ???) of 334mil total revenue. (48%). Not sure what 'other' covers but it is a significant chunk which rose by $11mil from 2014-15.

The participation grant is $7.8mil each, which is
2.3% of the total revenue
119% of the salary cap ($6.55mil)

The NRL spends almost as much on itself ($128 mil) as it gives all 16 clubs combined.
The "Administration costs" alone are $23mil which is in the range of what it costs to run an NRL team.


What conclusions can be drawn from any of this?
For everyone criticising the clubs, I personally would find it difficult to say they are not more deserving of a large chunk of the money than the NRL administration.
The clubs position, I think, is that money to fund them and the grassroots should come at the cost of the NRLs 'slice', I do not believe they want to take money away from grassroots, rather the opposite.

For 130% of salary cap the total participation grant would increase by$20-30mil a year depending on the cap.
The broadcast revenue is set to be somewhere in the range of 360mil a year.
Allocating to the clubs $160mil participation grant would leave 200mil.
If the states and grassroots received double what they do now that would still leave around 90mil for the NRL to piss away, NOT INCLUDING the growing non-broadcast revenue which currently stands at $129mil.

Are the NRL planning to spend close to $100mil MORE than their current running costs of $128 mil?? If this is the case then I fully support the clubs position.
Blaming 'poor performing clubs' is not sensible. If they received what they ask, and given the above I'm not sure how you can say they shouldn't, they wouldn't be poorly performing.
 
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Caped Crusader

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Excellent post Adam

It's easy to point the finger at poor performing clubs but the $ being brought in v the extra money spent is quite a low percentage

The clubs are right to question where all the money is going
 
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Grant should go, but not because he identified Fafita as a liability and not because he represented Australia in England at the Four Nations and RLIF meetings. Not even because the clubs are squealing. But because he is not providing the direction and action required for the growth and development of the whole sport. And that's his job.
 

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Can someone explain what the costs to the NRL will be with "maintaining the games digital arm"?

This is a reason for Grant's backflip right?
 

adamkungl

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Can someone explain what the costs to the NRL will be with "maintaining the games digital arm"?

This is a reason for Grant's backflip right?

Maybe they want to develop an streaming app that isn't completely shithouse. Why that should effect club funding in any significant way is beyond me though.
 

Cumberland Throw

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Isnt the point of an independent commission is to be independent from the clubs ??

Classic power play from pissed off chairman, who are seeing their relevance shrinking...

What is wrong with Grant and ARLC wanting to save money for grassroots, ?

ARLC know an increased grant just leads to higher player salaries, in a closed economy... which basically gives game no benefit.. kaylyn ponga getting 900k a season instead of 700k ... doesnt help RL..

And thats all that will happen with a huge grant increase, clubs will just bid up more against each other trying to buy a premiership, with no regard for health of game in 50 years...
 

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Can someone explain what the costs to the NRL will be with "maintaining the games digital arm"?

This is a reason for Grant's backflip right?
From 2018 they are taking their websites back from Telstra so they will control ad revenue, of which clubs were to receive equal share. That means they will be solely responsible for providing content to drive web traffic, I think the digital strategy will mirror somewhat what the AFL have with their inhouse media unit.
 

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The most telling thing out of this whole ordeal for me was that Grant was apparently 'blindsided' by the clubs level of discontent, something that has been public knowledge and widely reported in the media for at least the last 6 months, and he naively waltzes into what was reported as a decisive & potentially explosive club funding meeting to declare the negotiations will cease and the deal was now off the table. Out of touch doesn't begin to describe it. It's a special kind of ignorance.
 
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The most telling thing out of this whole ordeal for me was that Grant was apparently 'blindsided' by the clubs level of discontent, something that has been public knowledge and widely reported in the media for at least the last 6 months, and he naively waltzes into what was reported as a decisive & potentially explosive club funding meeting to declare the negotiations will cease and the deal was now off the table. Out of touch doesn't begin to describe it. It's a special kind of ignorance.

You could also add in that Grant went out to his press conference yesterday yet no one apparently on the NRL staff had bothered to tell him that they HAD received the much discussed letter from the NRL clubs citing no confidence in him. Both the Sydney Morning Herald and The Telegraph have reported that it was received via e-mail and acknowledgement sent to its receipt 30 minutes before Grant held his press conference.

That in a micosm sums up some of the problems with the game/s administrators. In my profession if that had happened, someone would be without a job letting my boss do that.
 

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You could also add in that Grant went out to his press conference yesterday yet no one apparently on the NRL staff had bothered to tell him that they HAD received the much discussed letter from the NRL clubs citing no confidence in him. Both the Sydney Morning Herald and The Telegraph have reported that it was received via e-mail and acknowledgement sent to its receipt 30 minutes before Grant held his press conference.

That in a micosm sums up some of the problems with the game/s administrators. In my profession if that had happened, someone would be without a job letting my boss do that.
I don't believe that wasn't deliberate. It gave him plausible deniability, allowed him to avoid answering some difficult questions & bide him some time.
 

El Diablo

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And that's why they employed Dave Smith....A highly regarded international banker....yet he didn't know the Aussie captains name so the clubs and news ltd ran him out of town.

Will this game always be stuffed?
no

he f**ked up the TV deal even though nobody had first and last rights options

he should never have got the gig
 

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Should look into getting Gillon McLachlan... Done wonders for the AFL after the debacle of Andrew Demetriou
Please!

He may get away with things in Melbourne where the media are sycophants and treat the afl with kid gloves but in Sydney the toff wouldn't last a month, I will never forget the interview he gave with that parrot Alan Jones, he couldn't handle it so he said he was 'on the car phone and would be happy to explain things better some other time'... you could hear him crapping himself over the phone.
 

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How much of the 2018-2022 have the NRL spent/will spend before 2018? Didn't they get a significant advance. I thought the commission got an easy ride when te financials came out and showed a massive loss after the previous years massive surplus, was surprised the clubs and media weren't gunning for them then.

Good financial summary of the annual report figures Adam, some of the extra grant would be the one off payments and $1.5mill a year funding extras they got maybe?
 
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