NZ V Aus Third ODI

[Iafeta]

Was their much expectation on the kiwis in kiwi land? cos it seems to me your senior players havent copped with being expected to really compete and go close to beating australia, you've gone backwards!

I'm sure there was expectation of a competitive series. What they've delivered has been dribble.

They've selected poorly and carried some out of form players or players who are not up to it in Tuffey, Wilson and Sinclair and they have paid dearly. Add to that this habit of batting out the first 15 overs without looking to score runs and leaving it to Hamish Marshall and they have had no chance.

If it wasn't for Marshall and Vettori, this would be an absolute obliteration.

 

[Iafeta]

Double Post

 

[Twizzle]

another bean ball from Bing, accidentially of course !!

 

[Twizzle]

she's all over

we kick arse again

series victory to Aussies

 

[Earl]

 

[Lego_Man]

God we suck

 

[Mr Angry]

Bring on both Hussey's

 

[Earl]

Martyn :arrow:

 

[douglasallen91]

now out to find lee, does anyone know what hotel the aussies are staying,

 

[Mr Angry]

I reckon he would take you pal.

As we have seen NZ has nothing.


:lol:

 

[Azkatro]

Was their much expectation on the kiwis in kiwi land? cos it seems to me your senior players havent copped with being expected to really compete and go close to beating australia, you've gone backwards!

I'm sure there was expectation of a competitive series. What they've delivered has been dribble.

They've selected poorly and carried some out of form players or players who are not up to it in Tuffey, Wilson and Sinclair and they have paid dearly. Add to that this habit of batting out the first 15 overs without looking to score runs and leaving it to Hamish Marshall and they have had no chance.

If it wasn't for Marshall and Vettori, this would be an absolute obliteration.

A lot of teams that have played Australia in recent years have made similar excuses! I think there's a pattern emerging here

 

[Mr Angry]

Was their much expectation on the kiwis in kiwi land? cos it seems to me your senior players havent copped with being expected to really compete and go close to beating australia, you've gone backwards!

I'm sure there was expectation of a competitive series. What they've delivered has been dribble.

They've selected poorly and carried some out of form players or players who are not up to it in Tuffey, Wilson and Sinclair and they have paid dearly. Add to that this habit of batting out the first 15 overs without looking to score runs and leaving it to Hamish Marshall and they have had no chance.

If it wasn't for Marshall and Vettori, this would be an absolute obliteration.

But But But......................Vettori is crap in NZ.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

(you know who this is aimed at)

 

[El Diablo]

11 victories from the last 12 against NZ for the mighty Assies. We own NZ :mrgreen:

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

But But But......................Vettori is crap in NZ.

yep, certainly is in tests. He's also incapable of taking wickets against Australia in ODIs, as indicated by his career average of 41, and series average above 45. Economical though.

 

[Mr Angry]

If I was a kiwi this is what I would think of you



You bag your best....keep it up.......you show your true colours.

If only Dan was French and dark skinned..................... :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

If only you had an argument or a point

 

[Iafeta]

Was their much expectation on the kiwis in kiwi land? cos it seems to me your senior players havent copped with being expected to really compete and go close to beating australia, you've gone backwards!

I'm sure there was expectation of a competitive series. What they've delivered has been dribble.

They've selected poorly and carried some out of form players or players who are not up to it in Tuffey, Wilson and Sinclair and they have paid dearly. Add to that this habit of batting out the first 15 overs without looking to score runs and leaving it to Hamish Marshall and they have had no chance.

If it wasn't for Marshall and Vettori, this would be an absolute obliteration.

A lot of teams that have played Australia in recent years have made similar excuses! I think there's a pattern emerging here

Thats an excuse??

An excuse is trying to lay blame at some circumstancial event for a loss or failure. Look it up in the dictionary.

Its an explanation. New Zealand are not up to it and the team they have selected is not up to it. What part of that are you unsure of, or interpret as an excuse?

 

[Iafeta]

But But But......................Vettori is crap in NZ.

yep, certainly is in tests. He's also incapable of taking wickets against Australia in ODIs, as indicated by his career average of 41, and series average above 45. Economical though.

Thierry, there is ONE bowler in the New Zealand line up who can trouble Australia.

To not understand his importance to this team, PARTICULARLY in the test series coming up is unreal. If you are going to rely on 3-4 medium pacers, and a very average off break bowler in Wiseman, there'll be 500-600 plus scores racked up with monotonous regularlity.

Stats don't always tell the true story. Without Vettori's accuracy and guile it'd be same old same old and be extremely comfortable for Australia, not that it isn't already.

As for quoting his series average of being above 45, thats laughable. Really is. You can't judge his series performance on that. 90 runs off 30 overs, now THAT you can judge. Every time he has come on, he's either changed momentum completely or in the second ODI helped save Fleming from digging himself a hole for at least 20 overs. Surely you can see that.

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

As for quoting his series average of being above 45, thats laughable. Really is. You can't judge his series performance on that. 90 runs off 30 overs, now THAT you can judge. Every time he has come on, he's either changed momentum completely or in the second ODI helped save Fleming from digging himself a hole for at least 20 overs. Surely you can see that.

As I said in the other thread, YES, I can see that. Economy is vital in one-day cricket. Vettori is capable of doing a job in that regard. But there is nothing laughable about noting the fact that he only took 2 wickets. You can't deny that a few more wickets would have really helped us out, especially today. And you can't possibly claim that this series proved that Vettori was a real wicket-taking threat.

Thierry, there is ONE bowler in the New Zealand line up who can trouble Australia.

Vettori can keep Australia quiet, but very rarely can he rip through them. If we get a green wicket in either of the tests, any one of our mediocre seamers could plausibly do just that. It's been proved time and again.

To not understand his importance to this team, PARTICULARLY in the test series coming up is unreal. If you are going to rely on 3-4 medium pacers, and a very average off break bowler in Wiseman, there'll be 500-600 plus scores racked up with monotonous regularlity.

Stats don't always tell the true story. Without Vettori's accuracy and guile it'd be same old same old and be extremely comfortable for Australia, not that it isn't already.

How can Vettori keep Australia's score down IN A TEST if he doesn't take wickets? This has really got me confused.

 

[Mr Angry]

It's all right Iafeta, lots of kiwi SUPPORTERS know the value of dan.

And many an Aussie can respect that.

Dickwad french soccer player just ain't one of them.

Shyte even Aussies will give dan a wrap, we see his danger.

Saving face is all he has and it ain't working.

The test series will show what a fool he is. (note the prediction dickwad)