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NRL players at the bottom of the pile - Roy Masters

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NRL players at the bottom of the pile

ROY MASTERS

March 10, 2010

Fast bowler Glenn McGrath was typical of most cricketers and footballers 15 to 20 years ago when he arrived in Sydney from the dusty plains of NSW and vowed to encourage his children to play golf or tennis in order for them to ''earn some real money.''
Since then cricketers have caught up with the golfers and tennis players, becoming the first ''team millionaires'' of Australian sport.
McGrath did not anticipate the money coming into Australian cricket from overseas TV rights, and a new pay deal for Australia's top 25 cricketers will provide them with an average $1 million a year.
Higher than expected earnings for Cricket Australia over the past four years meant its revenue was about $100 million above the $478 million forecast and, under a deal struck with the Australian Cricketers Association, players receive 25 per cent of total revenue generated.
AFL footballers also receive a quarter of total revenue from broadcasting rights, gate takings, sponsorship, merchandising and any other income received by the 16 clubs and the central administration.
Super 14 players receive 26 per cent of what is called ''player generated revenue'', a sum not comparable with total revenue because it excludes income such as foreign exchange earnings, interest received, rent and some grants. Rugby union players receive between 15 and 20 per cent of total revenue, about the same as NRL players..
According to the NRL's chief executive, David Gallop, the NRL receives about $150 million a year and the 16 clubs average receipts of $13 million to $14 million.
Each club has a salary cap of $4.1 million, and all but the Warriors pay the full amount, meaning the wage bill of the clubs in 2010 will be about $65 million. Another $2 million is paid in third-party deals with club-associated sponsors and an additional $3.5 million is paid to about 80 players in NRL-sanctioned sponsorship arrangements.
A total revenue pool of $374 million and player payments of $71 million means the NRL players' share of the revenue cake is 19 per cent.
However, with 25 players at each of the NRL's 16 clubs, the average salary is well below the mean of Super 14's 132 fully contracted players and lower than the AFL average payment.
Ian Schubert, the NRL's salary cap boss, says the average NRL salary in 2010 will be $164,000, based on 25 players sharing $4.1 million, although the $5.5 million in sponsorship money across the NRL lifts the average to $177,750.
This is well short of the medium 2008 AFL payment of $233,000. An AFL spokesman said the 2009 figures would not be available for three weeks but salaries had increased 4 per cent on 2008, meaning the average payment to the players at the AFL's 16 clubs last year, including marketing deals, would be $240,000 to $245,000.
''Total payments to players in 2008 was $129 million and AFL revenue was $327 million, while separate club revenue would probably be $200 million,'' an AFL spokesman said, meaning players share of total revenue was 24.4 per cent.
According to the Australian Rugby Union Players Association, the average 2008 player salary for Australia's four Super 14 franchises (Brumbies, Reds, Waratahs and Western Force) was $238,738, on a par with the AFL and also well above the NRL.
Another factor is the effort involved in earning the income.
The NRL men play two more games a year than AFL players and nearly double the 13 matches played by a Super 14 player, although Wallabies play an additional 12 to 15 games a year.
The Wallabies are the highest paid elite squad of the three football codes, averaging $380,000 a year in 2008, while the average for those who play Super 14 and finish the season playing club rugby is $130,000.
But the AFL's 2008 annual report lists two players - believed to be Carlton's Chris Judd and St Kilda's Nick Riewoldt - receiving $1 million a year.
The NRL's highest-paid player would probably earn half this.
A weak NRL Players Association and a grossly underpaid broadcasting deal are the chief reasons league players echo McGrath's comments of 15 years ago. Furthermore, the NRL pitches its salary cap at the capacity to pay of its poorest club. The Sharks, with a turnover of $11 million, spend 37 per cent of income on player salaries, while the Broncos, with an income of $26 million, outlay only 15 per cent.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/nrl-players-at-the-bottom-of-the-pile-20100309-pvrt.html

what the hell is up roys arse? all that's coming out of him in the leadup to the 2010 season is negative articles...

i usually respect the blokes opinion and enjoy reading his articles... but i can't help but think someone must have sh*t in his cereal recently, because he seems to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder this week.

i mean he's right, our players do - on average - get paid less than the other codes... but why bring this up a few days out from the season kickoff?
 
