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[oikee]

I still think 3x30 minute periods is the best idea ever.

It gives the TV guys the extra time.
Fans wont be going home after 2 periods, where if you had 4 25 minutes, fans could be bored, have a sore ass, and if your losing 3 of those 3/4 periods, you would start to see fans walk.

I think even the players would get annoyed having to go out a forth time every game.

Where-as in having 3 periods, the players would not want to lose all 3 periods.

Plus it would be easier to involve bonus points.
Bonus points introduces a whole new excitement to the game, for fans and players.

 

[oikee]

The codes where playing 4 quarters are totally different to the game of rugby league.

AFL has unlimited interchanges.
I was watching the end of that drawn AFL final a few year ago, at the end of the game, all the players looked fresh, like they had not even played in a grand final. ?
Thats because of their unlimited interchange.

Then you have the NFL.
We all know that they stop to take photos, have interviews, check the wheather reports, stop for coffee breaks and even have little johnny do a interview while the players have a time out. ]

So playing 4 quarters in our code would fake up the whole system.

Our game is not designed to be played in 4 quarters.

It is designed to be played in 3x30 minutes.

 

[pHyR3]

Yeah he should change more rules and then see what the vfl is doing for his next idea. Priorities done. f**k growth. That kind of growth isn't real growth anyway right? Twitter numbers is where its really at. Who needs to work on expansion when you can just talk about it and click on NRL.com a thousand times a day instead. Much easier.

Of course if he did move on expansion you'd change the tune. Then it would be an amazing idea and worthy of the top of the priority list.

just cause it's not top priority doesn't mean it's not a good idea that will fuel expansion.

theyre taking their time making sure they get expansion right once, not 10 times like RL has tried to do for 100 years.

And getting it right is a lot more than just picking 2 cities for a team, it's the club structure, grounds, name, junior footy connections, feeder clubs, brand image, gvmt relations, owner etc. etc.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

And how many of those things are underway? Doing nothing is certainly taking the slow approach. About as slow as possible I'd say.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

And how many of those things are underway? Doing nothing is certainly taking the slow approach. About as slow as possible I'd say.

Just because DSmith isnt emailing you a progress report doesnt mean its not happening; this is the entire point of the expansion review.

If theres one thing we've learned in the past few years about how the ARLC operate, its that they dont release plans halfcocked.

 

[Martin Bella's Luvhandles]

Smith shits on Gallop from a great height

On to your head obviously

Shithead

 

[Martin Bella's Luvhandles]

How many 50 x 2 minute intervals

:crazy:

 

[El Diablo]

On to your head obviously

Shithead

big financial news

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

The codes where playing 4 quarters are totally different to the game of rugby league.

AFL has unlimited interchanges.
I was watching the end of that drawn AFL final a few year ago, at the end of the game, all the players looked fresh, like they had not even played in a grand final. ?
Thats because of their unlimited interchange.

Then you have the NFL.
We all know that they stop to take photos, have interviews, check the wheather reports, stop for coffee breaks and even have little johnny do a interview while the players have a time out. ]

So playing 4 quarters in our code would fake up the whole system.

Our game is not designed to be played in 4 quarters.

It is designed to be played in 3x30 minutes.

Quarters isnt a huge jump; we already have it in the early round games....

1st and 3rd quarters will just be drinks breaks where the players dont even leave the field; ad people get their slots, players get a breather, fans get to watch teams running on fresh legs. Everyones a winner...

 

[langpark]

Guys, seriously, if it aint broke, don't fix it!!!

Why do we need to change something that's worked for 120 years all of a sudden just because some moron wants to make change for the sake of change. What works in America, won't necessarily work in other countries. I know for one, the biggest reason I don't watch NFL is because I know I'll need 3 hours to watch 60 minutes of actual play!

 

[insert.pause]

I wouldn't get too caught up in the 4 x 25min quarter idea, it's the same idea brought up at the last few comp. committee meetings, it predates Smith. It's never going to happen.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Guys, seriously, if it aint broke, don't fix it!!!

Why do we need to change something that's worked for 120 years all of a sudden just because some moron wants to make change for the sake of change. What works in America, won't necessarily work in other countries.

That kind of thinking would have us watching amatures playing union...

RL is founded on innovation and change. You say "the game has worked for 120 years so why change it?". The game today would be almost unrecognisable to Giltinan, Messanger and the like.

To enshrine the rules and say "change is scary, this is good enough" totally goes against the essence of RL as the sport that pushes the limits and tries new things. Be it professional players, a clean ruck or any of the other hundred changes, RL is at its core all about improvement.

I know for one, the biggest reason I don't watch NFL is because I know I'll need 3 hours to watch 60 minutes of actual play!

