Nrl grudge against dragons

[Michaeldragonslife25]

Da ReFs ArE aLwAyS aGaInSt Us

So your telling me the best you can come up with is a bad decision that went for us was in 2010? Woot good one berg

 

[possm]

Because 4 wasn't enough? The 4 tackle rule was introduced because teams could hold possession all day long and it wasn't conducive to a good, fair game.

No, the four tackle rule was introduced to change the game and the shape and size of players in the game in order to stop the mighty St George dominating the league.

Our slower, big, tough forwards dominated other packs for more than 11 consecutive seasons and so the ARL introduced measures such as the 4 tackle rule and the inclusion of two new teams - which were drawn out of our catchment district (Cronulla Southerland and Illawarra) in an effort to weaken dominance.

As a result we now find ourselves a bottom dweller in the NRL competition with no representation in the NRL top level of governance. The only representative we seem to have is Mark Coyne, a newly appointed ARLC commissioner who noticeably remains silent and just goes along with the flow in order to keep his position - notable in the De Belin case.

Ridding SGI of Doust was supposed to be the first step up the ladder in our quest to climb out of the bottom of the barrell however, although Doust, who has one of the biggest snouts in the trough, got his golden hand shake from SGI, managed to somehow in a backroom deal, hold onto power as CEO of St George Leaugues Club. This is the CEO who under his watch ran the one great Taj into disrepair and SGI into 6m in debt with the NRL.

With the promise of a fresh start we now find that our new CEO is just one of the old boys who was given the job under a cloud of nepotism and who now does the bidding of the old boys club.

I say we have a long, long way to go in our quest to rid the club of the people who put self interest ahead of the best interest of SGI and St George Leagues Club.

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[St George 1977]

I like this. Along with the indigenous round, and women in league round etc. we should have a No Dickhead Round. Some teams would only be able to field about four players. We wouldn't have a coach.

Indigenous round, woman’s round, retro round LGBT round will be NEXT ! It’s all way too far PC. That’s the real problem.Little Paul Greens player got hurt and Paul green was made to feel sad and hurt. Your not allowed to hurt or offend. Tariq got the week for it. Mark my words.

 

[St George 1977]

The golden days of rugby league are long gone. It’s all about the bucks and TV ratings and pandering to all the minority groups. Wasn’t happening when the game was at its peak. Was it !?

 

[St George 1977]

Even the magic round. Every team played at one stadium. They barely cracked 25k crowds. The NRL is ruining the game.
End rant(s)

 

[possm]

Which ever way you cut it Sims got one week for an incident that occurred last Sunday. So he has to miss the Storm game played on Thursday but why does he miss SOO the following Wed?

In my opinion Sims should not have been charged and so if an example must be set, he should only receive a light fine. Norman's jaw was broken from a hit to the head and no punishment at all.

 

[BLM01]

Which ever way you cut it Sims got one week for an incident that occurred last Sunday. So he has to miss the Storm game played on Thursday but why does he miss SOO the following Wed?

In my opinion Sims should not have been charged and so if an example must be set, he should only receive a light fine. Norman's jaw was broken from a hit to the head and no punishment at all.

I will spell it out for your Possm. You cant be available and picked for both games leading into an origin.
It is against the NSWRL & NRL rules
You are right re his suspension though!

 

[J.moz]

Nrl suck and the refs we got robbed tonight all penalties to Melbourne and the last to give them the win in front .

 

[rednwhites]

Nrl suck and the refs we got robbed tonight all penalties to Melbourne and the last to give them the win in front .

Melbourne games are more scripted than the WWE.

That's why "they always find a way to win".

 

[jeffdragon]

Nrl suck and the refs we got robbed tonight all penalties to Melbourne and the last to give them the win in front .

I could cop it if melb scored a try to win it but not a pen from dickflop ( to put it nicely Cummins)

 

[rednwhites]

I could cop it if melb scored a try to win it but not a pen from dickflop ( to put it nicely Cummins)

Only outdone by a forward pass try and the '99 grand final and the play the ball after the siren to win the game in '14.

Although it was dumb by Host to give them some reason to call it.

 

[rasaint]

Bromwich offload in the 2nd try to Storm was standard forward pass but play on.

