NSW Team 2017

[Tweed Titan]

I didn't say they weren't trying but clearly they aren't as motivated in a dead rubber.

So you agree the Australian team isn't picked on form, good to know.

Yet again it's everyone elses fault but Moylan's that he is in rubbish form



If reynolds was an 8 last year than yes, pearce has been 7 or above plenty of times. He has had shit games, no argument.

I don't really care what you have rated him TBH.

The whole team was diabolical against the broncos. What's your point?



I didn't say that



Again i didn't say that but keep clutching at those straws.



So?

You clearly said Myth is the best halfback in NSW but I refuted that and stated Maloney is - No response from you for that right.

A bit rich Mr "it's a team sport" is happy to use that to defend Shitchell in sky blue but expects Moylan to be killing it for the Panthers in a beaten pack.

The Panthers were also fairly diabolical against the Broncos but Moylan played well, Shitchell didn't. THAT'S my point.

I don't really care if you don't like how I rated Pearce's Origin performances. They are the truth. Funny though that you put your fingers in your ears and use the nah nah I can't hear you defense for your boy.

Maloney is the best halfback in NSW. What do you have to say in regards to that statement/fact?

 

[myrrh ken]

There's only room for one groping rooster. Which one will it be?

 

[umina panther]

Hahahahahaha Myth Piss at it again

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

I didn't say they weren't trying but clearly they aren't as motivated in a dead rubber.

So you agree the Australian team isn't picked on form, good to know.

Yet again it's everyone elses fault but Moylan's that he is in rubbish form


So?

Based on what? Queensland haven't managed to achieve a whitewash in over a decade, do you not think they would be motivated for one? Maybe you didn't see that incredible effort that Cronk put in to chase down teddy and pull him down 1m from the line, if that doesn't epitomise motivation, idk what does.

Anyways Queensland had won like how many years in a row and Pearce was never able to help break that streak. That's when they probably weren't motivated considering they had done it time and time over but Pearce failed.

Yes the Australian team isn't picked on form because because Mel Meniga (the most successful coach in origin history) understands that form doesn't mean anything especially when it's April - premierships areant handed in April. There's more important factors like players who have been there before and have performed - like Moylan.

Moylan isn't in good form because his team isn't playing well. It's not everyone else's fault, it's the teams fault collectively including Moylan but you can't single out one person and expect him to play well when everyone else isn't.

So?

So it's pretty simple, the Roosters have had an easy run to start the season - it's not hard to look good against crap teams.

 

[Valheru]

You clearly said Myth is the best halfback in NSW but I refuted that and stated Maloney is - No response from you for that right.

A bit rich Mr "it's a team sport" is happy to use that to defend Shitchell in sky blue but expects Moylan to be killing it for the Panthers in a beaten pack.

The Panthers were also fairly diabolical against the Broncos but Moylan played well, Shitchell didn't. THAT'S my point.

I don't really care if you don't like how I rated Pearce's Origin performances. They are the truth. Funny though that you put your fingers in your ears and use the nah nah I can't hear you defense for your boy.

Maloney is the best halfback in NSW. What do you have to say in regards to that statement/fact?

He is the best halfback option, better than Maloney who is the best 5/8 option.

I didn't defend Mitchell's performance against Brisbane.

I didn't say i don't like how you rate him, just that i don't care how you rate him. Respond to what i am saying, not what you think i am saying

Based on what? Queensland haven't managed to achieve a whitewash in over a decade, do you not think they would be motivated for one? Maybe you didn't see that incredible effort that Cronk put in to chase down teddy and pull him down 1m from the line, if that doesn't epitomise motivation, idk what does.

Anyways Queensland had won like how many years in a row and Pearce was never able to help break that streak. That's when they probably weren't motivated considering they had done it time and time over but Pearce failed.

Yes the Australian team isn't picked on form because because Mel Meniga (the most successful coach in origin history) understands that form doesn't mean anything especially when it's April - premierships areant handed in April. There's more important factors like players who have been there before and have performed - like Moylan.

Moylan isn't in good form because his team isn't playing well. It's not everyone else's fault, it's the teams fault collectively including Moylan but you can't single out one person and expect him to play well when everyone else isn't.

So?

So it's pretty simple, the Roosters have had an easy run to start the season - it's not hard to look good against crap teams.

