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NSW team lists and insults thread 2018

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FFS! It's not about having one attribute over another, it's about selecting players that can do both. That's a representative player. No body questions Inglis and Chambers defence, because surprise, they can defend as well as be damaging with the ball. Centres who can't defend are found out, and centres who can't defend in origin will be slaughtered. Aitken is extremely capable with the ball. Everyone is looking at the NSW backline and thinking points. There's no starch there. I can't see any of them rolling up their sleeves to cop the punishment early in sets of 6 either. Cotric should be there. He plays wing albeit on the left, but is a natural right side player anyway. I love Tom T as a FB, but I don't see him being effective when the defensive line is set 10m away on tackle 2. There's no balance in that backline

Agreed. They need some power and balls on the wing. Addo-Carr's good, but isn't the strongest carrying it out of his own end. Trbojevic simply won't be able to do that at all. He's a fullback and a fullback only. Cotric should be there.

I would have had Trbojevic at fullback and Tedesco left right out. Cotric on the wing.

I also wouldn't have Roberts cos he's a piss-weak defender and produces constant brain explosions. He's also a dickhead off the field, so not good for the new culture of the blues.

Cordner also shouldn't be there. Gus is right. He's a boring can-only-run-one-line 2nd rower. I've always hated players of this ilk (Ryan Hoffman etc). Get in the middle of the field and do some tough stuff to help out the props/lock ffs.
 

mxlegend99

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I never wanna see Graham in Blue again after Game II last year.

The missed tackle on Josh McGuire after shooting out of the line which led to QLDs 2nd try was horrible.

But the egregious and unnecessary strip on Napa deep in Qlds own half with 5 to go which led to their match winning try was egregious and unforgivable.
He still has a better win rate than Boyd Cordner. 2 wins in 9 games.

Neither should be selected. Why start a new culture and then give the captaincy to the bloke with the worst win rate?

He's a good club player. So is Wade Graham. But as we saw with Pearce... some players can never cut it at rep level no matter how great they were at club level.

Here's hoping a decent halfback has Cordner proving us wrong.
 

mave

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I dont want to see Turbo on the wing. Cotric is too good to be left out.
I was really hoping we could simply pick the best ( also in form) players in their current positions and be done with it.

If Turbo is picked on the wing, at least Freddy has got the fullback count down to 2. Better than the 5 we have had in previous years.
 

Valheru

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The predicted team on NRL.com looks pretty good besides the sack of shit that's captaining the team. Hopefully next year we can f**k him off, move Frizell to the left edge, Crichton on the right and starting and have Jordan McLean or another good prop on the bench.

Has Cords done something to personally offend you?

He hasn't been his usual self this year to be sure but it is literally his first sub par season in his career.

Interestingly, despite the common viewpoint that he has been below standard this year he is actually leading (up until end of round 10) the roosters player of the year tally as voted by roosters members on this board...
 

Valheru

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He still has a better win rate than Boyd Cordner. 2 wins in 9 games.

Neither should be selected. Why start a new culture and then give the captaincy to the bloke with the worst win rate?

He's a good club player. So is Wade Graham. But as we saw with Pearce... some players can never cut it at rep level no matter how great they were at club level.

Here's hoping a decent halfback has Cordner proving us wrong.

???

Did he not perform well at both the 2016 4 nations and the 2017 RLWC with a MOTM performance in the WC final?
 

lockyno1

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FFS! It's not about having one attribute over another, it's about selecting players that can do both. That's a representative player. No body questions Inglis and Chambers defence, because surprise, they can defend as well as be damaging with the ball. Centres who can't defend are found out, and centres who can't defend in origin will be slaughtered. Aitken is extremely capable with the ball. Everyone is looking at the NSW backline and thinking points. There's no starch there. I can't see any of them rolling up their sleeves to cop the punishment early in sets of 6 either. Cotric should be there. He plays wing albeit on the left, but is a natural right side player anyway. I love Tom T as a FB, but I don't see him being effective when the defensive line is set 10m away on tackle 2. There's no balance in that backline

Quite a few people have issues with Chambers but centre is the weakest position qld have. There is very little depth there. Roberts can defend..there is 5% difference in defensive stats...that’s nothing, and Roberts can create tries through pure speed whereas Aitken can’t. Aitken would just be a better Josh Dugan, he was never that good at Origin level.
 

