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NRL's Fullbacks - Your top 5 selection

RifRaf

Juniors
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westie said:
Tommy Smith, mate no offense, but you must be as stupid/drunk as your namesake.

You seem quite convinced of Mini's superior kick return ability:

Tommy Smith said:
Hodgson is not incredibly safe at the back. He dropped more bombs than Minichiello and his defence is very suspect. He might be safe but certainly not "incredibly safe".And to say his kick returns are just as, if not more potent than Minichiello's is just laughable. The men in white coats will be on their way around to your house once they read that.Mini is without doubt the best kick returner. That's his trademark, the thing that separates him from all the other players in the world. The stats say so, i.e. tackle breaks, metres gained and so does the footage if you actually watch games from an unbiased viewpoint.

Tommy Smith said:
He makes a hell of a lot more tackle breaks than any other FB.

I have some interesting stats for you.

* Hodgo makes 9.3 mts/hit-up to Mini's 8.5 mts/hit-up which equates to just under 10% more mts/hit-up. RESULT: Hodgo > Mini.

* Hodgo also made more linesbreaks than Mini. Hodgo made .06 linebreaks/hit-up to Mini's .04 linebreaks/hit-up. That means Hodgo made a staggering 50% more linebreaks/hit-up than Mini. RESULT: Hodgo > Mini.

* Minichiello made 15% more errors than Hodgo during '04. Mini also missed a few more tackles. RESULT: Hodgo > Mini.

The stats do infact show that Hodgo is the more potent attacker in terms of line breaks and metres resulting from these breaks. As I said, Mini rarely hits space like Hodgo, Bowen, Slater. The stats also show that he is safer at the back also highlighting the possibility that Hodgo should play FB in rep sides with Mini on the wing. This is also made more possible following the retirement of Sing.

Now I will get to the stats reffering to Hodgo's mid-feild attacking ability.

* Hodgson assisted 8 trys in '04 800% more than Minichiello. RESULT: Hodgo > Mini.

* Hodgson made 33 kicks in general play during '04 300% more than MinichielloRESULT: Hodgo > Mini.

Brett was also the 3rd highest point scorer in the NRL playing in, as Simon said, a crap side. The mind boggles at what he could have done in a side like the Roosters. If there were a stat for the biggest heart or the most valuable to a team, Brett would be, as usual, at the top of the chart once again.

Both players are very good fullbacks in their own right. The option of playing Minichiello on the wing provides the opportunity to play two exceptional players in the one team.

What were you saying about the men in the white coats Tommy Smith? RESULT: Tommy Smith: poorly misinformed and dilluded.

Tommy Smith = OWNED
 

Rise Against

Guest
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westie said:
Tommy Smith, mate no offense, but you must be as stupid/drunk as your namesake.

You seem quite convinced of Mini's superior kick return ability:

Tommy Smith said:
Hodgson is not incredibly safe at the back. He dropped more bombs than Minichiello and his defence is very suspect. He might be safe but certainly not "incredibly safe".And to say his kick returns are just as, if not more potent than Minichiello's is just laughable. The men in white coats will be on their way around to your house once they read that.Mini is without doubt the best kick returner. That's his trademark, the thing that separates him from all the other players in the world. The stats say so, i.e. tackle breaks, metres gained and so does the footage if you actually watch games from an unbiased viewpoint.

Tommy Smith said:
He makes a hell of a lot more tackle breaks than any other FB.

I have some interesting stats for you.

* Hodgo makes 9.3 mts/hit-up to Mini's 8.5 mts/hit-up which equates to just under 10% more mts/hit-up. RESULT: Hodgo > Mini.

* Hodgo also made more linesbreaks than Mini. Hodgo made .06 linebreaks/hit-up to Mini's .04 linebreaks/hit-up. That means Hodgo made a staggering 50% more linebreaks/hit-up than Mini. RESULT: Hodgo > Mini.

