NRL wants two conference comp

[RL The greatest game]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...s-part-of-expansion-push-20210427-p57muj.html

Que haters

You need to put this on the bigfooty forum. I would, but i got banned from there forums .
This will have the fans of the Anglo-Irish game in meltdown and Noob pie will probably want to jump off a high building along with them insular fans of the midgets

 

[Santino Patane]

It was good to hear PVL hose it down on NRL360 tonight. Hopefully common sense prevails here.....

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It was good to hear PVL hose it down on NRL360 tonight. Hopefully common sense prevails here.....

If 9 clubs are going to be travelling far more than the other 9 then what does the ARLC do to compensate them?

By the end of the season the Non-Sydney clubs will be buggered from all the travel, so will be at a massive disadvantage come finals time.

The more Sydney-centric they make it, the more appealing AwFuL will become in Queensland, Newcastle and ACT.

 

[flippikat]

The more Sydney-centric they make it, the more appealing AwFuL will become in Queensland, Newcastle and ACT.

OR rugby union.

Keep in mind that RU is lining-up a new "Super 12" - 5 Aussie teams (including Perth), 5 NZ teams, 2 Pacific teams, and now South Africa is out of the picture, there's less of a roadblock to adding more rule changes that make RU more "league-like".

 

[Pippen94]

If 9 clubs are going to be travelling far more than the other 9 then what does the ARLC do to compensate them?

By the end of the season the Non-Sydney clubs will be buggered from all the travel, so will be at a massive disadvantage come finals time.

The more Sydney-centric they make it, the more appealing AwFuL will become in Queensland, Newcastle and ACT.

Knights should be in NSW conference & maybe even raiders. More qld teams playing each other more often would help game up there

 

[juro]

It is simply wrong and totally unfair to have all Sydney teams in 1 pool and all non-Sydney teams in another. You also need to have teams playing teams from outside their pool.

I would prefer (if they expand to 18 teams and go with pools) for 3 pools of 6. Each team would play against their own pool twice, then all teams in other pools once. This gives 22 games for the season.

Pools could be:

1. Northern
a - Broncos
b - Cowboys
c - Titans
d - Brisbane2
e, f - 2 Sydney teams

2. Southern
a - Storm
b - Warriors
c - Raiders or NZ2
d, e, f - 3 Sydney teams

3. Central
a - Knights
b - Raiders or Perth
c, d, e, f - 4 Sydney teams

Then you could go with top 2 from each pool qualifying directly, plus competition placing for remaining spots in the finals.

 

[MugaB]

It is simply wrong and totally unfair to have all Sydney teams in 1 pool and all non-Sydney teams in another. You also need to have teams playing teams from outside their pool.

I would prefer (if they expand to 18 teams and go with pools) for 3 pools of 6. Each team would play against their own pool twice, then all teams in other pools once. This gives 22 games for the season.

Pools could be:

1. Northern
a - Broncos
b - Cowboys
c - Titans
d - Brisbane2
e, f - 2 Sydney teams

2. Southern
a - Storm
b - Warriors
c - Raiders or NZ2
d, e, f - 3 Sydney teams

3. Central
a - Knights
b - Raiders or Perth
c, d, e, f - 4 Sydney teams

Then you could go with top 2 from each pool qualifying directly, plus competition placing for remaining spots in the finals.

Little bit confusing, a north vs south would be way simpler

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

OR rugby union.

Keep in mind that RU is lining-up a new "Super 12" - 5 Aussie teams (including Perth), 5 NZ teams, 2 Pacific teams, and now South Africa is out of the picture, there's less of a roadblock to adding more rule changes that make RU more "league-like".

That definitely would convert many Pacific Islanders in Australia to RU.

Knights should be in NSW conference & maybe even raiders. More qld teams playing each other more often would help game up there

There would need to be a 3rd Brisbane team, and I don't see any evidence or the ARLC admitting one.

 

[Pippen94]

That definitely would convert many Pacific Islanders in Australia to RU.



There would need to be a 3rd Brisbane team, and I don't see any evidence or the ARLC admitting one.

Brisbane #2 & nz#2 this expansion
Brisbane #3 & Perth next

 

[flippikat]

Brisbane #2 & nz#2 this expansion
Brisbane #3 & Perth next

With Adelaide ear-marked as a relocation target for a Sydney club?

 

[Pippen94]

With Adelaide ear-marked as a relocation target for a Sydney club?

No

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Brisbane #2 & nz#2 this expansion
Brisbane #3 & Perth next

I like the sound of this, but at least one Sydney team would need to relocate to Adelaide to help our game grow over the next 30 years.

8 teams in Sydney is better than 9, especially if it helps decongest an oversaturated area like Southern Sydney. If Dragons were to remain and Sharks went to Adelaide then they would be far stronger in 20-30 years.