OldPanther

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Has Cords done something to personally offend you?

He hasn't been his usual self this year to be sure but it is literally his first sub par season in his career.

Interestingly, despite the common viewpoint that he has been below standard this year he is actually leading (up until end of round 10) the roosters player of the year tally as voted by roosters members on this board...

It's state of origin, not a popularity contest. If his form is down don't pick him until it's where it should be.
 

Valheru

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I don't like Turbo on the wing, he either plays fullback or is left out completely, same with Teddy. I think there is merit in having either one and doesn't bother me which way they go. I do feel Teddy's lacklustre form is a myth though.

Last 6 weeks stats

TEDDY
Run Metres - 1227
Tackle Breaks - 40
Line Breaks - 3
Line Break Assists - 0
Tries - 2
Try Assists - 1
Errors - 12

TURBO
Run Metres - 1032
Tackle Breaks - 28
Line Breaks - 4
Line Break Assists - 1
Tries - 1
Try Assists - 2
Errors - 9
 

Valheru

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It's state of origin, not a popularity contest. If his form is down don't pick him until it's where it should be.

I just gave evidence that perhaps his form isn't as down as people may think...

Regardless, calling him a piece of shit because you think there are better options seems a bit over the top which is why I directed the response to the poster in question.
 

MilkShark

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It's state of origin, not a popularity contest. If his form is down don't pick him until it's where it should be.
IMO his form has never warranted origin selection. He is a good club player but I feel he is lacking ability at origin level.

NSW have lots of great backrowers, it's a shame this guy takes up one of those spots.
 
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Has Cords done something to personally offend you?

He hasn't been his usual self this year to be sure but it is literally his first sub par season in his career.

Interestingly, despite the common viewpoint that he has been below standard this year he is actually leading (up until end of round 10) the roosters player of the year tally as voted by roosters members on this board...
Cords can be the best player in the world playing for the Roosters and I wouldn't want him near the side if he can't perform for NSW - which he hasn't so far. There's a bunch of gun forwards out there and it's a total shame they're missing out because of this plodder.
 
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Graham has been very good for NSW besides that missed tackle on McGuire and the strip on Napa, definitely deserves another shot when hes back in form.
Graham is like Fifita in a way - has the ability to play at Origin level but also does stupid things that damages the team overall.

Cordner is like Woods - they do the very minimum and if someone else was there, no one would notice.
 

Valheru

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Cords can be the best player in the world playing for the Roosters and I wouldn't want him near the side if he can't perform for NSW - which he hasn't so far. There's a bunch of gun forwards out there and it's a total shame they're missing out because of this plodder.

But he has performed

It's not fair IMO to judge him prior to last season when he was starting off the bench. He definitely isn't an impact bench player and should either start or not be in the side. He was excellent in game 1 last year, good in game 2 and poor along with the rest of the team in game 3.

He also made the most metres of any of the starting forwards for NSW last series.
 

skeepe

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Tom Trbojevic on the wing over Cotric shows the Blues still haven’t learned anything. f**king morons.
 
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But he has performed

It's not fair IMO to judge him prior to last season when he was starting off the bench. He definitely isn't an impact bench player and should either start or not be in the side. He was excellent in game 1 last year, good in game 2 and poor along with the rest of the team in game 3.

He also made the most metres of any of the starting forwards for NSW last series.
He was okayish is game 1 last year along with an absolute dominating forward pack that was in total control.

Games 2 and 3 he was invisible.

His best game to date was game 1 2016 which wasn't even that good. He was injured for games 2 & 3 and was replaced by Tyson Frizell and Wade Graham who both played better games then him.

You're right he's not an impact and was used incorrectly before of the bench but last year him starting and being on the field with being interchanged is exactly why he made more metres then any other forward - he's on there longer then any of them.

He's an absolute average player, there's a tonne of players out there who are more explosive and would offer much more at Origin - Tariq Sims and Angus Crichton are two examples.
 

Hutty1986

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I never wanna see Graham in Blue again after Game II last year.

The missed tackle on Josh McGuire after shooting out of the line which led to QLDs 2nd try was horrible.

But the egregious and unnecessary strip on Napa deep in Qlds own half with 5 to go which led to their match winning try was egregious and unforgivable.
Yep. That penalty summed up the deadshit as a player right there-utterly brainless. Never pick the merkin again.
One of the several series we have gifted the maroons since 2006.
 

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