Not sure how 2010 is over a decade ago but anyways... the stats for live games as opposed to dead rubbers are easy to find. Look them up and you will see my point.

The Australian team was picked based on last year's 4 nations due to combinations etc.

Moylan has been ordinary this year, it's a fact.

We we are 2/4 against top 8 sides and 4/5 against the rest. Who would have thought top 8 sides provide stiffer competition? We aren't actually debating the merits of the 2017 roosters so not sure why you keep bringing it up?

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

Not sure how 2010 is over a decade ago but anyways... the stats for live games as opposed to dead rubbers are easy to find. Look them up and you will see my point.

The Australian team was picked based on last year's 4 nations due to combinations etc.

Moylan has been ordinary this year, it's a fact.

We we are 2/4 against top 8 sides and 4/5 against the rest. Who would have thought top 8 sides provide stiffer competition? We aren't actually debating the merits of the 2017 roosters so not sure why you keep bringing it up?

My mistake, 2010 was a clean sweep, guess who the halfback for that game was? Why don't you bring up these stats for me since you're the one barking about them.

So it was just because of last years combinations? Not combinations over previous years in other teams? Surely there would have been more Queenslanders in the team right? Or is there something special about last years 4nations?

Again, what can he do behind a struggling team? Is he meant to singlehandidly win then the game?

I'm bringing up the level of competition that the roosters have played against because it would make the roosters look better then they are against bad quality teams and inturn make their players look good like Pearce.

 

[umina panther]

The point everyone really needs to remember is that Myth Piss is garbage

 

[Valheru]

My mistake, 2010 was a clean sweep, guess who the halfback for that game was? Why don't you bring up these stats for me since you're the one barking about them.

So it was just because of last years combinations? Not combinations over previous years in other teams? Surely there would have been more Queenslanders in the team right? Or is there something special about last years 4nations?

Again, what can he do behind a struggling team? Is he meant to singlehandidly win then the game?

I'm bringing up the level of competition that the roosters have played against because it would make the roosters look better then they are against bad quality teams and inturn make their players look good like Pearce.

Ok since 2006 QLD lead 20-8 in live games. Dead rubbers it is 3-2 to NSW. Get it yet?

Mal has been on record as saying last year's 4 nations team will be picked for continuity and changes, if warranted, will be made for the world cup. I am not sure why you keep arguing this fact.

It is ironic you point to a struggling team when defending moylan when pearce copped sole blame for 2015 game 3.

So we are yet to play 3 teams from both top and bottom 8 after 9 games. That seems a standard draw to me. Should the roosters play top 8 teams every week?

 

[umina panther]

Ok since 2006 QLD lead 20-8 in live games. Dead rubbers it is 3-2 to NSW. Get it yet?

Mal has been on record as saying last year's 4 nations team will be picked for continuity and changes, if warranted, will be made for the world cup. I am not sure why you keep arguing this fact.

It is ironic you point to a struggling team when defending moylan when pearce copped sole blame for 2015 game 3.

So we are yet to play 3 teams from both top and bottom 8 after 9 games. That seems a standard draw to me. Should the roosters play top 8 teams every week?

Get that Myth is a complete failure at this level? You can see it in his eyes when he plays too. He knows hes not up to it

 

[Tweed Titan]

So if we are only talking about "live" games do we note how bad your boy has done in them?

Seeing as though Hodkinson and J Reynolds won their 2/2 what does that leave Myth's record? 6/18 lol lol lol

Either way if we are talking about live games or dead rubbers it weakens your arguement. Seeing as though Hodkinson and J Reynolds lost their 1/1.

I don't care if you don't rate my assessments of his performance as you are so biased. I have no reason to favor either player other than on performance. Pretty sure thr concensus agree with me too on his Origin performances to date.

 

[Valheru]

So if we are only talking about "live" games do we note how bad your boy has done in them?

Seeing as though Hodkinson and J Reynolds won their 2/2 what does that leave Myth's record? 6/18 lol lol lol

Either way if we are talking about live games or dead rubbers it weakens your arguement. Seeing as though Hodkinson and J Reynolds lost their 1/1.

I don't care if you don't rate my assessments of his performance as you are so biased. I have no reason to favor either player other than on performance. Pretty sure thr concensus agree with me too on his Origin performances to date.

It doesn't weaken my argument. My argument is that QLD have a far better record in live games so pointing to Moylan's performance in a dead rubber last year as justification for selecting him is poor logic. Again, respond to what i am saying, not what you want me to say.

