NRL faces major turmoil as clubs threaten breakaway league

[RL The greatest game]

End it now.

I'm not wrong though am i when it comes to grass roots funding.

 

[BuffaloRules]

I think we all need the concise, straight to the point analysis of Von Hipper/Poor Boy Blues to take us through today's latest developnents.

 

[BuffaloRules]

I'm not wrong though am i when it comes to grass roots funding.

Dead in 20 years?

What is going to replace it?

 

[El Diablo]

Feel free to verify.

you're the one who has to verify it

 

[El Diablo]

No grass roots = no future.
With the way the clubs are acting and with no business acuman Rugby League will be dead in in this country in 20 years.
The biggest winners oot of todays deal is the aFL who will be laughing their socks off at the lack of money going into grass roots Rugby League.

lol

nutcase

 

[taipan]

There's certainly been give on both sides of the meeting.
The clubs got less than the 130% but not that far off I'm hearing (in my Weidler mode).
The grass roots gets 65% of what ? $100m =$65m pa
The sinking fund out of the NRL not the club kitty.
Once the player payment issue is settled, the salary cap can be implemented.

I would hope the NRL stated we give you an extra say 20% in grants, X proportion of that to be used for grassroots in your area. or toward infrastructure.

 

[El Diablo]

X proportion of that to be used for grassroots in your area

the Roosters don't spend money on juniors

 

[Perth Red]

We know for a fact that the clubs did not want to have a sinking fund to bail out broke clubs because apparently that's the Nrls job. But for some reason they accepted that which already means that have accepted less than 130%, does it not?

To much info is missing for an informed debate on the main issues.

Who knows, it says there will be a bail out fund, not whose paying into it.

As for your comment re the nrl not being committmitted to the $100 mill grass roots increase, suggest you go back to December 2015 and read the nrl's media release where they clearly committed to it.

 

[Perth Red]

There's certainly been give on both sides of the meeting.
The clubs got less than the 130% but not that far off I'm hearing (in my Weidler mode).
The grass roots gets 65% of what ? $100m =$65m pa
The sinking fund out of the NRL not the club kitty.
Once the player payment issue is settled, the salary cap can be implemented.

I would hope the NRL stated we give you an extra say 20% in grants, X proportion of that to be used for grassroots in your area. or toward infrastructure.

It's not 65% of the original budgeted increase
They've said a 65% increase. That means 65% of current funding ie $20million ish

I love how Greenburg dodged the question of what they had actually agreed to. Shame non of the journos asked him the tough question about reduced grass roots funding from original plan, no doubt he would have ducked that by going on about a 65% increase without mentioning amounts.

 

[taipan]

It's more than $20m ish initially.I can't believe it's only an extra 65% of $20m ish.

If the CBA negotiations are not settled upon and won't be till 2017, and you don't know what the salary cap will be at this point, you can't state what monies will be available actually for NRL clubs and grassroots.
We don't know what has been agreed to ,so once again like a true News journo would do( ala Slothfield )you are guessing and putting up figures .None of which are currently verifiable.

If you don't know what you company is going to pay you initially, it's a little harder to allocate savings.

 

[El Diablo]

f**k me i've never seen anyone bitch and moan so much over anything and everything

 

[taipan]

the Roosters don't spend money on juniors

I may be wrong but I thought they put some money into the CC.
If they get a percentage over the salary cap I would stipulate they should .

 

[BuffaloRules]

It's more than $20m ish initially.I can't believe it's only an extra 65% of $20m ish.

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Don't know why you are sceptical about this.

The Development spend in 2015 was $27M.

Say this is raised to $30M by 2017. With the 65% mooted increase this will become a very round $50Mil in 2018....

 

[siv]

So News Ltd is boasting that the clubs will get $1bn over the 5 years from $2bn tv deal

Suggesting that a gradual club grant increase was part of the agreement

Reading between the lines they may have also decoupled the club grants from the salary cap

 

[BuffaloRules]

So News Ltd is boasting that the clubs will get $1bn over the 5 years from $2bn tv deal

Suggesting that a gradual club grant increase was part of the agreement

Reading between the lines they may have also decoupled the club grants from the salary cap

Where have you seen this?

Both the articles I have seen are saying the 130% above salary cap was agreed????

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...urvives-as-arlc-chairman-20161220-gtf5at.html

NRL clubs will receive grants at 130 per cent of the salary cap, but will have to drastically curb football department spending after a day of marathon talks over how the record $1.8 billion broadcast deal spared John Grant's job in the shadows of Christmas.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/jo...n/news-story/8089e4898d24a3c5b7c9c52d00f279ca

FUNDING FARCE IS OVER

- Clubs to receive 130% of the salary cap

- Funding equates to $1 billion over five years

- Chairman John Grant gone by February 2018

- Two club representatives on ARL Commission

- NRL cries poor, saves $60 million in additional funding

- Three months of embarrassment for the game

 

[taipan]

Don't know why you are sceptical about this.

The Development spend in 2015 was $27M.

Say this is raised to $30M by 2017. With the 65% mooted increase this will become a very round $50Mil in 2018....

I'm happy with the increase in fact.I'm responding to the usual put down by the perpetual whining guy ,who lives two hours behind using the West.

 

[Canard]

I see News is hammering the "three months of embarrassment for the game" angle.

Has this issue had any real cut through with the general fandom? I don't really think it has.

 

[Perth Red]

I'm happy with the increase in fact.I'm responding to the usual put down by the perpetual whining guy ,who lives two hours behind using the West.

Clearly they had a plan for grass roots that was going to require an extra $100mill, I suspect a big chunk was going to the revamped second tier comps. That $100mill increase has been reduced to around $20mill. So what happens to the plan?

Glad you're pleased they have stripped $80mill a year out of the grass roots development plan, you'd go well at nrlhq.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Clearly they had a plan for grass roots that was going to require an extra $100mill, I suspect a big chunk was going to the revamped second tier comps. That $100mill increase has been reduced to around $20mill. So what happens to the plan?

Glad you're pleased they have stripped $80mill a year out of the grass roots development plan, you'd go well at nrlhq.

Was it a $100 Mil increase or funding being increased to total of $100Mil?

Just to be clear , I am not in favour of the reduction to the proposed grassroots funding....

As I have said several times, I cant see why out of a minimum annual $500 Mil revenue pool commencing 2018 that you couldn't have $200 Mil to the clubs ( $160Mil of that to the players), $100 MIil Juniors and Regional development ( Inlcuding NZ, PNG and Islands) and the NRL "running" the game on the remaining $200 Mil...

Apparently the NRL needs $250Mil a year to run the game??

 

[LineBall]

I see News is hammering the "three months of embarrassment for the game" angle.

Has this issue had any real cut through with the general fandom? I don't really think it has.

For me it's all been "meh". It's the off season. News Ltd needs to sell papers and they know they won't with Soccer and Cricket.