Official Team v NZ Warriors

[Tiger05]

Never mind Tiger05 HT, he reckoned that pair worked beautifully last time when it was abundantly obvious that it didn't work at all because Benji played a hybrid half/five-eighth role, Farah played hooker and halfback and Lawrence was a floating Lock/Centre/occasional five-eighth if he was standing in the wrong spot at the right time.

I think it worked fine considering it was the first go at it. I also get the point - lets put our best players into the most important positions.

I also think Benji has been getting the ball at first receiver multiple times throughout the last couple of seasons. You could argue that Lui was a 5/8.

Basically I'm prepared to give it a go.

 

[The Charlatan]

I think it worked fine considering it was the first go at it. I also get the point - lets put our best players into the most important positions.

I also think Benji has been getting the ball at first receiver multiple times throughout the last couple of seasons. You could argue that Lui was a 5/8.

Basically I'm prepared to give it a go.

Lawrence is shit there, he has always been shit there and he will continue to be shit there. You know why? He's not a 5/8th's arsehole. He lacks the basic skills to be even average there. He's a centre, and a bloody good one at that, but it looks as though he's been thrown into the halves so that Sheens can fit all his favourites into the one team.

If you think he is ever going to be a success there, you're as mad as Sheens is.

 

[Radical Rat]

Lawrence is shit there, he has always been shit there and he will continue to be shit there. You know why? He's not a 5/8th's arsehole. He lacks the basic skills to be even average there. He's a centre, and a bloody good one at that, but it looks as though he's been thrown into the halves so that Sheens can fit all his favourites into the one team.

If you think he is ever going to be a success there, you're as mad as Sheens is.

Spot on, Lawrence is so rigid that it makes me uncomfortable watching him try to put on the simplest of plays from 5/8.

It is such a ridiculous notion of Sheens to think that anyone can play in any position so as long as he fits all "his" best players in.

I'm still not convinced that Tiger05 isn't affiliated with Wests Tigers management somehow.

 

[gronkathon]

We scored 61 points in two weeks with Humble there. Why the f%ck did we see fit to change that?

We would have beaten Souths if Marshall had taken the smart option with Humble at half, Fulton at hooker and Meaney as replacement yet we dont go back to that option.

Sheens is a case study in erratic insanity

 

[madunit]

I think it worked fine considering it was the first go at it. I also get the point - lets put our best players into the most important positions.

I also think Benji has been getting the ball at first receiver multiple times throughout the last couple of seasons. You could argue that Lui was a 5/8.

Basically I'm prepared to give it a go.

It wasn't his first go at it.

It was his 7th go at it.

Lui was a 5/8, but he had a kicking game which is all we needed.

Benji is at his best when the 9 and 7 in our side do most of the work and give Benji the ball when he wants it.

Instead Benji is being given the ball all the time because our attack plan is "Benji will make something happen"

Once this year, the halfback has had more touches than Benji, and it was in the 31-0 win over Penrith.

Hadn't happened before and hasn't happened since.

While we weren't exactly brilliant against penrith, it has been our best performance since Round 1.

Benji's brilliance comes when he can take on the line. Everytime he plays at halfback, he just slides sideways and pasess early, he doesn't run at the line, he runs parrallel to it looking for a runner on the inside.

Why why WHY would you take our best straighth running options in Benjiand Lawrence and make them play sideways? It's f**king stupid and only f**king morons who can't read the game would think its a good idea.

Lawrence runs strong lines. When he's at 6 he doesn't run, he tries to be Benji.

Lawrence does not have the passing game to be a 6 and he sure as f**king hell doesn't have the kicking game for it.

What else other than passing and Kicking do you need a half to do?

Not much.

Lawrence at 6 f**ks our attack, because Benji runs sideways and his strike attacking inside runner for that play, is on the other side of the field at second receiver, flat footed.

