NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

[no name]

So the NRL want control of the international game in the southern hemisphere, get the additional revenue through telecast rights etc but want the payment to come out of the player fund?
Is that what the international sticking point is?
The NRL should stick to trying to run one competition inadequately.

 

[Perth Red]

So the NRL want control of the international game in the southern hemisphere, get the additional revenue through telecast rights etc but want the payment to come out of the player fund?
Is that what the international sticking point is?
The NRL should stick to trying to run one competition inadequately.

Yep pretty much it. Id also like to know how players not in the NRL who get picked for their country get paid?

 

[Iamback]

So the NRL want control of the international game in the southern hemisphere, get the additional revenue through telecast rights etc but want the payment to come out of the player fund?
Is that what the international sticking point is?
The NRL should stick to trying to run one competition inadequately.

It was put up, It is fine if it isn't wanted.

The sport can just continue on with the odd test here and there.

Just hoping the good players leave behind the money for Australia and choose the islands

 

[Perth Red]

It was put up, It is fine if it isn't wanted.

The sport can just continue on with the odd test here and there.

Just hoping the good players leave behind the money for Australia and choose the islands

It'll be great lf the Tongan tour is a great success this Autumn and it gives the other countries confidence to start staging their own international programs. No reason a NZ v Samoa test series in NZ couldnt make both some money for both countries to invest back into the sport in their countries. Id rather that than the NRL take it.

 

[Iamback]

I would rather the nrl pay the island players than the island board members tbh. They are so corrupt, it's also the reason why the Tonga players left the Tongan board members.

They also have access to better sponsors etc, $20k for a months work is huge for the island players

 

[Perth Red]

They also have access to better sponsors etc, $20k for a months work is huge for the island players

eh? You do know Taumalolo earns $100k a month in the NRL dont you? Ideally every player woull get $10k a game and women $5k a game (cap exempt). That would be a good goal to aim for for international RL. But we also need them to be playing 4-5 Internationals a year. Most players will tell you that dont rep for their country for the money. It'd be better for the game to see most of it go to that country for grassroots development than into pockets of already wealthy NRL players.

 

[Maximus]

Your 2nd point is my thoughts on the matter.

I heard Newton say on the radio yesterday the game hasn't had a long term CBA for 10 years so that is the aim.

Which I don't see as realistic.

He bangs on about GPS data being sold etc, I don't see that happening anytime soon,

Nor Internationals making money anytime soon.

Just get the deal done and put clauses in should either become issues in the future

Except the hold up on the GPS/medical data appears to be that the NRL want to be able to do it in the future without having to ask any players. The clause is exactly what Newton was saying they want and the NRL won't do.

 

[Perth Red]

Out of interest some other sports payments for Int duties

RU (England) $40k a game
Football (Eng) players donate their earnings to grassroots program
RU (Wales) $10k a game plus $2k image rights (they do also top up salaries for Int players)
England (RL) $20k a game (major tournaments)
Australia (RL) $20k (2017 RLWC) + $50k winning bonus

In the 2021 RLWC every player across all the participating teams got paid the same base amount out of a $3.5mill pot. Thsi could be added to by the aprticpating country of they could afford it.

 

[siv]

on 2. that isnt their argument. What they are arguing is that there was an agreed player total funding pool. Then NRL has added all rep payments for any NRL and NRLW player for any country into that pool afterwards. Their argument is that it should be separate and be reviewed and adjusted depending on how internationals do in generating profit in the future.

Lets say there's 15 internationals (mens and womens a year) run by NRL. And players get $15k a game across the board for a 20 person squad. Thats $4.5mill a year out of the players funding.

But it cant come off the agreed Salary Cap which is where players payments are actually housed

 

[Iamback]

But it cant come off the agreed Salary Cap which is where players payments are actually housed

NRL likely lump all rep revenue together. Instead of the Kangaroos getting $20k a game. That gets split to like $5k a game

So it isn't costing the players any money

 

[siv]

Point 1 is easily solved by a ratchet for all current salaries for length of current contract.

30% increase to all current deals would maintain some integrity. Would stop players holding out for the new cap value before signing.

Far more integrity in the cap than Simple Jack and Ben Hunt's search for new deals this year.

The issue is not the players side of the $

But that the salary cap each season shouldnt jump more than a 1/5th per year in a 5 year cycle

Rather than a full jump in year 1 of 5 and then no change for the next 4 years

It favours inside knowledge clubs and clubs who deal for year 1 deals

And it stops the balancing process that the cap creates of the playing pool for 2 years

 

[siv]

Its arguable if the Australian RLC should be paying int football salaries at all beyond the Kangaroos, surely they should be paying the countries RL governing body who are taking part and the governing body be paying the players that play for that country?
What this does is give control of Int Rl (at least in Southern Hemi) to the NRL, they can dictate who plays and where. Its good to see Tonga at least have stuck two fingers up at that and independently organised a tour of England.

Everyone knows that if the NRL has to pay. There is no other money

 

[Perth Red]

NRL likely lump all rep revenue together. Instead of the Kangaroos getting $20k a game. That gets split to like $5k a game

So it isn't costing the players any money

Surely its being suggested that the men get more than $5k each? Cant see Kangaroos used to getting $15-20k being happy to get $5k. Even Kiwis would have got more than that for test matches. And what about the test nations governing bodies, are they getting a slice of the pie to reinvest in grassroots back in that country?

 

[Wb1234]

‘We have to look down that path’: Broncos captain threatens player strike as bitter pay war explodes

‘We have to look down that path’: Broncos captain threatens players’ strike as bitter pay war explodes

www.foxsports.com.au

Boycott hasn’t worked abdo has stood firm

the arlc should call their strike bluff the game is strong enough to deal with the fallout

 

[siv]

Surely its being suggested that the men get more than $5k each? Cant see Kangaroos used to getting $15-20k being happy to get $5k. Even Kiwis would have got more than that for test matches. And what about the test nations governing bodies, are they getting a slice of the pie to reinvest in grassroots back in that country?

With SOO being on $30k per player

And RU paying Wallabies $40k

That sets the scene for what a International game payment should be eg $40-50k

RLWC sets the scene for the number of games with 6 games being the maximum post season

So how much should they be worth? Maybe this sets the picture for international fixtures

 

[Iamback]

With SOO being on $30k per player

And RU paying Wallabies $40k

That sets the scene for what a International game payment should be eg $40-50k

RLWC sets the scene for the number of games with 6 games being the maximum post season

So how much should they be worth? Maybe this sets the picture for international fixtures

There isn't that much money in the international game

 

[Pneuma]

There isn't that much money in the international game

Yep but there is plenty of money in the game to compensate that. Either we value test footy or we don’t.

 

[Clarkent]

There isn't that much money in the international game

I agree. But it has the potential to make big money if they invest in it and consistently plan more games every year. A 5 nations tournament of Kangaroos, Kiwis, Samoa, Tonga and England has the potential to make more money than origin if every games competitive.
Rlpa and nrl needs to sort there out they're holding the international game back at the time when it's at his highest ever

 

[Steel Saints]

Tbf, Clint handles himself pretty well here.

 

[taste2taste]

When the dust settles I just hope Int football gets the stage it deserves.

I'd hope for players to be paid equally, take Haas for example, before the WC he was switching every day between Samoa and Australia. For players where it's a 50/50 decision the Kangaroos will always have the advantage if they are paying the players 20k compared to Samoa's 2k.