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NRL faces major turmoil as clubs threaten breakaway league

El Diablo

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for once Kent makes sense http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...t/news-story/71508ffec48f15bafaeb19e1777895b3

Why all 16 NRL clubs turned on ARL Commission and John Grant
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PAUL KENT, The Daily Telegraph
November 25, 2016 4:00pm

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HIDDEN deep within the angry fallout between the NRL and its clubs was a genuine fear the Commission could send the game broke.

It seems ludicrous given the new broadcast deal about to begin, but the clubs have worried privately for some time now as D-Day approached.

And approached ... given the seemingly eternal delay it took to finally get around the table.

The NRL and clubs entered into a Memorandum of Understanding earlier this year, where the game agreed to pay the club grants at 130 per cent of the whatever the salary cap would be.

Most believed it would be an extra $3 million on top of a $10 million salary cap.

But the NRL became the victims of not knowing its business, which has happened more than once since the Commission came into being.

As the backdrop to all this, let’s remember that some years back when the ARL Commission rode into town on the back of the current television deal, then NRL boss Dave Smith promised the game would bank $50 million a year for a nice little war chest.

Finally, the game was getting itself into the financial position most believe it should be in.

Unfortunately, since then nothing like an annual $50 million has been banked.

So the clubs were privately fearing that with the game already showing it was incapable of banking anything like $50 million a year, the game would send itself broke by stumping up an an extra $48 million for clubs (the 16 clubs each getting the $3 million above the salary cap).

The clubs were wondering how the NRL was going to do it.

Well, on Wednesday they got their answer.

Given the MOU was expired the NRL felt the deal was invalid and free to be renegotiated, so the deal was off the table.

It prompted four chairmen — Laurence Lancini (North Queensland), Ray Dib (Canterbury), Damien Keogh (Cronulla) and Bart Campbell (Melbourne) — to walk out after just 15 minutes.

Roosters chairman Nick Politis was away, but fully supported the walkout.

The club bosses are concerned about the way the game is being financially managed at a time the game has never been more prosperous.

They also object to the NRL’s proposal that clubs should be collectively forced to bail out a club if it gets into financial trouble.

While it works in theory, they know it would never work in practice.

Clubs would simply gamble, driven by the knowledge that other clubs would be forced to make up any shortfalls if their reckless spending did not succeed.

It could be absolutely disastrous.

So where to?

The game is in crisis for this very reason.

The clubs have no faith in the Commission chairman to run the business properly. Hundreds of millions more have been invested into the game and there is no discernible difference from when David Gallop ran the game with a secretary, three staff and an old typewriter.

In comparison, the AFL Commission has expanded its game in to every state, bought Docklands Stadium as a wise investment and have put in place a future funds that protects the weaker clubs without punishing the richer clubs.

The NRL is trying to enforce a socialist system.

The clubs worry the Commission do not have enough rugby league IQ to properly identify where and how the money should be correctly spent.

In lieu, they take a pin the tail on the donkey approach.

Much is swallowed in misinformation, though.

A good example is the new broadcast deal.

While many celebrated it, wooed by all those zeroes, and the NRL spin went into overtime, the

new deal came up about $300 million short of what it should have been because the NRL bungled the negotiations.

But we must be careful to not let the clubs get their way, either.

The moment the clubs get a toehold on power within the Commission the game could, and probably would, quickly descend back to the old days where a power base of clubs dictated to the game at the disadvantage of other clubs.

It’s what actually kickstarted the Super League war.

Thankfully, some clubs have recognised this and declared they won’t support it.

So what to do?

The Commission was formed with very strict criteria to dilute the clubs’ power over the game at Commission level.

It worked and was necessary, but it also had the effect of ruling out many good honest and qualified candidates, revealing now how skinny the field was we were left with.

It is time for a grown up approach with personal and club agendas to be put aside for the future of the game.

The tough part of that is it is something the game has always struggled to do.
 

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Yeh f**k the full commission of experienced business people, a very well paid CEO, a massiv esnr managenet structure and 12 months to sort out a pretty straight forward strategy on future spending. What we need is to spend is another $200k on getting someone else to tell us what to do now we've faked it up.
A lawyer needs to draft a revised constitution to reflect proposed changes negotiated between stakeholders.
 

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NRL must have had rocks in its head to offer a grant increase from $7.5mill to 130% + $1.5mill. That could effectively mean a grant of around $14.5mill per club or a total of $242 mill for 2018 with possible increases during the following 4 years.
Source: http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=2001

Given the new tv deal will be worth around $360mill a year that is a massive % of the deal to clubs. I wonder if Greenberg didn't have his calculator handy when he put the mou together?
 

