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Oh Dear, Oh Dear

Skinner

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This, from Richard Becht on:

http://www.thewarriors.com.au/default.aspx?s=article-display&id=49669&title=the-week-that-was-



Mount Smart Stadium’s second triple header in a year has again managed to deliver triple joy but it hasn’t succeeded in quelling the deafening – and sadly ugly – roar of discontent from one part of the Vodafone Warriors’ support base. More is the pity.

It was in the fifth round last year that the Vodafone Warriors hosted the Sydney Roosters on a Saturday, turning it into an event by kicking off the programme with the New South Wales Cup encounter between the Auckland Vulcans and Roosters feeder club Newtown.

For those who may not remember the day clearly, the Vulcans overwhelmed the Jets 60-10, the Vodafone Junior Warriors delivered a 42-0 knockout in the NYC contest and the Vodafone Warriors beat the Roosters 24-12.

Something else, and this is instructive given the rumblings at the moment, the Vulcans happened to include a number of first graders on that occasion including Brett Seymour, Russell Packer, Kevin Locke and Joel Moon. Unless the memory is fading a bit, there wasn’t any great outpouring of vitriol about others being in the NRL side ahead of them.

Move forward a year, though, and venomous comments – there’s no kinder description for it – have been leaping out of posts on the club’s Facebook page and via various other outlets. It’s one of the ugly – that word again – by-products of this age. Social media networks have a lot to answer for at times like this; they give everyone and anyone a voice with the outcome often being anything but becoming.

Such has been the case lately in matters surrounding the Vodafone Warriors, reaching a crescendo following the third-round loss to the Bulldogs last week. Repeat, this was after the third round when the record showed a win and two losses. Judging by the tone of the comments, anyone could have been forgiven for thinking the end of the world, or something approaching it, was nigh. Much of the language used was infantile at best, generally accusatory in the extreme. Quite why people purporting to be ‘loyal fans’ feel the need to be so personal and so destructive is a challenge to understand.

So, better accept the inescapable (and unpalatable) truth that too many folk, when confronted with circumstances failing to match their expectations, simply don’t comprehend the virtues embodied in patience, tolerance, decency and respect. More likely they’ve never heard of the words before or certainly wouldn’t know what they mean.

It was against such a backdrop that the Vodafone Warriors – and the Vulcans – went into 2012’s early-season edition of the triple header concept. It yielded good results again, too, with the Vulcans outgunning Manly 48-24, the Vodafone Junior Warriors finishing 30-6 ahead of the young Titans and the Vodafone Warriors rounding the night off with a 26-6 victory. Ordinarily such a series of results would be a cause for celebration and, for most, they have been.

There are some, though, who just can’t and won’t let ago. It’s a shame, a real shame, when it comes to this, to exposing New Zealand sport's unsavoury underbelly. And to think this is happening when the Vodafone Warriors have won two of their first four matches of the season. Perish the thought if they'd had three straight losses of the type Wests Tigers have just experienced.
 

Rich102

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Easy answer to that! Shut down the Club's facebook page.

The club wants the fans to have a say - but only in a way that is flattering to the club.
Get real.
 
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What a nothing article.

Those with 'extreme opinions' are a part of life. Every sporting team, every social issue, every time a sparrow farts, it brings out the crazies. People just look for an excuse to moan and/or vent even if everythings ticking along nicely. It's just an unfortunate part of human nature, and not something exclusive to warriors fans.

Back in the hay day of the Australian cricket team when they were slaying every side in the world, the fans still moaned. They found a weak point, whether it was a batsmen averaging under 45, or a player who was knocking on the selectors doors, they bleeted and cried from the rooftops as if the management team deserved to be prosecuted at the Hague.
 
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Easy answer to that! Shut down the Club's facebook page.

The club wants the fans to have a say - but only in a way that is flattering to the club.
Get real.

Exactly. You can't take advantage of all of the benefits of Facebook (free promotion, brand loyalty etc) and not expect to have to put up with some of the negatives.

Pretty easily managed with a half decent social media strategy.
 

Izz

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Have to say, allowing that article to be posted is imo a stupid PR move. "Let's whine, that'll stop the fans--if that's what they really are, because real fans wouldn't ever say anything less than positive about their club--saying mean things about us."

What a melodramatic piece of nothing.
 

Skinner

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The club wants the fans to have a say - but only in a way that is flattering to the club.
Get real.

That is exactly why the Vodafone One Tribe and it's later iteration were shut dow.......the truth hurts as they say.

I usually don't mind Becht's stuff but that was simply petulent.
 

Penrose Warrior

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Those of a younger vintage may not know that in a previous employment, Richard Becht was the sports editor of the Sunday News. A lot of us will also know that the Sunday News is a tabloid publication.

Without having any evidence as it was a long time ago, I can assure all and sundry that Richard was not averse to sticking the boot in, publishing stories of a similar nature to these comments and not exactly painting the best picture of rugby league in general.

But now that his paymasters are the Warriors, it's a completely different story.

Awful piece of writing. Awful. The club needs to get rid of that quick-smart.
 

ozenzud

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I think its not the whinging but the targeting of individuals in a crap way that Becht is talking about. People think is OK to be abusive on Facebook and social media....like leagueunlimited. Sorry, I'm keen on the social media and happy to have a good online argument, but abuse is abuse. I'm with Becht. Maybe I'm showing my age. I respect people and especially league people. Criticism and respect can go hand in hand and part of life. Abuse, thats optional.
 

TheDMC

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If a reader of Becht's article didn't follow the warrior's facebook, or on this forum or similar, they wouldn't have a clue as to what he is on about. Laughably poor PR Richard and horrible writing.
 

hitman82

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I think its not the whinging but the targeting of individuals in a crap way that Becht is talking about. People think is OK to be abusive on Facebook and social media....like leagueunlimited. Sorry, I'm keen on the social media and happy to have a good online argument, but abuse is abuse. I'm with Becht. Maybe I'm showing my age. I respect people and especially league people. Criticism and respect can go hand in hand and part of life. Abuse, thats optional.

Best post in this thread.

Lay off the JBro, mofos.
 

Penrose Warrior

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And this is obviously another chapter in the Inu saga. I still think one day we're going to hear some side of the story and wonder why they didnt tell us right now.

As for the comment above, absolutely agree on the abuse thing. If that's what he's getting at, fair enough.

But Becht has always been a media prevention officer. There's been smoke signals and dancing around truths for years there. The Inu affair is clearly another example and fans are rightly afflicted, in my view.
 

Fast Eddie

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What a great article, I was never aware that the Warriors were the only professional sports team where fans got angry and vented sometimes.
 

ozbash

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What a great article, I was never aware that the Warriors were the only professional sports team where fans got angry and vented sometimes.

ironic

If you go to a Breakers game, you are actually warned beforehand about any anti Breakers, anti refs, anti anything displays !

Failure to comply means you get turfed..

I think the criticism of the coach and his selections was a bit ott last week.

I want all you haters/doubters to take a deep breath and chill the f**k out, ok ?

Particularly R+S and Skinner.. You'll be branded as troublemakers.
 

Skinner

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ironic

If you go to a Breakers game, you are actually warned beforehand about any anti Breakers, anti refs, anti anything displays !

Failure to comply means you get turfed..

I think the criticism of the coach and his selections was a bit ott last week.

I want all you haters/doubters to take a deep breath and chill the f**k out, ok ?

Particularly R+S and Skinner.. You'll be branded as troublemakers.

Judging by Richard's personal reply to my post on the facebook thread, my cards are already marked LOL.
 

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