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Of course Yawnion players are going to average higher... they only have four teams to worry about...

NRL has to field 4 times as many teams, so the average is going to come down...

Id bet that the top 100 players in NRL would earn more than the top 100 players in Yawnion...

The bottom 100 players in the NRL would earn less than $100K so this brings down the average significantly...
 

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i mean he's right, our players do - on average - get paid less than the other codes... but why bring this up a few days out from the season kickoff?

Maybe because he'd like something to be done about it now that the TV rights are up for negotiation?
 

Eels Dude

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Rather silly argument. The only sport worth comparing with is AFL. Union only have 4 sides, and it'd only be the players contracted to the ARU that would earn a motza. Same with cricket, outside the 20 or 25 players contracted to CA the remainder would earn very little. Of course NRL players are going to earn less on average when you compare 400 of them with the 100 or so who'll play Super 14, or the 25 to 30 that will play cricket for Australia. Include club rugby and interstate cricket and the figures would be a lot different.
 

Eels Fanatic

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Union has a world market - apples with oranges and the money has almost run dry.

By Roys reckoning using statistics to build points.

AFL plays in 5 major capitals whereas league play in 3 (New Zealand not incl).

NRL is in a market 3/5th's the size of AFL. Therefore their average wage is:

$242,500.00 x 3 / 5 =

Drumroll please $145,500.00. If they are averaging $177,750.00 this means they are outdoing their AFL counterparts by $32,250.00 on average.

In the end who cares!

They are all well paid for what they do, when they do it well, and nothing entertains like a good game of league. Whatever the cost!
 

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"Each club has a salary cap of $4.1 million, and all but the Warriors pay the full amount"

I've seen this mentioned a few times lately, is there a reason for this?

Seems surprising since weren't the Warriors deducted points for going over the cap a few years ago?
 

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i seem to recall Gould having this whinge a while ago. Gallop had a meeting with him and Gould then seemed happy that NRL players were getting a better percentage of available funds than any other code
 

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Warriors don't have the corporate sponsorship or following and therefore have to stay well within the cap. As for fines for breaches every team gets them at some stage especially when they are going well with rep duties and finals bonuses.
 

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I don't see anything wrong with the article, he is just simply stating facts, and hopefully in a round-about way is helping to push the price for the next tv rights up.
 

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Don't mind the tv rights money going up, but wouldn't you rather see the money channelled to other ventures, such as junior development, cheaper game days for families, or even jerseys that don't cost $160.00 each.

The money can come in and be spent on players but remember some of these players get paid without playing when they are injured or suspended. I watch the games religously on free to air and at the pub for cable yet to put a new jersey on my back and go to the games costs me over $60.00 for me the missus and son. Take the money but make sure it gets back to the loyal supporters.

And if I get a drink or two look out bank balance.
 

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Eels Fanatic im assuming you are not a Eels member then???

If you were a Eels Member it would be relevantly cheaper for a family for entry and you are giving your beloved club $$$.. also im not sure about the Eels but i assume you would get a discount on jerseys if you were a member.
 

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Eels Fanatic im assuming you are not a Eels member then???

If you were a Eels Member it would be relevantly cheaper for a family for entry and you are giving your beloved club $$$.. also im not sure about the Eels but i assume you would get a discount on jerseys if you were a member.

He makes a fair point... even being a member with ticketing, food, travelling costs and parking you're looking at an expensive day out. It's not an issue for me because as a single man in my 20's I can afford it, but I can understand why family men cannot afford to do so on a regular basis. Jerseys shouldn't be an issue, you can pick them up for cheap during the off season and they last forever. My 2005 jersey I got for 50 bucks is still in perfect condition. Obviously a different situation if you've growing kids though.
 

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Eels Fanatic im assuming you are not a Eels member then???

If you were a Eels Member it would be relevantly cheaper for a family for entry and you are giving your beloved club $$$.. also im not sure about the Eels but i assume you would get a discount on jerseys if you were a member.

So by your account I should pay a membership fee to receive a discount. Sorry the maths don't add up.