So all our attack is directed on the opposite side that Lawrence plays. Defence can read it very easily and we are shut down.

We only scored two tries against the Injury riddled and out of form Titans for f**ks sake.

Lawrence and Benji as halves is good.

Open your f**king eyes!

 

[b.bear]

What a dead set joke. Lawrence in the halves and only two forwards (excluding Politoni) on the bench against one of the biggest packs in the NRL.

How is this a good side, FFS?

Exactly ! we had to go with an all forwards bench ,i can see politoni getting 5 mins on the wing for lote to move to prop and with utai covering humble at hooker and so on .This is getting crazy

 

[madunit]

While I'm at it.

In 5 of the 7 games when Lawrence has played at Five-eighth, we have scored 3 tries or less.

 

[The Charlatan]

Spot on, Lawrence is so rigid that it makes me uncomfortable watching him try to put on the simplest of plays from 5/8.

It is such a ridiculous notion of Sheens to think that anyone can play in any position so as long as he fits all "his" best players in.

I'm still not convinced that Tiger05 isn't affiliated with Wests Tigers management somehow.

Certainly has the hallmarks of WT recruitment... Rates Moltzen, likes Lawrence at 5/8...

Either that or he's Benji.

 

[Radical Rat]

It wasn't his first go at it.

It was his 7th go at it.

Lui was a 5/8, but he had a kicking game which is all we needed.

Benji is at his best when the 9 and 7 in our side do most of the work and give Benji the ball when he wants it.

Instead Benji is being given the ball all the time because our attack plan is "Benji will make something happen"

Once this year, the halfback has had more touches than Benji, and it was in the 31-0 win over Penrith.

Hadn't happened before and hasn't happened since.

While we weren't exactly brilliant against penrith, it has been our best performance since Round 1.

Benji's brilliance comes when he can take on the line. Everytime he plays at halfback, he just slides sideways and pasess early, he doesn't run at the line, he runs parrallel to it looking for a runner on the inside.

Why why WHY would you take our best straighth running options in Benjiand Lawrence and make them play sideways? It's f**king stupid and only f**king morons who can't read the game would think its a good idea.

Lawrence runs strong lines. When he's at 6 he doesn't run, he tries to be Benji.

Lawrence does not have the passing game to be a 6 and he sure as f**king hell doesn't have the kicking game for it.

What else other than passing and Kicking do you need a half to do?

Not much.

Lawrence at 6 f**ks our attack, because Benji runs sideways and his strike attacking inside runner for that play, is on the other side of the field at second receiver, flat footed.

So all our attack is directed on the opposite side that Lawrence plays. Defence can read it very easily and we are shut down.

We only scored two tries against the Injury riddled and out of form Titans for f**ks sake.

Lawrence and Benji as halves is good.

Open your f**king eyes!

Well said.

Madunit, you should honestly try and get this to Wests Tigers management somehow.

Maybe clean it up a little, but it makes such complete sense that I don't understand how anyone who has watched Rugby League couldn't agree. Surely Tigers management would have to see the same things that we all are.

These continued positional selections are absolute f*cking madness. And it's so frustrating that we just have to sit here and watch it all unfold without being able to do anything.

 

[The Charlatan]

Doesn't matter to them Rat, it will fall on deaf ears. Coaches, staff and players come and go, they'll collect their salaries and move on when they need or have to... The fans are the only ones who have an eternal investment in the club.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

I think it worked fine considering it was the first go at it. I also get the point - lets put our best players into the most important positions.

I also think Benji has been getting the ball at first receiver multiple times throughout the last couple of seasons. You could argue that Lui was a 5/8.

Basically I'm prepared to give it a go.

It wasn't the first go at it. Lawrence has played five-eighth many times and it has not worked a single time.

Yes, Benji has played first receiver for a long time, and yes of course you could argue that Lui was a five eighth. But the difference was Lui was clearly a ball player, had a kicking game and took pressure off Benji. Lawrence is not a ball player, he is a hole running centre with no creativity, no kicking game and no organisational ability.