Its a fair jump to go from NRL adding quarters to a comparison with the NFLs advertisement clusterf**k...

 

[langpark]

That kind of thinking would have us watching amatures playing union...

RL is founded on innovation and change. You say "the game has worked for 120 years so why change it?". The game today would be almost unrecognisable to Giltinan, Messanger and the like.

To enshrine the rules and say "change is scary, this is good enough" totally goes against the essence of RL as the sport that pushes the limits and tries new things. Be it professional players, a clean ruck or any of the other hundred changes, RL is at its core all about improvement.

Its a fair jump to go from NRL adding quarters to a comparison with the NFLs advertisement clusterf**k...

Yes I understand what you're saying, but right now we're running the risk of the sport being unrecognisable to someone who watched it 10 years ago, let alone Dally Messenger. I'm just saying we need to put the brakes on a few things, it seems every time off season comes around, the NRL are saying "hmm, now how many rules are we going to change this time around', we won't try and do things together with the RFL and other countries that play the game, we're setting our own rules and the rest can all f*** off". This is why we desperately need a legitimate world governing body, like every other sport has!

 

[pHyR3]

That kind of thinking would have us watching amatures playing union...

RL is founded on innovation and change. You say "the game has worked for 120 years so why change it?". The game today would be almost unrecognisable to Giltinan, Messanger and the like.

To enshrine the rules and say "change is scary, this is good enough" totally goes against the essence of RL as the sport that pushes the limits and tries new things. Be it professional players, a clean ruck or any of the other hundred changes, RL is at its core all about improvement.



Its a fair jump to go from NRL adding quarters to a comparison with the NFLs advertisement clusterf**k...

of course, but some changes are for the better, some for the worse.

removing the corner post is a great change.

the 7 tackle set was an interesting change, whether it's a good one is debateable but at least they are trying something.

i dont see the 4 quarter/100min game have a large positive outcome on the product that offsets the large change in dynamic/pissing people off, but i could be wrong.

 

[DC_fan]

Regardless of whether you like David Smith or not, the guy has some interesting ideas for the future of the game. Fans have to accept that if the game is to grow and stay relevant especially to younger people it has to change. if the game today was run and played like it was back in the 1970s, well it probably wouldn't be here today.

I like the 4 x 25 quarters idea. For mine this would give a sense of a faster game for the fan. The downside to it the games will be longer and have the potential to finish much later. Which is a big factor when you have night games starting around 8pm.

Not everything that has been spoken about will be brought in to the game. But at least it seems that people are discussing some innovative ideas.

 

[Martin Bella's Luvhandles]

I like the 4 x 25 as well. More breaks equals more action IMO

How many games get dull in the last 10 of each half

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Stop calling the NRL 'the game'.

The NRL will be the game one day because it will kill the sport at every other level and rely on recruiting so-called athletes from every other sport. And the likes of smith and the commission would probably love that situation.

 

[taipan]

And how many of those things are underway? Doing nothing is certainly taking the slow approach. About as slow as possible I'd say.

Yeah let's adopt the AFL approach,and parachute a team into an area,befere all I's are dotted. And then continue to have to inject 10s of millions of dollars PA to sustain a team.:crazy:

Smith has stated from day one ,the NRL's first objective is to ensure all current 16 clubs are financially secure and well managed.That is happening ATM.
The next is to have a future fund of $200m by the end of 2017,aqlready $80m in after two years.
The previous goose Gallop,made half promises to possible expansion areas and left them up in the air.

The next TV negotiation is rumoured to be brought forward ,which no doubt will contain expansion aspects.


Without a decent amount of money behind you ,expansion and spending a lot on grassroots is a waste of space.

Smith makes an out of his depth Gallop look like Allan Bond re channel 10 buy/sell.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Yeah yeah. The same old line from the fanbois. If in doubt compare to gallop.

The afl approach is exactly what smith takes on every issue. And the commission. They blindly copy everything from vfl and nfl. We'll be wearing singlets and helmets soon.

The vfl had no viable and interested franchises but expanded anyway. We have multiple options that would grow and enhance the game and we ignore them.

As for spending money on grassroots being a 'waste of space', whatever the f**k that means, you'll be pleased to know the NRL is doing precisely f**k all for the sport at this level outside western Sydney despite the billion dollars. What a way to grow the game. And when I say 'the game' I mean the sport of rugby league, not the NRL. I know smith and co and his fan club don't understand the difference.

 

[POPEYE]

I like the 4 x 25 as well. More breaks equals more action IMO

How many games get dull in the last 10 of each half

Shouldn't that statement be in the 'less interchange' thread . . . you'd get all the excitement you want towards the end of each half if forwards were allowed to tire