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NRL stars are planning an extraordinary meeting

bildo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...g-----as-jt-commits-to-nrl-20100510-uot5.html

Onya J.T!

Players call crisis meeting . . . as JT commits to NRL

BRAD WALTER AND CHRIS BARRETT

May 11, 2010

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Staying in league . . . Johnathan Thurston at the SFS last night before his Cowboys side defeated the Roosters. Photo: Steve Christo

NRL stars are planning an extraordinary meeting as early as today to discuss their concerns over the game's direction in the wake of the Storm salary cap scandal, including talk of possible strike action.
The meeting comes as Test halfback Johnathan Thurston prepares to announce at a press conference in Sydney today a $2 million deal to remain with the Cowboys for the next three seasons. (Report- Page 20).
Players were last night reluctant to give details of the meeting but it is understood the idea grew out of last week's Test camp in Melbourne, where the likes of Benji Marshall, Jarryd Hayne, Darren Lockyer, Petero Civoniceva and Cameron Smith all spoke out about the salary cap and the need to keep stars in the game.
Among the issues expected to be discussed by the players are:
❏ The potential loss of leading players such as Israel Folau to rival codes;
❏ Competitive wages for players compared with their counterparts in AFL and rugby union;
❏ A lifting of restrictions on third-party deals for players and the lack of exemptions for local juniors and long-serving players; and
❏ The severity of Melbourne's salary cap penalty, particularly the decision to make the Storm play for no points.
The Herald was told the meeting could take place today and would involve the game's biggest names - some of whom are expected to take part via phone hook-up.
It is also understood Rugby League Players' Association chief executive David Garnsey has been working with players behind the scenes in an attempt to formulate a united front in response to the code's most pressing issues. ''There is a lot of momentum at the moment and we are trying to organise the meeting as soon as possible,'' one player told the Herald. ''Hopefully we'll be in a position to make a statement tomorrow.''
Cowboys forward Willie Mason told the Herald after last night's 32-14 win against the Roosters that the game's senior players needed to get together to discuss their concerns.
''We've just got to solve it,'' he said. ''We don't want blokes like Jarryd Hayne walking away from the game. The senior players are starting to come out now. We've got to put our hands up for the future … [but] we can't just keep saying, 'Let's strike'. That's a load of crap.''
Mason had earlier refused to rule out such a drastic move. ''If it comes to that, if the players are all in it together, then that would have to be the case because that's the only way to get a message through,'' Mason told Channel Nine.
Despite being on the verge of announcing one of the most lucrative playing deals in NRL history, Thurston said he would back strike action.
''If senior blokes like Lockyer, Petero and Cam [Smith] decided that is what's best for us, to go down that path, I'd certainly jump behind them,'' Thurston said.
Garnsey said the players could not legally strike under the present collective-bargaining agreement with the NRL, which expires on October 31. The union has begun negotiations with the NRL on a new agreement.
''There's an agreement by the players in place and it says they will not take industrial action for its duration,'' Garnsey said. ''If they were to strike before that date, they'll put themselves in breach of those documents.''
Meanwhile, Thurston and his manager, Sam Ayoub, met Cowboys officials in Sydney yesterday to finalise a deal to keep the 27-year-old in Townsville and the NRL. French rugby club Biarritz has also lodged an offer. There were provisional plans in place for a Cowboys media conference to be held in Sydney today to announce Thurston's retention.
 

Gronk

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Industrial action LOL. Lock em out I say. Watch them wither on the vine.
 
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if they strike it won't work teams will just replace the players who strike with lower graders and the world will still turn.
 

JessEel

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Good God i would hate to imagine how much of the Cowboys Salary Cap is taken up by one player
 

Twizzle

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I can hear the players agents rubbing their hands together as I type
 

fish eel

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The players cant win in this situation.

They'll never be able to break the popular view they're already overpaid.

I think they've got a good case to make, but they'll just get hammered in the PR war, especially if they're basing their argument on the top paid players
 

fanaticeel

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I like this bit...just goes to show "Work Choices" impacted everyone...:sarcasm:

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...0510-uot5.html

"Garnsey said the players could not legally strike under the present collective-bargaining agreement with the NRL, which expires on October 31. The union has begun negotiations with the NRL on a new agreement."
 
