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NSW Team 2014

Tone83

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How can A.Reynolds be a look next year, he was average this year.
Mullen and Carney are and were nsw best halves this year and last year
I guess Mullen could have a turn, I'm not that attached to the A. Reynolds Idea. But I will say I don't think I've ever seen anyone mention the word "Mullen" in a post without having a newcastle knights logo in their signature. Just sayin'.
 

Rod

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I guess Mullen could have a turn, I'm not that attached to the A. Reynolds Idea. But I will say I don't think I've ever seen anyone mention the word "Mullen" in a post without having a newcastle knights logo in their signature. Just sayin'.

Mullen gets his share of mentions on here but I reckon half the reason he doesn't get more is because his name isn't dropped every 5 minutes by the rugby league 'experts' (commentators and columnists), like Sutton, Maloney and Josh Reynolds are.

In the weeks leading up to Origin 2014 if Mullen were to be talked up by the media to the degree that Maloney was before the 2013 series not many people would bat an eyelid if he were picked.
 

Joker's Wild

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I guess Mullen could have a turn, I'm not that attached to the A. Reynolds Idea. But I will say I don't think I've ever seen anyone mention the word "Mullen" in a post without having a newcastle knights logo in their signature. Just sayin'.

Eyes painted on?

Look straight above your post
 
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chrisD

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Hayne at centre makes sense when Slater and Inglis are in the team. Hayne at centre for f**king Dugan is about the level of stupidity I'd expect from Daley and the specials here.
 

Mr Angry

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Hayne is NSW best back. He should be in the spine.

Play the Morris Brothers together, Jennings and whichever winger is in good form.
 

Tone83

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Hayne at centre makes sense when Slater and Inglis are in the team. Hayne at centre for f**king Dugan is about the level of stupidity I'd expect from Daley and the specials here.
Yeah I'm not comfortable with that either. The Fb should be your best outside back. I would have Duges on the wing though, Hayne at FB, Hopoate and Jennings at centre. I guess Bmoz on the other wing, don't rate his talent but like Tate his effort and consistent performances make it hard not to stick with him. It is a very nice looking back 5 no matter how you look at it. Qld won't match it, which is a big shift.
 

Helmet Man

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They would be potentially great in attack.. but both those combos would get brutalised in defence
Albert Kelly is fantastic in defence. Makes the best one on one tackles you will see from a halfback.
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Helmet Man

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Carney/Kelly out of those, don't second guess yourself. Maloney is not even a good nrl player, let alone a good origin player.

If Kelly doesn't have a barn burning start to next season I will concede he's still too green, but I wouldn't then say Maloney is the man. A Carney/a.Reynolds pairing would be the right call, with Kelly at 14 and with the intent of preparing him for the years to come. What's certain is pearce/maloney sucks, and also they both suck and neither of them can be included.
A Reynolds i dont think is quite the man for origin. Good club player without a doubt but we all saw how easily he goes missing in big games such as the all stars match. We can't afford to go with a halfback that can't take control of the game. Mullen would be the better choice but thru my judgement i always group Mullen/A Reynolds/Pearce together. They are all good club players but are just one dimensional wen it comes to Origin and rep games. Same can be said for Cooper Cronk. He seems like a lost cause in Origin despite him being a star performer in the NRL. This is why i would rather lean towards players like Josh Reynolds or Albert Kelly as potential Origin candidates. Albert to me lifts wen he needs to and takes control of the game. Has a lot of variety in his game. Having him, Hayne, Farah together in the spine working their magic with Carney taking control of the game and with Jennings out wide would be absolutely devastating. It would also be a very balanced spine as well as everyone will have a clear role in the team.
 
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Tone83

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Albert is the future for sure, whether it all comes to a head in 2014 remains to be seen. I hope so.
Carney and Kelly looks like the elite pairing if all goes well.
 

Helmet Man

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Albert is the future for sure, whether it all comes to a head in 2014 remains to be seen. I hope so.
Carney and Kelly looks like the elite pairing if all goes well.
And i expect Kelly to be off to a flying start to the season. Think abt it this way. He had Carty coaching him last season and Carty really isn't a halves specialist and he was still able to pull off great performances. It just goes to show the amount of talent he possesses.

With the inclusion of Neil Henry into the coaching department he will get specific attention. Henry specifically said he will take care of Alby and Sezer and with Henry previously coaching the likes of JT he will be able to incorporate some of the things he did with JT and pass it on to Alby.

Exciting times ahead for Albert Kelly fans...
 

Tone83

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Albert Kelly won't ever play origin.
NSW is racist for sure but sometimes when an indigenous player is 10000 % better than his white contempories they are forced to bite the bullet and reluctantly select said player. Kelly is that much better than his white contempories, so I have no doubt he will play origin. Mind you if he has one average game they will immediately jump on the excuse to drop him and then stick with it forever, probably putting pearce back in to replace him. That's how the blues roll.
 
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And i expect Kelly to be off to a flying start to the season. Think abt it this way. He had Carty coaching him last season and Carty really isn't a halves specialist and he was still able to pull off great performances. It just goes to show the amount of talent he possesses.

With the inclusion of Neil Henry into the coaching department he will get specific attention. Henry specifically said he will take care of Alby and Sezer and with Henry previously coaching the likes of JT he will be able to incorporate some of the things he did with JT and pass it on to Alby.

Exciting times ahead for Albert Kelly fans...
:lol::lol::lol:
A player who is born with natural talent ,who plays what is in front of him,Reacts on instinct is not coached by anyone...
If you think henry somehow made JT a champion player you are dreaming.
Jt was all class long before Henry got to NQ.
 

hardbaby

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Yeah I'm not comfortable with that either. The Fb should be your best outside back. I would have Duges on the wing though, Hayne at FB

Hayne is such a gifted player you can play him anywhere. Dugan is much less versatile but suited to Origin in his natural position. Dugan is super physical and busts an enormous number of tackles. With him at fullback you are guaranteed great starts to every set and you need that when you are up against that incredible QLD kicking game. Stewart, for all his positives, was rag dolled. Hayne is wasted on the wing but I really like the look of him at centre.
 

Tone83

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Duges is a good ball runner and possibly even better than hayne at kick returns (on average, slightly), but that's it.
More important than that IMO is safety, having someone at the back who you know will save the day if it's humanly possible. Contrary to his legend, Duges is merely human. Hayne is not. He's exactly the kind of superhuman you want at fb in origin.
There could easily be a gameplan for duges to support hayne on kick returns and even for hayne to pass to him so he can do hit ups on kick returns. To me that doesn't justify removing Hayne from the 1 spot.

I think it would be a lot to ask of Duges too. The scrutiny and pressure would be so immense blunders would be inevitable. Best to leave him on the wing. It's ideal to have 3 fbs as your back 3 anyway.
 

mxlegend99

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Duges is an 8/10 fullback. Capable of 9.5/10 performances. Hayne can be a 9.5/10 player anywhere in the backline. Right centre has no player who can be better then 8/10. So the team is stronger if you stick Hayne in our weakest backline position and select our second best fullback in his best position.

Hayne at right centre also adds spark to our right winger. That's effectively strengthening two positions by slightly weakening 1. Even then Duges has the. 9.5/10 game breaking potential.
 

Joker's Wild

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Right centre is NSW biggest weakness outside of the halves. Its made worse by Qlds most potent player being at left centre

Im in two minds about where to play Hayne tbh. I think we need to see where Hoppa plays and how he performs
 

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