Storm moving before the play the ball as usual but no penalties. I believe the refs are mesmerised by Cameron Smith ( I’m serious).

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

The abortion that is the current obstruction rule also came about to justify a bullshit no try call by Bill Harrigan against us in the Anzac Day game (2003 I think). Prior to this the obstruction rule worked fine for 80+ years.

We were also the first and only victim of the rule change bought in to stop players deliberately throwing the ball at an offside opposition player. McInnes wasn’t even looking at the player when he threw the pass.

We’re also the only team to have lost a game from an illegal play after full time.

“Sirengate” in 2012 cost SGI a semi final place that year, and didn’t help Steve Price retain his job.

 

[Anon]

We could also talk about the things we have got away with too.

I'll kick off with the boot of Brett in the 2010 Grand final.

The benefit of which was quickly overidden by awarding Anasta's try from a knock on.

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

Bias against Saints has been obvious since 1967. Of course, since then, the limited rackle rule was introduced as were Cronulla (specifically to halve the Dragons’ junior base) and Penrith.

As time has evolved, many more indiscretions have occurred;

1. 1984 elimination final against Parramatta refereed by Kevin Roberts. From memory, Eric Grothe’s decisive try came from a blatant forward pass.

2. 1985 grand final against Canterbury (again) refereed by Roberts. Why does one start with this diabolical, cheating example? Peter Mortimer’s try from a pass that would make Joe Nameth proud, or Peter Kelly belting Graeme Wynn, and they (the Bulldogs) get a penalty just when momentum was going Saints’s way?

3. 1986 eye gouging incident involving Steve Linnane and Greg Alexander. This act is indefensible, however, from memory Linnane received a 17 match suspension and his career was never the same again. Fast forward to contemporary times, George Burgess’s recent foul certainly doesn’t attract the same severity level.

4. 1993 grand final against Brisbane...sure, Saints were bog average...but what raised my ire was (referee) Greg McCallum’s failure to penalise Kevin Walters in the lead up to Chris Johns’ try after Mark Coyne was clearly obstructed.

5. 1995 elimination final against the Dogs. This was decided by an illegal shepherd “undetected” by Bill Harrigan.

6, 1996 grand final against Manly featuring THAT infamous Brown/Ridge incident. Predictably, referee David Manson has publicly stated (via YouTube) that his decision was “100 percent correct”.

Bull

7. 1997 and Super League comes along and sees the Club almost stripped bare by rival sides. A proposed merger (not joint venture) with (the now defunct) Eastern Suburbs is considered. Fortunately, this stupid idea doesn’t last long

8, 1998 elimination final against Canterbury. This game (refereed by Steve Clarke) remains on par with the 1996 and ‘99 grand final as the most blatant display of corrupt officialdom.

I think every Dragons’ fan waited behind the grandstand for that craven only to learn later on that the police moved him on via the playing surface and scoreboard.

8. 1999 grand final.

Enough has been said about this terrible day. However, forget THAT penalty try and realise it was really the Tony Martin’s “try” that determined the end result. Also ask yourself, was there a correlation between Bill Harrigan’s employer (News Limited) and the fact it administered the NRL at that particular time?

10/11. being screwed over by Tim Mander and Steve Clark respectively in 2005/06. Coach, Nathan Brown, was more than just unlucky.

12. 2011 elimination final game versus Brisbane featuring both “golden shower” and a crucial Lockyer try featuring a straightforward knock on during the lead up work.

13. 2012 saw Sirengate. It robbed Saints a semi final appearance that year. Did the NRL follow the AFL’s mature lead and simply share the competition points with Melbourne? Of course not.

14. 2015 elimination against (you guessed it) Canterbury. This time a case of non-too-subtle knees from Sam Kaufusi went unpunished.

15, 2018 elimination against Souths. Despite cracking down on players walking off the mark after being tackled,
the referees/touch judges all failed to notice George Burgess doing this same
error thrice before Reynolds kicks all those bloody field goals! If the officials had been competent (not biases) just once , Saints would have won.

And, there’s been a litany of competition games that number far too many to remember.

 

[SBD82]

This thread is the online equivalent of a bunch of blokes sitting in a room smelling each others’ farts, and then complaining that it stinks.