BuffaloRules

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Kent is correct- the TV deal was stuffed up by Smith and Grant and is definitely a couple of hundred mil short...

Smith also squandered a lot of money expanding the size of the NRL administration and didn't deliver on the promised dollars for the "future fund".

Honestly don't get the love for Smith..
 

AJB1102

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So it sounds like the ARLC over-committed (from Kent's article posted by El Diablo it sounds like the Clubs themselves thought this too which is staggering if true) and then when they figured out their error waited for the MoU to expire expecting everyone to just go back to the drawing board no hassles.

Just an unprofessional shambles.
 

Last Week

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It's worth noting that the NSWRL board (who voted to oust Grant) is selected by the NSW clubs.

The NSWRL will do what ever the NSW clubs want them to.

f**k the clubs.
 

NrlVader

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John Grant and Todd Greenberg went on a month long junket to follow the tour.

All the work they did during that time was to tell A Fifita to grow up.

$20,000 later they wrapped up the J Hayne investigation with a finding for J Hayne to stay away from bikies.

Out of their depths these two stooges.

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AJB1102

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It's worth noting that the NSWRL board (who voted to oust Grant) is selected by the NSW clubs.

The NSWRL will do what ever the NSW clubs want them to.

f**k the clubs.

I understand the "f**k the clubs" sentiment but they're always gonna be looking out for themselves and their interests. Thats an absolute given - always has been, always will be. But at least they know what their interests and priorities are and no matter how greedy and self-interested it is they are showing some leadership. The ARLC seem completely devoid of a plan or leadership in any fashion.
 

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I understand the "f**k the clubs" sentiment but they're always gonna be looking out for themselves and their interests. Thats an absolute given - always has been, always will be. But at least they know what their interests and priorities are and no matter how greedy and self-interested it is they are showing some leadership. The ARLC seem completely devoid of a plan or leadership in any fashion.

Perhaps. But removing Grant isn't going to change that necessarily. He is just one commissioner.

And the clubs can look out for themselves all they want. But manipulating the democratic process that the ARLC is is just wrong.

NRL clubs shouldn't have a say in the control of the NSWRL or QRL boards. It defeats the purpose of the state leagues having their own vote.
 

AJB1102

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Perhaps. But removing Grant isn't going to change that necessarily. He is just one commissioner.

And the clubs can look out for themselves all they want. But manipulating the democratic process that the ARLC is is just wrong.

NRL clubs shouldn't have a say in the control of the NSWRL or QRL boards. It defeats the purpose of the state leagues having their own vote.

Well he is just one commissioner but he's the top commissioner. I was surprised when I read he'd been in the job 5yrs already and I'm still trying to figure out what he's actually done. Something we can directly pin on Grant's vision or leadership that gives him any sort of 'can do' credit.

Of course replacing him might not change a thing. But it might.

I don't think they're manipulating any process just going down the only road really left. Besides if 15 of 16 Clubs think enough is enough then that should probably be enough without the NSWRL or QRL boards TBH. Whether the Clubs have sway on how those 2 vote when all bar one (NRL owned & run) Club are in agreement I don't see the fuss.

I agree with your last point. Maybe a loophole there. Maybe a better run ARLC could clear that up. Or just do a good job and instill confidence on the back of that and none of this is an issue. Seriously to piss off every Club at once is a fair effort of a f**k up.
 

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The NRL needs it's own network so to bypass Foxsports.

NFL Gamepass,Netflix,NRLGamePass (if it's called that) is all I need to quench my TV viewing.

NFL gamepass is utterly useless for people who live in the US due to their TV rights agreements that block all in market games from being shown live.

The NFL would have to cut its salary cap in half or worse without the money it gets from ESPN and the other networks.
 

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...n/news-story/37677627beb3c570415755a127dd3317

NRL clubs may boycott meeting with ARL Commission

  • The Australian
  • 12:00AM November 26, 2016
  • Brent Read
NRL clubs may boycott a proposed meeting next week with the ARL Commission and are ready to pursue legal action against the game’s governing body as they look to secure the scalp of chairman John Grant and force them to honour their previous agreement on future funding.

It is understood the clubs have begun taking legal advice on whether the commission was within its rights to withdraw the previous agreement, a decision that has created some of the deepest fissures in the game’s history.