I would love to hear ONE single logical reason as to what Sheens sees in Lawrence that would make him a good five-eighth?

 

[madunit]

Doesn't matter to them Rat, it will fall on deaf ears. Coaches, staff and players come and go, they'll collect their salaries and move on when they need or have to... The fans are the only ones who have an eternal investment in the club.

and emotional

 

[madunit]

Obviously there are some things which can always be improved upon and its always easy to get angry at the bad.

But I have never ever been so frustrated and angered by the team I support in all my life, and I supported them through the Alan Jones years, the spoon of 94, and the eternity to rise to a mid-table team before having to merge, then the woeful Lamb years.

This is a team unlike all those others. It is brimming with talent, dare I say, almost as much talent as the Tigers teams of the very late 80's.

Yet the coach has cruelled them so much that it is horrendous to watch.

And he is now chasing old players (Cashmere has been performing solidly, I'll credit him for that) but he's just showing absolutely no faith in any of the juniors.

When he first came here we suffered with the same problem, and Sheens brought the kids through and we became a strong side with star players.

Now we're back at 2003-04, he's ignoring the youth and trying to patch up problems he should have fixed years ago, but convinced himself everything was fine.

His love affair with certain players, most who don't deserve NRL selection has become overbearing.

His hot and cold attitude towards players has seen very good players leave, to the clubs detriment. he is a stubborn, ignorant fat headed f**kwit who is very quickly undoing all of the great things he did for the club.

For his own reputation and the clubs future, he should just leave. I'd die to have Folkes back at the club.

 

[macnaz]

Lets start looking at Matt Parrish for a future coach.

 

[macnaz]

Obviously there are some things which can always be improved upon and its always easy to get angry at the bad.

But I have never ever been so frustrated and angered by the team I support in all my life, and I supported them through the Alan Jones years, the spoon of 94, and the eternity to rise to a mid-table team before having to merge, then the woeful Lamb years.

This is a team unlike all those others. It is brimming with talent, dare I say, almost as much talent as the Tigers teams of the very late 80's.

Yet the coach has cruelled them so much that it is horrendous to watch.

And he is now chasing old players (Cashmere has been performing solidly, I'll credit him for that) but he's just showing absolutely no faith in any of the juniors.

When he first came here we suffered with the same problem, and Sheens brought the kids through and we became a strong side with star players.

Now we're back at 2003-04, he's ignoring the youth and trying to patch up problems he should have fixed years ago, but convinced himself everything was fine.

His love affair with certain players, most who don't deserve NRL selection has become overbearing.

His hot and cold attitude towards players has seen very good players leave, to the clubs detriment. he is a stubborn, ignorant fat headed f**kwit who is very quickly undoing all of the great things he did for the club.

For his own reputation and the clubs future, he should just leave. I'd die to have Folkes back at the club.

Well said MU, i couldnt agree more.

 

[The Charlatan]

Obviously there are some things which can always be improved upon and its always easy to get angry at the bad.

But I have never ever been so frustrated and angered by the team I support in all my life, and I supported them through the Alan Jones years, the spoon of 94, and the eternity to rise to a mid-table team before having to merge, then the woeful Lamb years.

This is a team unlike all those others. It is brimming with talent, dare I say, almost as much talent as the Tigers teams of the very late 80's.

Yet the coach has cruelled them so much that it is horrendous to watch.

And he is now chasing old players (Cashmere has been performing solidly, I'll credit him for that) but he's just showing absolutely no faith in any of the juniors.

When he first came here we suffered with the same problem, and Sheens brought the kids through and we became a strong side with star players.

Now we're back at 2003-04, he's ignoring the youth and trying to patch up problems he should have fixed years ago, but convinced himself everything was fine.

His love affair with certain players, most who don't deserve NRL selection has become overbearing.