 

[Tweed Titan]

He is the best halfback option, better than Maloney who is the best 5/8 option

No Maloney is the best 5/8 AND the best halfback option. Seeing as though we have a dearth of decent 7's but some good 5/8 options it's pretty simple. We pick our best 5/8 to go with Maloney.

Moylan is also the incumbent and pretty much played better on debut than Pearce has EVER managed in 15 games. That says it all pretty much really.

You try to discredit his performance in game three but all it shows is your Pearce agenda.

That Origin game didn't count because it was a dead rubber - Valheru

 

[Valheru]

No Maloney is the best 5/8 AND the best halfback option. Seeing as though we have a dearth of decent 7's but some good 5/8 options it's pretty simple. We pick our best 5/8 to go with Maloney.

Moylan is also the incumbent and pretty much played better on debut than Pearce has EVER managed in 15 games. That says it all pretty much really.

You try to discredit his performance in game three but all it shows is your Pearce agenda.

That Origin game didn't count because it was a dead rubber - Valheru

That's all fine. It is your opinion but it just happens to be the wrong opinion.

Pearce is the best available option at halfback.

 

[Tweed Titan]

It doesn't weaken my argument. My argument is that QLD have a far better record in live games so pointing to Moylan's performance in a dead rubber last year as justification for selecting him is poor logic. Again, respond to what i am saying, not what you want me to say.

No matter what logic anyone uses you just deflect. You point to live games, Pearce has a bad record in those. You don't rate dead rubbers, Pearce would have a poor record in those probably too.

Moylan hasn't had the benefit of being able to suck 15 times for us to draw a decent sample size to gauge whether he would consistently do well or not, but you hold that against him, even though Myth sucks on that barometer too. All we can draw from Moylan so far is he has done alright in limited opportunities. That's better than Myth's offerings.

Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Valheru]

No matter what logic anyone uses you just deflect. You point to live games, Pearce has a bad record in those. You don't rate dead rubbers, Pearce would have a poor record in those probably too.

Moylan hasn't had the benefit of being able to suck 15 times for us to draw a decent sample size to gauge whether he would consistently do well or not, but you hold that against him, even though Myth sucks on that barometer too. All we can draw from Moylan so far is he has done alright in limited opportunities. That's better than Myth's offerings.

Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

I haven't defelected anything.

Pearce is a better player than moylan, it's as simple as that.

 

[Tweed Titan]

I haven't defelected anything.

Pearce is a better player than moylan, it's as simple as that.

You remind me of the guy who said Merritt is a better player than Hayne.

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[TheFrog]

Moylan has been ordinary this year, it's a fact.

He's got one factor the Pearce cannot match. Queensland fear him.

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

Ok since 2006 QLD lead 20-8 in live games. Dead rubbers it is 3-2 to NSW. Get it yet?

Mal has been on record as saying last year's 4 nations team will be picked for continuity and changes, if warranted, will be made for the world cup. I am not sure why you keep arguing this fact.

It is ironic you point to a struggling team when defending moylan when pearce copped sole blame for 2015 game 3.

So we are yet to play 3 teams from both top and bottom 8 after 9 games. That seems a standard draw to me. Should the roosters play top 8 teams every week?

That's your big stat that's meant to prove the QLD are unmotivated in deadrubbers? NSW winning 1 more game in a sample size that is 5x smaller then live ones?

Lol here's a stat for you, NSW over 10 years have won 0 series with Pearce in the halves while they've won 1 with Hokko/Reynolds in the halves hence they are both better players then Pearce

Mal has also gone on record and said that he'll show loyalty to players who have been there and done it before. Combinations isn't everything and form means little for the most successful coach in origin history.

The whole team was to blame in game 3 2015 but Pearce was terrible that night, didn't he let in 3 tries or somehning? In a struggling team at Penrith, Moylan has actually played ok.

No that's not what I'm saying, what I'm trying to point at is the difference between the level of opposition that Pearce has had as opposed to Moylan with the panthers who have had to play 6 of the top 8 in their opening 9 rounds which is much more difficult then what the roosters had.

 

[Valheru]

He's got one factor the Pearce cannot match. Queensland fear him.

Lol that will do me.

No one, anywhere in the world fears Moylan. He is a dud.

 

[TheFrog]

I bet you'd have him in your side in the blink of an eye.