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NRL wants two conference comp

Perth Red

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I’m in favour of conferences when we get to twenty clubs but I don’t agree at all with a nsw conf and a rest conf.
I’ve posted my idea before for two conferences that splits Sydney but keeps the main rivallaries . Let’s be honest sharks v panthers doesn’t draw a crowd any more than sharks v Storm (probably less in reality)
 

Pippen94

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I’m in favour of conferences when we get to twenty clubs but I don’t agree at all with a nsw conf and a rest conf.
I’ve posted my idea before for two conferences that splits Sydney but keeps the main rivallaries . Let’s be honest sharks v panthers doesn’t draw a crowd any more than sharks v Storm (probably less in reality)

Conferences got to mean something. Can't be random grouping. Sydney Conference results in champion for city.
Can see qld division as part of other conference
 

Perth Red

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Just reinforces public perception of rugby leagues as a sydney comp with a few add ons. Split the city with rivalries that actually mean something and that will boost crowds, not based on some mythical believe that dragons v manly is more interesting than dragons v broncos.
You want to create momentum for superleague2 seems a good way to go about it as non Sydney conf feeling neglected and all the media fta etc getting sucked up by Sydney conference


Arthur Summons Conference

Panthers
Eels
Bulldogs
Wests
Knights
Broncos
Titans
Cowboys
Brisbane2
Qlnd5

Norm Provan conference

Dragons
Rabbits
Sharks
Roosters
Sea-Eagles
Raiders
Warriors
Storm
Pirates
Adelaide or NZ2
 
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Pippen94

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Just reinforces public perception of rugby leagues as a sydney comp with a few add ons. Split the city with rivalries that actually mean something and that will boost crowds, not based on some mythical believe that dragons v manly is more interesting than dragons v broncos.
You want to create momentum for superleague2 seems a good way to go about it as non Sydney conf feeling neglected and all the media fta etc getting sucked up by Sydney conference


Arthur Summons Conference

Panthers
Eels
Bulldogs
Wests
Knights
Broncos
Titans
Cowboys
Brisbane2
Qlnd5

Norm Provan conference

Dragons
Rabbits
Sharks
Roosters
Sea-Eagles
Raiders
Warriors
Storm
Pirates
Adelaide or NZ2

These conferences have no meaning
 

Perth Red

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These conferences have no meaning

they represent the main rivalries in Sydney that actually make a difference to crowds, plus rivalries in qlnd and as you just told me potentially Nz, and I could see perth v melbourne becoming a major one. Much more interesting than an all sydney conference with clubs with no real rivalry only together because they are in the same city, perth v souths, dragons would both draw some of the biggest crowds as well.
 
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Pippen94

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they represent the main rivalries in Sydney that actually make a difference to crowds, plus rivalries in qlnd and as you just told me potentially Nz, and I could see perth v melbourne becoming a major one. Much more interesting than an all sydney conference with clubs with no real rivalry only together because they are in the same city, perth v souths, dragons would both draw some of the biggest crowds as well.

Just random groupings. Championship for Sydney title would be a big attraction. Even most ardent opponent in this thread would agree.
Ideally other conference would be qld title but alas...
 

Perth Red

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Just random groupings. Championship for Sydney title would be a big attraction. Even most ardent opponent in this thread would agree.
Ideally other conference would be qld title but alas...

Not random at all, look at the crowds for the games I’ve grouped together.
It’s not 1982 no matter how much you and Vlandys wish it was lol
 

MugaB

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Just reinforces public perception of rugby leagues as a sydney comp with a few add ons. Split the city with rivalries that actually mean something and that will boost crowds, not based on some mythical believe that dragons v manly is more interesting than dragons v broncos.
You want to create momentum for superleague2 seems a good way to go about it as non Sydney conf feeling neglected and all the media fta etc getting sucked up by Sydney conference


Arthur Summons Conference

Panthers
Eels
Bulldogs
Wests
Knights
Broncos
Titans
Cowboys
Brisbane2
Qlnd5

Norm Provan conference

Dragons
Rabbits
Sharks
Roosters
Sea-Eagles
Raiders
Warriors
Storm
Pirates
Adelaide or NZ2
Switch Manly and Canterbury and i feel that grouping would be better, making it a North-West vs South-East geographical split of Sydney/Pacific
It also depends on where the new teams are
 
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Just reinforces public perception of rugby leagues as a sydney comp with a few add ons. Split the city with rivalries that actually mean something and that will boost crowds, not based on some mythical believe that dragons v manly is more interesting than dragons v broncos.
You want to create momentum for superleague2 seems a good way to go about it as non Sydney conf feeling neglected and all the media fta etc getting sucked up by Sydney conference


Arthur Summons Conference

Panthers
Eels
Bulldogs
Wests
Knights
Broncos
Titans
Cowboys
Brisbane2
Qlnd5

Norm Provan conference

Dragons
Rabbits
Sharks
Roosters
Sea-Eagles
Raiders
Warriors
Storm
Pirates
Adelaide or NZ2

Those conferences aren't too bad actually, they make a lot of sense.
 

johns_reds

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The conference idea is terrible, the rest of the comp have way more travel.
The competition is biased enough to Sydney clubs, not sure why they are trying to make it worse

Also the fact that you can't have two sydney teams or two rest of the teams in the Grand final, will get boring after a few years.