 

[muzby]

This thread is the online equivalent of a bunch of blokes sitting in a room smelling each others’ farts, and then complaining that it stinks.

I think a few may have followed through too...

 

[possm]

“Sirengate” in 2012 cost SGI a semi final place that year, and didn’t help Steve Price retain his job.

We don't have the on-field leadership to dispute decisions or hold the ref to account when the opposition is off side or when there is a forward pass. Smith is always at it and although he rarely gets a decision reversed, you can be sure the next 50/50 goes his way.

 

[St Georgio]

Bias against Saints has been obvious since 1967. Of course, since then, the limited rackle rule was introduced as were Cronulla (specifically to halve the Dragons’ junior base) and Penrith.

As time has evolved, many more indiscretions have occurred;

1. 1984 elimination final against Parramatta refereed by Kevin Roberts. From memory, Eric Grothe’s decisive try came from a blatant forward pass.

2. 1985 grand final against Canterbury (again) refereed by Roberts. Why does one start with this diabolical, cheating example? Peter Mortimer’s try from a pass that would make Joe Nameth proud, or Peter Kelly belting Graeme Wynn, and they (the Bulldogs) get a penalty just when momentum was going Saints’s way?

3. 1986 eye gouging incident involving Steve Linnane and Greg Alexander. This act is indefensible, however, from memory Linnane received a 17 match suspension and his career was never the same again. Fast forward to contemporary times, George Burgess’s recent foul certainly doesn’t attract the same severity level.

4. 1993 grand final against Brisbane...sure, Saints were bog average...but what raised my ire was (referee) Greg McCallum’s failure to penalise Kevin Walters in the lead up to Chris Johns’ try after Mark Coyne was clearly obstructed.

5. 1995 elimination final against the Dogs. This was decided by an illegal shepherd “undetected” by Bill Harrigan.

6, 1996 grand final against Manly featuring THAT infamous Brown/Ridge incident. Predictably, referee David Manson has publicly stated (via YouTube) that his decision was “100 percent correct”.

Bull

7. 1997 and Super League comes along and sees the Club almost stripped bare by rival sides. A proposed merger (not joint venture) with (the now defunct) Eastern Suburbs is considered. Fortunately, this stupid idea doesn’t last long

8, 1998 elimination final against Canterbury. This game (refereed by Steve Clarke) remains on par with the 1996 and ‘99 grand final as the most blatant display of corrupt officialdom.

I think every Dragons’ fan waited behind the grandstand for that craven only to learn later on that the police moved him on via the playing surface and scoreboard.

8. 1999 grand final.

Enough has been said about this terrible day. However, forget THAT penalty try and realise it was really the Tony Martin’s “try” that determined the end result. Also ask yourself, was there a correlation between Bill Harrigan’s employer (News Limited) and the fact it administered the NRL at that particular time?

10/11. being screwed over by Tim Mander and Steve Clark respectively in 2005/06. Coach, Nathan Brown, was more than just unlucky.

12. 2011 elimination final game versus Brisbane featuring both “golden shower” and a crucial Lockyer try featuring a straightforward knock on during the lead up work.

13. 2012 saw Sirengate. It robbed Saints a semi final appearance that year. Did the NRL follow the AFL’s mature lead and simply share the competition points with Melbourne? Of course not.

14. 2015 elimination against (you guessed it) Canterbury. This time a case of non-too-subtle knees from Sam Kaufusi went unpunished.

15, 2018 elimination against Souths. Despite cracking down on players walking off the mark after being tackled,
the referees/touch judges all failed to notice George Burgess doing this same
error thrice before Reynolds kicks all those bloody field goals! If the officials had been competent (not biases) just once , Saints would have won.

And, there’s been a litany of competition games that number far too many to remember.

This is one of the best post of all time stating some real facts.
This + Super coach is why I don't bother sitting watching the game, I started watching league at a very tender age (1977) following the greatest rugby league team of all time, To experience 1 premiership and to invest 40 years of my own precious time is not good enough!!!
To be fair as fans we should expect 1 premiership every decade (worst case scenario)!!

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

This thread is the online equivalent of a bunch of blokes sitting in a room smelling each others’ farts, and then complaining that it stinks.

You’ve described my favourite fantasy.