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but the NRL has also had to let employees go hasn't it?This is a slight positive of Covid. The AFL will need to let most of these employees go, bringing them back in line with the NRL
but the NRL has also had to let employees go hasn't it?This is a slight positive of Covid. The AFL will need to let most of these employees go, bringing them back in line with the NRL
Any plans for a NT/Darwin team in the Queensland Cup? Seems a good starter, I don't think the Top End will be ready for an NRL team in the next 50 years but having a team in a solid second tier should do a job!
If ever you needed any greater example of the difference between the commitment of afl to grow their game compared to nrl here it is. Nrl employs about 10 people in WA and we’d be one of the biggest outposts!
“Another 104 are employed at AFL NSW, 88 at AFL Queensland, 40 at AFLNT and 29 at AFL Tasmania – the majority of which work with local and grassroots competitions in those states.”
https://www.eaglesvine.com/sports/leaked-file-exposes-afls-staggering-115m-network/31311/
Whose talking about hq employees?
I’m talking about staff in expansion states. they could afford it, they had $300mill a year more revenue than us!
No doubt in the wash up post Covid they’ll still have significant more revenue than us.
The $400mill includes aflhq losses AND expected afl club losses. Given their massive revenue from attendances it’s what you’d expect.
What’s the nrl’s predicted combined Hq and club figure with no attendances and pokie clubs closed?
All sports have had significant losses and will next year to a lessor degree. The big unknown factor to us for both codes will be the real figure for the tv deals over the next few years. That is where the real revenue pain post Covid will sit.
D/Os are employees FFS. You think they are not going to be affected.You think all these extra people in expansion states are not going to be affected.Get real about the monetary affects of COVID even on the AFL.
They will of course have more revenues that's no surprise ,but ATM we are not using borrowed money like the AFL did.
Of course the $400m includes all AFL revenues, down from $1.2bn to $800bn.And when you outlay large amounts for expansion clubs they are going to also take a decent hit.1/3 of revenue is hardly a minor hit.
I have never argued the NRL is not taking a decent hit, except they are not using any of the $250m borrowing backstop.I have argued that V'landys /Abdo/Apollo team/the players have all played their part in securing the game goes on earlier than the others, accepted pay cuts this year,
All codes are affected ,never suggested otherwise you're not giving me a scoop, although you did say it's no worse than the GST at one stage, which is why it amazes me you are banging on about the AFL numbers in development states.You take on too many ,someone bears the brunt, when the sh*t hits the fan.
Why the need to treble numbers ,when even people in the AFL says they went overboard, and been found out now COVID has hit.And bagged Gil when he announced the cuts in his car, now that's showing real appreciation to his staff LOL.
We do know there is revenue certainty with Foxtel,we do know the NRL will be announcing cuts up to $80m possibly this week by Abdo.
Are you serious?The real pain is happening now when people staff ,human beings, people with mortgages, in sport are losing their jobs.After they have lost their jobs ,the remainder will at least know they have one and plan ahead, because at least til 2027 in the NRL there is a degree of broadcast certainty.And whatever that actual cash component is, it is sufficient for the NRL to make decisions on staff numbers, club handouts and create certainty that was lacking when this started.That's why I don't bag Vlandys,nor when he is stirred by journos to take a passing shot at his main competitor.9 times out of 10 so far he has delivered ,that's all I ask of any leader.I don't give a sh*t whether he looks shifty, says Rugba Legee,if very club and the code survives he has done his job.
Bagging competitors is happening now in other areas, when one only Health Fund has not increased rates, and is letting the public know this ,whilst their competitors are greedy.Coca Cola and Pepsi did it for years.Demetriou used to take shots at the NRL,Gil does more discretely.
Im assuming NRL Vs NRL is a typo and that one of them is ALF.....teheOf course they are. The point is pre covid NRL had MASSIVE investments in expansion states compared to NRL. IF both organisations face similar financial % revenue reductions (something nobody knows yet) then contraction will be similar and AFL will still have significantly more staff in expansion states than NRL.