 

[Pippen94]

I like the sound of this, but at least one Sydney team would need to relocate to Adelaide to help our game grow over the next 30 years.

8 teams in Sydney is better than 9, especially if it helps decongest an oversaturated area like Southern Sydney. If Dragons were to remain and Sharks went to Adelaide then they would be far stronger in 20-30 years.

Sydney fastest growing place in country (give or take with Melbourne). Adelaide not growing at all.
For conferences to work non Sydney part needs to be seen as quasi qld comp.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Sydney fastest growing place in country (give or take with Melbourne). Adelaide not growing at all.
For conferences to work non Sydney part needs to be seen as quasi qld comp.

Southern Sydney (St George and Sutherland) only has 500k people, yet it has 2 teams that would go bust without the annual grant. PVL just bailed the Sharks out while everyone else on the ARLC wanted to punt the buggers to a new city. St George were in the shit a few years ago. There just aren't enough people in this area to support 2 teams and any further population growth will be made up of migrants who don't care about our game. Keep the Dragons and promote them to the East Asian community, and send the Sharks to Adelaide.

 

[Santino Patane]

Sydney fastest growing place in country (give or take with Melbourne). Adelaide not growing at all.
For conferences to work non Sydney part needs to be seen as quasi qld comp.

Straight from Australian Bureau of Statistics, Melbourne is gross largest, Brisbane is per capita.

 

[blue bags]

its a joke

 

[Pippen94]

Southern Sydney (St George and Sutherland) only has 500k people, yet it has 2 teams that would go bust without the annual grant. PVL just bailed the Sharks out while everyone else on the ARLC wanted to punt the buggers to a new city. St George were in the shit a few years ago. There just aren't enough people in this area to support 2 teams and any further population growth will be made up of migrants who don't care about our game. Keep the Dragons and promote them to the East Asian community, and send the Sharks to Adelaide.

You probably know living in Brisbane that dragons have many fans living outside that area. Can see merger creating super club at some stage but those Sydney teams & viewers they gain are reason NRL has big broadcast deal

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You probably know living in Brisbane that dragons have many fans living outside that area. Can see merger creating super club at some stage but those Sydney teams & viewers they gain are reason NRL has big broadcast deal

Which is why Dragons should be given the licence to take over all of Southern Sydney and Illawarra. They are better equipped than the Sharks to become a club that can generate 30k members and attendances of 25k.

Sharks in Perth or Adelaide could become bigger than what they are at present.

Without Broncos or Storm the TV rights would nosedive as ratings in Brisbane and Melbourne would fall off a cliff. Relocate Cronulla, Canterbury and Manly to large metro areas unrepresented at present and the rights will be worth far more in 20 years time than they will be if things stay the same, as they will add new viewers to the game in markets that are important to advertisers. As much as I hate Broncos and Storm, I cannot deny their importance to the broadcast deal. I actually have a soft spot for Cronulla and Canterbury and go for them when they're playing Brisbane, Melbourne and other Sydney teams, but if the time comes that they have to relocate for the game to survive, then so be it.

 

[Pippen94]

Which is why Dragons should be given the licence to take over all of Southern Sydney and Illawarra. They are better equipped than the Sharks to become a club that can generate 30k members and attendances of 25k.

Sharks in Perth or Adelaide could become bigger than what they are at present.

Without Broncos or Storm the TV rights would nosedive as ratings in Brisbane and Melbourne would fall off a cliff. Relocate Cronulla, Canterbury and Manly to large metro areas unrepresented at present and the rights will be worth far more in 20 years time than they will be if things stay the same, as they will add new viewers to the game in markets that are important to advertisers. As much as I hate Broncos and Storm, I cannot deny their importance to the broadcast deal. I actually have a soft spot for Cronulla and Canterbury and go for them when they're playing Brisbane, Melbourne and other Sydney teams, but if the time comes that they have to relocate for the game to survive, then so be it.

Bulldogs one of the biggest brands in NRL. Sharks have a smaller fanbase but maybe more concentrated than any in Sydney - lose them & risk losing area.
There are two main cities which watch NRL & that will probably always be the case. A place like Melbourne only boasts numbers for finals.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Bulldogs one of the biggest brands in NRL. Sharks have a smaller fanbase but maybe more concentrated than any in Sydney - lose them & risk losing area.
There are two main cities which watch NRL & that will probably always be the case. A place like Melbourne only boasts numbers for finals.

You're right about Melbourne, but those extra eyeballs watching the GF is invaluable to the commercial networks, which makes the broadcast rights more lucrative. AwFuL have overtaken us by adding eyeballs from Brisbane and Sydney to their GF. We need to do the same with Adelaide and Perth if we wish to regain our spot as the most watched game in the country.

Bulldogs have been a big brand, but there's no guarantee they will be in 20 years. Changing demographics and being geographically sandwiched by the Tigers from their west and east will lead to them becoming one of Sydney's weaker clubs over the next 20 years.