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JessEel

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i can understand where the players are coming from though...yes, they are highly paid, but they are the best in their sport in this country. When you compare that to what other Australian Sportstars get (Aus Cricket Team etc) it's not that much..

But as someone said, there's too much of a 'you get paid overs to play sport' air about it, and they'll just be treated like spoilt brats
 

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i can understand where the players are coming from though...yes, they are highly paid, but they are the best in their sport in this country. When you compare that to what other Australian Sportstars get (Aus Cricket Team etc) it's not that much..

But as someone said, there's too much of a 'you get paid overs to play sport' air about it, and they'll just be treated like spoilt brats

The problem is that the cash pie with cricket and RU gets cut up to only a small group of players.

If the players want to compare themselves to any code then it should be the AFL. If they then compare AFL members and game attendances with NRL, then the NRL players get paid very well.
 

fish eel

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The problem is that the cash pie with cricket and RU gets cut up to only a small group of players.

If the players want to compare themselves to any code then it should be the AFL. If they then compare AFL members and game attendances with NRL, then the NRL players get paid very well.

and if they then compare TV audiences (considering TV brings in the dish)?
 

Gronk

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and if they then compare TV audiences (considering TV brings in the dish)?

Supply vs demand however. If there is no bidding war for the TV rights, then they may not achieve the big pay day that is being talked about in 2013.
 

fish eel

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Supply vs demand however. If there is no bidding war for the TV rights, then they may not achieve the big pay day that is being talked about in 2013.

Bidding war or not, it could be argued (not unreasonably IMO), that the players deserve a bigger share of TV revenue, given it is thew most watched football code on TV.

They generate the money and the audiences, they deserve a good slab of it IMO.

Also, the cap hasn't kept up with inflation, so you can also argue as a collective, their real wages have gone backwards, could you not?
 

hrundi99

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Australia (and more specifically NSW & QLD) is still a fairly small market, despite the popularity of the sport and the celebrity status of the leading players. There's only so much money in the game (including an upgraded tv contract) so there's only so much money to go around. The cap can be tweaked but if the players think the NRL is being significantly unfair then they are kidding themselves.
 
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if they strike it won't work teams will just replace the players who strike with lower graders and the world will still turn.

Not if the lower grade players are members of the RLPA. If that is the case, I'll be signing a $1 contract to pull on the jersey and do us proud :cool:

As far as this meeting goes, I think the RLPA should be focusing on organising itself better, setting goals for the future and placing itself to be in an important position to be a part of the distribution of the next set of media contracts.

If they say, 'We understand things are tight now but we also know things will get better in thye next few years. When that happens, we would like x, y and z to be part of the landscape" then I think they will get a lot more respect and sympathy from the general public.

If they keep on as is the fans will be against them. This will give the NRL the weight it needs to tell them to go get stuffed for acting like spoilt brats. Some names will quit, others will realise their bread and butter is on the line and will fall back into place.

The RLPA is a joke atm and this meeting needs to be about fixing that in order to go forward and nothing else.

I mean, why is HaHa crying like a baby and totally stuffing things up for the other players across the game when it is Caylo who is our RLPA representative? If anything comes out of the Parramatta camp it should be from Caylo and no one else (not even other respected players like Hindy and Burt).
 

El Diablo

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Garnsey the RLPA boss made it sound like all this strike talk was media BS on Fox Sports News

he said they've been in negotiations with the NRL since before all the salary cap drama

and it was also in print http://www.smh.com.au/sport/union-boss-wont-consider-calls-for-players-strike-20100509-ulv3.html

Union boss won't consider calls for players' strike
SEBASTIAN HASSETT
May 10, 2010

THE INSIDE BACK


RLPA chief executive David Garnsey has distanced himself from talk of strike action by NRL players unless more is done to keep its stars in the game. In yesterday's The Sun-Herald, Sonny Bill Williams's manager, Khoder Nasser, urged players to strike until they got the conditions they wanted, while Storm captain Cameron Smith said it was an option that could not be ruled out. But Garnsey, who will head negotiations with the NRL for a new collective bargaining agreement, did not want to know about industrial action when contacted yesterday by Inside Back. ''There has been no talk whatsoever of a strike from the RLPA,'' he said. ''We have a process, we are negotiating a new CBA and that is the correct forum to discuss these issues.''
 

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