The proof of this pudding will be in the eating and we wont see that for a while yet. Fingers crossed its not as dire as it may be. Fingers crossed the Fox deal isnt sht, fingers crossed we can still sell FTA rights for a decent packet. Fingers crossed the lack of crowds and pokie addicts doesn't go on too long. Fingers crossed companies that sponsor RL dont go under. Lots of fingers to be crossed!
Of course they are. The point is pre covid NRL had MASSIVE investments in expansion states compared to NRL. IF both organisations face similar financial % revenue reductions (something nobody knows yet) then contraction will be similar and AFL will still have significantly more staff in expansion states than NRL.
The proof of this pudding will be in the eating and we wont see that for a while yet. Fingers crossed its not as dire as it may be. Fingers crossed the Fox deal isnt sht, fingers crossed we can still sell FTA rights for a decent packet. Fingers crossed the lack of crowds and pokie addicts doesn't go on too long. Fingers crossed companies that sponsor RL dont go under. Lots of fingers to be crossed!
I think you meant to say the "AFL" had MASSIVE investments in expansion states, typos that you kindly bag me when I make them.What you left out in that assessment with these MASSIVE investments ,was in some cases over spending in these investments, as has been shown for both GWS and the Suns.
The NRL will be down $130m over 3 years, that is why they have to chop 25% of staff and work on $50m cut each year to get back to stability.
The 25% cut though terrible having to do, was done professionally, and not through a phone call via a car (ala Gil McPolo)
The AFL has a 20% cut but they are down $400m .Now trying to compare like for like is a bit hard, but the NRL has not over extended ATT expansion wises will be in a better position to expand once this stability is complete.Bearing in mind your despised Vlandys will eb making a decision on Brisbane end of y=ear supposedly.
One thing Fox /News has,is financial borrowing capacity ,so for their size they are in a better position to honour contracts ,than struggling FTA stations, even though Foxtel is hardly a money maker.
So if teh Fox deal is sh*t then FTA is going to be in deeper sh*t,thus AFL will not be laughing either.
You keep banging on about pokies(and I despise them,I've seen a casual friend's old man put his house through them),but there are AFL teams in Melbourne that also rely on that extra income they provide.
I didnt mention your gst instead of gfc faux pas lol
where do you get the $130mill from? Does that include all the losses by the 16 clubs like the afl figure does?
LOL.For you GFC/GST and COVID -19 are no worse than each other, just a passing phase.
Let your research do the talking and you work it out.
The code and clubs will lose $400 this year and the next two years.MY understanding the AFL has lost $400m this year/
NRL rocked by $130m setback as staff cut by 25% on dark day
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-rocked-by-130m-setback-as-staff-cut-by-25-per-cent-on-dark-day/news-story/9fcb8c2f4f7c5f04e182cd3113126203
Tried three times to set out reference without access .Go to News site, the story is dated 21/9/20 by Nick Savage.
Surely you can do that.
I wish GST was a passing phase!
The NRL figure doesnt include the losses sustained by clubs this year so your comparing apples with oranges. Not that any of the figures are accurate, just guesswork as no one knows what will happen over next 24 months.
IF crowds are back to normal next year then the only losses will be in downturn in corporate support and the renegotiated TV deals both codes have made.
good thing for them (bad thing for us) they are a national competition with plenty of national blue-chip sponsors.The way things are going in Victoria, the only company that will want to associate themselves with AwFuL will be a hand sanitiser company. Or Dettol
good thing for them (bad thing for us) they are a national competition with plenty of national blue-chip sponsors.
It's kinda shocking really when you look at some of the sponsors of our supposedly national clubs in comparison
Yeah for sure, But I was responding to "the way things are going in Victoria"Qantas has ditched the Wallabies, and I dare say Virgin will reduce input into AFL.Don't kid yourself major companies in this country are hurting.Including the major banks, one of whom NAB involved in the AFL.