As for the membership, my son is only 2, and as most of the games are now in the evening I choose to go to the ones played on Sunday's for his sake whereas I went to all the home games prior to his birth. When he is a little older this will change permitted he still wants to go however a membership doesn't account for a cost saving unless I go to most of the games.

I can get a discount via friends but I am usually the one organising the event between my friends and therefore pay for the tickets prior to the event. The only games I goto at night and leave the family is the Knights games snice 1996 missed one due to a cricket grand final so I went up their when we met them next. Well worth it we won 50-0.
 

Eels Dude

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So by your account I should pay a membership fee to receive a discount. Sorry the maths don't add up.

As for the membership, my son is only 2, and as most of the games are now in the evening I choose to go to the ones played on Sunday's for his sake whereas I went to all the home games prior to his birth. When he is a little older this will change permitted he still wants to go however a membership doesn't account for a cost saving unless I go to most of the games.

I can get a discount via friends but I am usually the one organising the event between my friends and therefore pay for the tickets prior to the event. The only games I goto at night and leave the family is the Knights games snice 1996 missed one due to a cricket grand final so I went up their when we met them next. Well worth it we won 50-0.

I think you make a very good point. As long as 5 to 6 games every week are scheduled during the evening it makes it difficult for famlies with younger children to attend. Which means people with young children are less likely to become members, ticketed or not. If more games were played in the afternoon then I believe more people would be willing to sign up for ticketed memberships.
 

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Warriors don't have the corporate sponsorship or following and therefore have to stay well within the cap. As for fines for breaches every team gets them at some stage especially when they are going well with rep duties and finals bonuses.

Bzzz... wrong.

The Warriors have a very lucrative deal with Vodafone. They also have a multi millionaire as one of their main shareholders.

This year they have stored some of their salary cap, and even at the moment there's murmurs of them using it on guys like Krisnan Inu... or $BW.. or to allow them to work into the U20s into first grade a bit more by leaving space that would normally be allocated to the second tier cap.
 

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I think you make a very good point. As long as 5 to 6 games every week are scheduled during the evening it makes it difficult for famlies with younger children to attend. Which means people with young children are less likely to become members, ticketed or not. If more games were played in the afternoon then I believe more people would be willing to sign up for ticketed memberships.

I just wish David Gallop would see this. However I don't think families are his target market. More the singles between 18-35.

Why else would they sell alcohol at an event but limit you to two drinks per purchase?
 

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I just wish David Gallop would see this. However I don't think families are his target market. More the singles between 18-35.

Why else would they sell alcohol at an event but limit you to two drinks per purchase?
sounds like a limit imposed by the club/stadium to me. i know at knights home games it's 4 drinks per purchase.
 

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AFL plays in 5 major capitals whereas league play in 3 (New Zealand not incl).

NRL is in a market 3/5th's the size of AFL. Therefore their average wage is:

$242,500.00 x 3 / 5 =


All capital cities are not equal.

1/3 of Australians live in NSW
NSW & QLD together are over 50% of the Aussie population.
 

Eels Dude

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I just wish David Gallop would see this. However I don't think families are his target market. More the singles between 18-35.

Why else would they sell alcohol at an event but limit you to two drinks per purchase?

I'd say that's for responsibilities sake. Limiting it to 2 drinks per person is actually a deterrent for those in that age group for coming to a game. Being a single male in that age group I'd know. Anyway, it's nothing to do with Gallop. It's the stadium's decision.

Gallop's agenda is getting the most from the TV rights deal, which makes sense, but at the same time when he's trying to convince fans to become members of their clubs, it's a deterrent for parents to join up if all but 2 games per round are played in the evening.
 
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Each club has a salary cap of $4.1 million, and all but the Warriors pay the full amount, meaning the wage bill of the clubs in 2010 will be about $65 million. Another $2 million is paid in third-party deals with club-associated sponsors and an additional $3.5 million is paid to about 80 players in NRL-sanctioned sponsorship arrangements.

(1) God knows how some clubs get near the $4.1m with the squads they have. Sharks, Raiders, looking at you especially.

(2) Wonder if the $2m in 3rd party is actually paid or is just the theoretical amount that could be paid?
 

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