I bet Sydney people would love to see another Roosters v Souths final, but that will never happen again under this format
 
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Instead of a Sydney and Non Sydney Conference system, maybe have a Northern Conference - Cowboys, Broncos, Brisbane2, Titans, Knights, Either Roosters or Tigers, Manly, Eels and Panthers. The rest make up the Southern Conference. You will still have Sydney derbies. Not too sure about the Conference system finals though. But if they do persist with that, at least there is still the possibility of an all Sydney G.F. Though no all QLD G.F. would be possible. Which is probably the main motive for this conference idea, seeing that Sydney is locked in indefinitely for the Grand Final venue.
 

MugaB

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Possibly put Canberra in the Sydney conference and then you could add Perth and a North Queensland team to the outer Sydney conference to what has already been proposed and have 2 x 10 conferences. Just saying
North QLD, do you mean the Cairns/PNG bid? and no to Canberra, as they are in the ACT, make it Newcastle and it becomes a NSW comp
 

MugaB

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Instead of a Sydney and Non Sydney Conference system, maybe have a Northern Conference - Cowboys, Broncos, Brisbane2, Titans, Knights, Either Roosters or Tigers, Manly, Eels and Panthers. The rest make up the Southern Conference. You will still have Sydney derbies. Not too sure about the Conference system finals though. But if they do persist with that, at least there is still the possibility of an all Sydney G.F. Though no all QLD G.F. would be possible. Which is probably the main motive for this conference idea, seeing that Sydney is locked in indefinitely for the Grand Final venue.
Yes i reckoned this, from about 6 months ago, saying a north/south border split of sydney breaking up each conference

North
Cowboys, Broncos, Dolphins, Titans, Knights, SeaEagles, Panthers, Eels, Tigers

South
Rabbitohs, Roosters, Sharks, Bulldogs, Dragons, Warriors, NZ2, Raiders, Storm
 

titoelcolombiano

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Not sure how I feel about this idea. Is anyone in Sydney going to care about the 'non-Sydney' pool? Also, 9 is no better a number than 17 in terms of teams. Is this a prelude for the Bears to come back in as the 10th team in the Sydney league and Perth as the 10th in the non-Sydney league?

Also (and I could be wrong), wouldn't Canberra and Newcastle make more sense in the Sydney or NSW conference in terms of rivalries and drawing crowds?
 

JokerEel

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Who would be opposed to it?
The teams in Sydney would be thrilled. It will generate more interest, greater crowd numbers and potentially allow the NRL to sell Sydney conference games at a premium to broadcasters.

The teams in the outer-Sydney conference may not be as ecstatic. They will have to travel more and crowd figures may take a hit. The four Queensland teams might not be as heavily impacted. The Warriors may welcome the rivalry but there may also be a financial impact on the club, as well as competition for juniors.”

This is always understated in this conversation and should be the reason it gets a big fat no.


Who would the Warriors have to travel more or the Storm or Cowboys?
 

JokerEel

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Just reinforces public perception of rugby leagues as a sydney comp with a few add ons. Split the city with rivalries that actually mean something and that will boost crowds, not based on some mythical believe that dragons v manly is more interesting than dragons v broncos.
You want to create momentum for superleague2 seems a good way to go about it as non Sydney conf feeling neglected and all the media fta etc getting sucked up by Sydney conference


Arthur Summons Conference

Panthers
Eels
Bulldogs
Wests
Knights
Broncos
Titans
Cowboys
Brisbane2
Qlnd5

Norm Provan conference

Dragons
Rabbits
Sharks
Roosters
Sea-Eagles
Raiders
Warriors
Storm
Pirates
Adelaide or NZ2


So I am assuming each conference plays the teams in their conference twice and the other once?

So the Cowboys have to travel to Perth in 1 year but Perth don't travel to them until the next year :thinking:
 

mongoose

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Super League Conference
Broncos
Cowboys
Storm
Raiders
Panthers
Sharks
Bulldogs
Warriors

ARL Conference
Roosters
Dragons
Rabbitohs
Eels
Tigers
Sea Eagles
Knights
Titans
 

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