His hot and cold attitude towards players has seen very good players leave, to the clubs detriment. he is a stubborn, ignorant fat headed f**kwit who is very quickly undoing all of the great things he did for the club.

For his own reputation and the clubs future, he should just leave. I'd die to have Folkes back at the club.

Hard to argue with any of that MU.

 

[Magpies Forever]

Obviously there are some things which can always be improved upon and its always easy to get angry at the bad.

But I have never ever been so frustrated and angered by the team I support in all my life, and I supported them through the Alan Jones years, the spoon of 94, and the eternity to rise to a mid-table team before having to merge, then the woeful Lamb years.

This is a team unlike all those others. It is brimming with talent, dare I say, almost as much talent as the Tigers teams of the very late 80's.

Yet the coach has cruelled them so much that it is horrendous to watch.

And he is now chasing old players (Cashmere has been performing solidly, I'll credit him for that) but he's just showing absolutely no faith in any of the juniors.

When he first came here we suffered with the same problem, and Sheens brought the kids through and we became a strong side with star players.

Now we're back at 2003-04, he's ignoring the youth and trying to patch up problems he should have fixed years ago, but convinced himself everything was fine.

His love affair with certain players, most who don't deserve NRL selection has become overbearing.

His hot and cold attitude towards players has seen very good players leave, to the clubs detriment. he is a stubborn, ignorant fat headed f**kwit who is very quickly undoing all of the great things he did for the club.

For his own reputation and the clubs future, he should just leave. I'd die to have Folkes back at the club.

Well said MU, but what would we 'so called' fans know????? Oh well, maybe at some stage Sheens will do his dash with WT management. He's done his dash long ago with many here.

 

[madunit]

As I said once before to someone in here, if seeing our club going backwards at an alarming rate and getting angry by it makes me a so-called fan, then I'm happy to be just that, because it shows I care about the club passionately, unlike those blind sheep who just wank Sheens off everytime we play like shit.

The past 12 months saw us involved in a very messy and lengthy battle over an average player, extend a loyal and solid players contract for a long period only to release him a month later, take no action over the two acts by Lui while at the club, spend massive overs for a players who even at the time wasn't worth it, have not bothered to secure a halfback since 2007 that they would play every week, have not bothered to sign a fullback since Hodgson left, had let our front row stocks get too depleted, has failed to bring through talent at similar rates as in the past, has been so poor at recruitment and retention and cap management that they are now resorting to old players on match payments.

Our depth is shattered, club morale is at an all time low, even after 3 wins, coach has no attacking plays at all.

Its the worst the club has looked since 2003.

 

[Magpies Forever]

As I said once before to someone in here, if seeing our club going backwards at an alarming rate and getting angry by it makes me a so-called fan, then I'm happy to be just that, because it shows I care about the club passionately, unlike those blind sheep who just wank Sheens off everytime we play like shit.

The past 12 months saw us involved in a very messy and lengthy battle over an average player, extend a loyal and solid players contract for a long period only to release him a month later, take no action over the two acts by Lui while at the club, spend massive overs for a players who even at the time wasn't worth it, have not bothered to secure a halfback since 2007 that they would play every week, have not bothered to sign a fullback since Hodgson left, had let our front row stocks get too depleted, has failed to bring through talent at similar rates as in the past, has been so poor at recruitment and retention and cap management that they are now resorting to old players on match payments.

Our depth is shattered, club morale is at an all time low, even after 3 wins, coach has no attacking plays at all.

Its the worst the club has looked since 2003.

Wonder what Humphreys thinks? Surely this cannot have escaped notice? Are all our management suffering from the 3 monkeys syndrome?

 

[benched tiger]

Well said MU a perfect summary of our club's past ,present and future.Sheens cops many a spray from the fans and rightly so, the other obvious areas that need addressing,are the WT recruitment and management departments, there performances are anything but what's required to run a professional football team.