NRL may Veteo Bulldogs sponsorship

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

I saw a bloke wearing some recent Manly merchandise, and who was one of the sponsors: Strathfield Car Radio's.

 

[Alex28]

Already discussed - Strathfield was once a Telstra agent. Not any more.

 

[Timmah]

NRL or Telstra? I mean, if Telstra wanted that as part of ponying up $12 Million to sponsor the league then what was the NRL to do? Hold out for the other $12 Million prospective sponsors to agree to a deal without that sort of agreement?

Get real Timmah...there are only so many companies with the sort of budget to pay that sort of cash and the NRL are hardly in the position where they can dictate terms.

But the AFL are? My point wasn't that it should change - my point was the NRL is dragging the chain. It stands, and your statements do nothing to disprove that.

 

[Alex28]

Unfortunately AFL have absolutely no trouble in finding sponsors. I believe Toyota ended up paying overs in taking over from CUB to become major sponsor of the AFL. They literally had companies queueing up to be the major sponsor.

If I remember correctly we had to go public in a search for a major sponsor to convince Telstra to re-sign. Might be wrong, but I don't think I am. In sponsorship the AFL is in a different stratosphere mate. They choose who they want, we take what we can get.

 

[Timmah]

Taking over from CUB? Didn't they take over from Coca Cola? :?

 

[El Diablo]

Unfortunately AFL have absolutely no trouble in finding sponsors. I believe Toyota ended up paying overs in taking over from CUB to become major sponsor of the AFL. They literally had companies queueing up to be the major sponsor.

If I remember correctly we had to go public in a search for a major sponsor to convince Telstra to re-sign. Might be wrong, but I don't think I am. In sponsorship the AFL is in a different stratosphere mate. They choose who they want, we take what we can get.

Toyota pay less than Telstra unless Toyota upped their sponsorship

$10 mill for AFL http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23881448-19742,00.html

$12 mill for NRL http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/...sponsors-stoush/2009/04/16/1239475001065.html

how is that in a different stratosphere :?

 

[Alex28]

Toyota pay $10 Million for sponsorship only. Telstra pay $12 Million for sponsorship and certain rights (such as internet media rights). Not apples for apples. Lets find out what Telstra are paying for Internet Media rights first before we declare that the NRL are getting more than the AFL for the major sponsorship.

Also Toyota pay less on the basis that the AFL knows that the clubs rely on sponsorship from Toyota's competitors. Telstra pay for exclusivity. Does the Bulldogs not benefit from the extra money that Telstra pay to sponsor the NRL? Of course it does.

The clubs in the AFL get far more in sponsorship than NRL clubs are getting (for instance Collingwood got over $17 Million in sponsorship and marketing in 2008 - more than the total turnover of some NRL clubs). Overall the AFL are getting in far more sponsorship and marketing money than the NRL is.

And if you think the Telstra/Strathfield competition connection is a bit of a stretch, we have nothing on the AFL:

The insider also revealed that the AFL was threatening to take Melbourne to court over the club's sponsorship deal with tyre manufacturer Hankook. The AFL was reportedly furious because the Demons neglected to check if Qantas used the Korean-based company's plane tyres.

"When Qantas found out Melbourne had signed Hankook tyres, well, they were really cross and got straight on the blower to Andy. You see, Qantas don't use Hankook. Andy then got really cross and he was straight on the blower to Ed.

"Well, Ed was absolutely filthy and chucked one of his 'don't-mess-with-me' tantrums because Emirates don't use Hankook tyres either.

 

[Timmah]

Not to mention the fact they're not referring to the Dome by it's official name as Etihad (the new naming rights sponsor of TD) is a direct competitor with QANTAS.

QANTAS should stop being whiny b*tches and concentrate on keeping their planes in the air :lol:

Back on topic, I'm sure there's some sort of explanation but it appears there's no problem with Strathfield sponsoring MMM's Monday night footy broadcast...

 

[Alex28]

Timmah...that is sponsorship of Triple M, not the NRL.

Next obscure justification of the sponsorship please...

 

[Timmah]

I never said it has to be a justification, just more evidence of conflicting sponsorship deals that aren't choked by stupid exclusivity deals. Although, they're still calling Telstra Premiership matches.

 

[Timmah]

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...001023,00.html


Sponsorship word next week for Dogs


BULLDOGS officials will know next week whether Strathfield Group can take up its $2 million major sponsorship.
Dogs CEO Todd Greenberg is resisting negotiations with other potential sponsors because of promising talks with the NRL. The sticking point is NRL sponsor Telstra, which used its exclusivity clause to block Strathfield Group because one of the company's arms deals directly with Optus.
The major telco has been unwilling to discuss a compromise directly with the Bulldogs. The club needs some good news after losing its appeal on Wednesday for two stripped competition points after fielding 14 players against Penrith.
Of some consolation is the fact club barrister Arthur Moses SC agreed to send all legal fees incurred - around $5000 - to Camp Quality.

 

[Timmah]

http://bulldogs.com.au/default.aspx?s=article-display&id=17078

It appears "will know in a week" turned into a month.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Well given the way the bulldogs have turned things around I doubt they'll have trouble finding another solid sponsor.

 

[Alex28]

Still can't get those words out can you...

Come on Timmah...say it...

"I was wrong"

It wont hurt you...

 

[Firey_Dragon]

Well given the way the bulldogs have turned things around I doubt they'll have trouble finding another solid sponsor.

Given the current financial climate marketing and sponsorship is a hard sell to any company.

 

[Timmah]

Deal - I'll say it if you admit "I'm obssessed".

 

[Dogs Of War]

Given the current financial climate marketing and sponsorship is a hard sell to any company.

For sure. Though glad the Dogs are going well on and off the field, as that makes for more interest, though hopefully the scandals die down, because that effects all the clubs. That said, Camp Quality is getting a good run, so there is a bright side to all this.

 

[Alex28]

Still the arseclown right to the end huh...

Surely you would have known that I would have come to gloat over your stupidity when you were proven wrong...

 

[Timmah]

Pfft. My team is sitting in second on the NRL ladder with great prospects of picking up a different sponsors now, why would I give a sh*t what you think? :lol:

 

[bartman]

Can someone change the thread title to "NRL did veto Bulldogs sponsorship"? Thanks ;-)