* Minichiello made 15% more errors than Hodgo during '04. Mini also missed a few more tackles. RESULT: Hodgo > Mini.

The stats do infact show that Hodgo is the more potent attacker in terms of line breaks and metres resulting from these breaks. As I said, Mini rarely hits space like Hodgo, Bowen, Slater. The stats also show that he is safer at the back also highlighting the possibility that Hodgo should play FB in rep sides with Mini on the wing. This is also made more possible following the retirement of Sing.

Now I will get to the stats reffering to Hodgo's mid-feild attacking ability.

* Hodgson assisted 8 trys in '04 800% more than Minichiello. RESULT: Hodgo > Mini.

* Hodgson made 33 kicks in general play during '04 300% more than MinichielloRESULT: Hodgo > Mini.

Brett was also the 3rd highest point scorer in the NRL playing in, as Simon said, a crap side. The mind boggles at what he could have done in a side like the Roosters. If there were a stat for the biggest heart or the most valuable to a team, Brett would be, as usual, at the top of the chart once again.

Both players are very good fullbacks in their own right. The option of playing Minichiello on the wing provides the opportunity to play two exceptional players in the one team.

What were you saying about the men in the white coats Tommy Smith? RESULT: Tommy Smith: poorly misinformed and dilluded.

Tommy Smith = Owned

in saying that, id still prefer minichello, esp on tri nations form

sorry westie
 

Kris_man

Bench
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westie - how about performance in rep games? Minichiello steps up, it's fantastic. also, he's been good over a number of seasons now, whereas Brett Hodgson went very quiet in 2003.
 
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1. Minichiello
2. Hornby
3. Schifcofske
4. Hodgson
5. Slater

If you're taking attack AND defense into account, that should be an accurate representation. Bowen's unlucky to miss out as he is an awesome player and great to watch, but defensively he's not as good as the others.
 

westie

Bench
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Kris_man said:
westie - how about performance in rep games? Minichiello steps up, it's fantastic. also, he's been good over a number of seasons now, whereas Brett Hodgson went very quiet in 2003.

Brett was injured for most of '03. He did play very well in origin '02 before once again becomming injured. Like I said, I would prefer to have both in my team.
 

God-King Dean

Immortal
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1.Minichello
2.Schifcofske
3.Hodgeson
4.Hornby
5.Bowen/Wesser- It's neck & neck with these 2, attacking wise Bowen is definately the better player, but his defence has a lot to be desired. 40-50% of his attempted tackles are missed
 

Special K

Coach
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Schifcofske :lol: ... Are we talking about the same bloke who dogs the bombs and cost the raiders big time in the finals with the one of the dumbest plays of the season?

1. Minichello
2. Bowen
3. Slater
4. Patten
5. Hunt (Was a major spark for the broncos this year and if he didn't turn his back so to speak ok the kiwis then you would all love him still)

Hodgson would be 6th and is good but I'd rather the above players to him any day of the week.He is solid but those above are all solid and on their day can be game breakers.

Though in saying all of this, Lockyer was the best fullback I have seen and would be number one on that list if he made a return to the number 1.
 

Detox

Juniors
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Special K said:
5. Hunt (Was a major spark for the broncos this year and if he didn't turn his back so to speak ok the kiwis then you would all love him still)

I find it poor people dislike Karmichael Hunt because he didn't want to play for New Zealand.

Just a few stats for some of you, Hunt came to Australia when he was 12, Hunt also played all his junior matches in Australia with Australia spending alot of money to produce him.

He says, New Zealand is his pride but Australia is the country that made him.

Karmichael seems to be a great bloke, talks to the fans etc, stops and chats to people when he is in the shopping centre etc.

He's only 18 recently, people need to cut him some slack in my opinion.
 

CliffyIsGod

First Grade
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Why are so many people putting Clinton so high?

He can't kick goals any more, isn't as quick as Mini, Bowen, Stewart etc and doesn't score any where near as many tries as these guys.

His only plus in defence, not at which there are others who are better than him.
 
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