NSW 2020 - the Gospel According to Freddy

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  1. TheFrog

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    All this shit is just fish and chip wrappers.
     
  2. TheFrog

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    I think there was a reason they made Tedesco vice captain mid-series and this might be it.
     
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  3. Legion

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    It's beyond me how Moylan was ever chosen for a rep team. The bloke is a dead-set handicap.
    At least Pearce is a good defender, backs up & isn't in the habit of throwing 'no-look' passes over the side-line.
     
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    He won a lot of games for us in the period from 2013 to 2017. He was an extremely dangerous ball-playing fullback at that time and still is when he's on but his best Origin performance was at five-eighth. His form has suffered in recent times with hamstring problems and lack of commitment to his career. I thought Flanagan had improved his defence last year but that seems to have fallen by the wayside now.
     
  5. Legion

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    Yes I remember how he showed moments of brilliance but if a fullback is in the habit of missing tackles then he's a liability.
    My memory is not as good as yours but IIRC he's never been a complete player due to too many errors in his game. He's just gotten worse over time.

    "Lack of commitment to his career"? Yep. It's called a bad attitude that at a guess stems from him thinking that he's all that & some.
     
  6. TheFrog

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    Natural talent only takes you so far.
     
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    Typical Queensland. From today's Sydney Morning Herald -

    Further from Channel 9's wwos website -

    Typical bannana benders, want the rules changed yet again just to give them an advantage. They can go get f'ed as far as I am concerned!
     
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    Did Luke Keary not play for 6 weeks due to concussions? I always thought it was convenient how he missed the entire origin period. He may have been available for game 1 but I don’t think he’s ever been comfortable being branded a blue. Too bad for him if that’s true.
     
  9. Reflector

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    I'd rather see Origin die than Keary be re-classified as a Maroon.
     
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    If Keary wants to be a Maroon, I say f**k him. Let him go.

    Hope he has an Origin career worse than Pearce.
     
  11. Captain Apollo

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    Mate, he was concussed. No way the Roosters would stand him down for 6 weeks just so he'd avoid playing Origin, especially if you look at how many losses they've had whilst he's been out.
     
  12. Albert Rosenfeld

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    The ideal NSW Blues halves combo for 2020 is Luke Keary and Mitchell Pearce.

    Nathan Cleary is overrated, and Jimmy Maloney will be over the hill (or in Perpignan) next year
     
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    Pearce will only get a shot if all other halves have broken their leg.
     
  14. Legion

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    Cleary is still very young and still learning his craft.
    I'm not a fan of promoting young guys just because of their potential.

    Cleary should never have been picked for Origin. Too soon.

    Last night he played really well against a Cronulla team that had a shocker.
    He will develop into an excellent player given time.

    If he continues to develop and play consistently good football, I'd have him pencilled in for Origin the year after next.
     
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    As a Penrith junior, Brad Fittler despised Western Sydney rivals Parramatta. Not anymore.

    The NSW State of Origin coach has singled out the Eels as his treasure chest for the Blues with up to seven Parramatta players on his radar for this year’s series.

    And remarkably, Fittler has included a 115kg 19-year-old forward who has never played NRL — and who reminds him of Test forward David Klemmer — as part of his blue and gold ensemble.

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    [​IMG]Fittler and Kevin Walters launch Origin 2020 at Adelaide Oval. Photo: Mark Brake/Getty Images)
    Not since 1983 have the Eels boasted more than five players in an Origin match for NSW, but Fittler has declared 2020 could be a historic season for Brad Arthur’s side.

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    Fittler nominated Parramatta’s outstanding crop of talent including Mitchell Moses, Ryan Matterson, Clint Gutherson, Regan Campbell-Gillard, Nathan Brown, rookie Stefano Utoikamanu and incumbent winger Blake Fergsuon as genuine contenders for the Blues this year.

    [​IMG]Ray Price, Peter Sterling, Brett Kenny, Mick Cronin, Steve Ella, Eric Grothe and Neil Hunt after their selection in NSW team in 1983.
    “Parramatta, they’re the team we’re looking out for,’’ Fittler said in Adelaide on Tuesday.

    Never one to stop short of giving his most honest assessment, the Blues coach used the launch of ticket sales for Origin I, which will be played at Adelaide Oval on June 3, to outline the Eels prospects.

    “Obviously there’s Mitchell (Moses), Ryan (Matterson), Gutho (Gutherson) was a big part of our team last year — he was 18th man for a couple of games — and Reagan Campbell-Gillard has gone there now.

    “He made such a big impact, but broke his jaw not long after his [Origin] game (in 2018).’’

    Campbell-Gillard has spoken this week about his number one goal being a return to the Origin arena.

    Fittler said Ferguson was superb in the Blues’ series win over Queensland last year. But it’s 115kg teenager Utoikamanu that Fittler reserved special mention.

    [​IMG]Eels rookie forward Stefano Utoikamanu could be a Blues bolter. Photo: Benjamin Cuevas
    “There’s a lot of talk about young Stefano Utoikamanu,’’ Fittler said.

    “I’ve been a part of all the [NSW] pathways and watched Stefano come through, so I’m really looking forward to seeing how he evolves. He had a couple of bad injuries.

    “He’s like a (David) Klemmer, Payne (Hass), maybe not as mobile as Payne, but he’s a good player. He was the best player as they were coming through.’’

    A club record eight Parramatta players represented NSW in Origin II in 1983 — Mick Cronin, Steve Ella, Eric Grothe, Neil Hunt, Stan Jurd, Brett Kenny and Ray Price.

    Fittler said his insight into the Eels’ ability to dominate NSW Origin selection was due to the acute insight he had received from close friend and NSW assistant coach Andrew Johns, who is also a member of the blue and gold coaching staff.

    his could be Moses’s year to shine for NSW. Photo: Matt King/Getty Images
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    “I spoke to [Johns on Monday],’’ Fittler said. “And he was talking about a few different players. He was talking about Dylan Brown because he does a lot with him, but he said Mitchell (Moses) looks fantastic.’’

    Fittler said the key to the Blues’ ability to repel an Origin series fightback from the Maroons would be drawn from the success of not only Parramatta in 2020, but each of the eight Sydney-based teams.

    “A big reason we have evolved is the fact that two years ago the Sydney teams started to win,’’ Fittler said.

    “St George Illawarra did really well, Penrith, Manly, Cronulla and Parramatta did well and of course, the Roosters. That’s what I want to see.’’
     
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    Looks like Eels will have 7 or 8 players in the NSW team this Junior Paulo should be the starting prop with Haas
     
  17. Legion

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    Bitches Poses for Origin? What is Freddy thinking?
    Talk about a turd in the punch-bowl. Maybe the kid gives good head but really, Freddy needs to pick players for their talent on the field rather than whether they swallow or not.

    And @Rhyno , it's just wonderful that you still get a nice warm glow from what happened way back in 1983 [It must help you forget about all those wooden spoons since] but really, the past has nothing to do with contemporary times.

    Off course Freddy will talk up Parra - and the Dragons, the Sharks, Penrith, Manly & the other Sydney teams - because he's the NSW Origin coach & must appear supportive.
    But you know, I guess you need to gain solace from wherever you can. It must be hard to remain upbeat with a turd like Bitches in your side.
     
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    2 in a row and we're already sick of winning.
     
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    They'll be lucky to get one.
     
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