Grant has been in the crosshairs, with the clubs yesterday signing a letter that was sent to the eight members of the commission calling for the chairman to stand down — the NRL-owned Gold Coast and the Queensland Rugby League declined to endorse his axing.

The letter also called on the commission to honour the memorandum of understanding signed late last year and make changes to the constitution that would result in the states losing their right of veto — again, the QRL abstained — but receiving a seat on the commission as compensation.

The clubs also want two seats on the commission, which would mean only five members of the commission remained independent. The letter was sent to the commission less than an hour before Grant fronted the media to insist he would not be resigning.

Instead, Grant confidently suggested he would remain involved for another five years and announced Australian Olympic Committee president John Coates had been hired to undertake an independent review of the constitution.

In a later interview with The Weekend Australian, Grant urged the clubs to attend next week’s meeting and revealed he had sent the chairmen a letter in which he acknowledged the message had been poorly delivered at the meeting which prompted the breakdown in the relationship between the clubs, states and Rugby League Central.

“When we finished the meeting last Wednesday with 14 chairs (12 clubs plus the NSWRL and QRL) there, they said we have to get together soon,” Grant said.

“That’s what we’re doing. There is no doubt we gave them a difficult message not as well as we could have. In my role I have to accept responsibility, which I have done in my letter to them.

“It’s not good for anyone to retire to their quarters. Business won’t work that way. I hope that doesn’t happen. If it does happen, we will deal with it as we have to deal with it. In the clear light of day, I think common sense will prevail. I hope that is the case. If it is not, there is a process under the constitution where the clubs can seek to remove a commissioner.

“I hope they come back to the table because there is an opportunity to do what they wanted to do. I promise to them that we will be completely open, transparent and respectful.”

Under the constitution, the clubs and states can now move to force an extraordinary general meeting and vote on Grant’s position on the commission. That appears the next step given the reaction from clubland yesterday.

It is understood the clubs are seriously considering a boycott of next week’s meeting and are exploring legal avenues after the commission opted to halt negotiations over perpetual licensing agreements. The commission said all previous agreements were off the table and would need to be renegotiated. It is understood the commission endorsed the decision after being briefed by chief executive Todd Greenberg and members of his administration before the meeting.

That decision has also put Greenberg at loggerheads with the clubs — it is understood at the initial meeting he claimed he would “stake his career” on the decision to put talks on the backburner, a move that has been attributed to the need to redirect funds to address digital media concerns and the clubs’ desire to reclaim their intellectual property.

The clubs have also resisted attempts to set up a sinking fund to protect their rivals in times of financial troubles, a move the commission says has forced it to set aside funds for a rainy day.

Whether Grant can survive remains a moot point, with club officials unlikely to be pacified by yesterday’s offer to extend an olive branch. “It's like British prime minister Neville Chamberlain returning from Germany in 1938 and saying there will be peace in our time,” one chairman said.

Coates, meanwhile, has stepped in to help sort out the warring factions by agreeing to undertake a review of the constitution.
 

LeagueXIII

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Why do we need a revised constitution? What we need is a funding strategy.

And that's why they employed Dave Smith....A highly regarded international banker....yet he didn't know the Aussie captains name so the clubs and news ltd ran him out of town.

Will this game always be stuffed?
 

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So where has NRL in theiry committed money

$500k facilities fund
$5 mil NRL grants a year to now go to NSWRL and QRL

130% of Salary Cap. We need to remove U20s from Salary Cap as clubs wont get this grant from NRL anymore

How much are admin costs ?

How much is the annual sinking fund ?

I agree that the other NRL clubs should not prop up poor performing clubs. Especially when we have clubs waiting to join.

Other costs ?
 

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Why do we need a revised constitution? What we need is a funding strategy.
Because that is what is behind the clubs discontent the last 5 years! Club funding is just the latest of many fractures between the commission and clubs/states and it's all rooted in a constitution which gives stakeholders no say in the makeup of the board deciding the games fate. Clubs resent it because they feel the commission is too isolated from the game they are running.
 

NrlVader

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This guy who looks like a drunk on a park bench should resign.

He has no idea about the sport.

Spent a whole month junketing around the UK doing f*ck all other than telling Andrew Fifita to grow up.

We need someone who can command the respect and confidence of the clubs through leadership and guidance for future prosperity of the NRL clubs.

The guy is a joke.
 

AlwaysGreen

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Shame shame shame. Imagine an nrl commissioner accompanying the national team to England.

Shouldn't just be sacked, should be shot.
 
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