One choice for the future of the game

[Stormwarning[c]]

After another week that everyone would rather forget there is now only one clear choice to protect and enhance the future of Rugby League.

ONE GOVERNING BODY for the whole code within this country.

I don't care who it is.

We can not continue to have 20 + bodies governing our code and having different rules with regards to behaviour and development.

I know that people like to protect their little power trips and that many of the current administrators would have no chance in hell in keeping their jobs.

ONE GOVERNING BODY for all levels of our code is the only way (I believe) we can get our house in order.

Question is how do we go about it?

 

[eastsrule]

I actually believe that is the smartest idea ever posted at LU. Diminish the ARL, NSWRL, QRL etc and put them all under the NRL banner.

 

[t-ba]

Two imho. all the Junior Functions under the ARL. if the NRL wants the games complete control, News Has to sacrifice part its share of the game and has to relinquish the $10 Million it is entitled to. Bill Harrigan should never be allowed near a rulebook again as well.

But yeah, something has to be done. Victoria has like 3 governing bodies below the NRL and ARL doesn't it?

 

[Stormwarning[c]]

Two imho. all the Junior Functions under the ARL. if the NRL wants the games complete control, News Has to sacrifice part its share of the game.

Point missed, already we are back to two bodies.

I really don't care who has control but there has to be ONLY one.

THE NFL do it in the States, the FA do it in England, dare I say it AFL do it.

I have no idea what the NRL, ARL, QRL, NSWRL, VRL or anyone else wants. I just believe that the time has come for us FANS, SUPPORTERS and CLUB members to say enough is enough.....get it sorted.

ONE BODY, ONE GAME......RUGBY LEAGUE

 

[t-ba]

Alot of them enjoy their little power trips, it'd be a bastard of a job trying to remove them.

Case in point-The CRL booting the Bears off the central coast.

 

[Stormwarning[c]]

I agree it will be hard and difficult to change. But a start would be the public voicing their view.

How many times have we seen changes due to public opition?

 

[t-ba]

Public opinion has really swayed the NRL to expand :roll: .

I don't think the NRL has the impetus to do anything so drastic (And there's administrators out there who hate the S word more than I do) and the ARL doesn't have the ability or resources to. Also, the NRL might not actually be interested enough to do anything like that, and it could take an age before they reacted to public opinion on the matter. It'd have to be sustained pressure over a number of years on all governing bodies, quite hard to maintain imho.

 

[Stormwarning[c]]

Well, I must thank some of those that have emailed me and believe this idea is a good one. It seems some people within some clubs believe so as well having recieved a couple of emails from people.

This has got me thinking. Yes I know, it can be dangerous me thinking and breathing at the same time.

How do we make this an idea an issue and create public debate about it.

Anyone that thinks this idea is a good one and would like to help bring this into public debate throughout the Rugby League community within a Australia, please let me know.

I not this is not the only idea out there but maybe we the fans need to start pushing some issues in a coordinated effort to protect and enhance the greatest game in the country.

 

[Rexxy]

This is a very good idea.

 

[Big Bunny]

It might be a good idea but it's also a very old one and an idea that the NRL and ARL are already examining and have been looking at for the last few years.

Some examples used are also flawed, so it does show that the forum member isn't fully aware of the logistics involved with moving toward one governing body. An example used was that of the NFL in America. Well to begin with the NFL does not run the game at all levels. Junior football in the US is run by AYF and at the college level the game is run by the NCAA. The indoor form of the sport is run by the AFLA and school leagues are controlled by the participating schools. The AFL doesn't have one united body either, or have you notified the SANFL, WAFL and TFL of their demise?

It would appear that very little thought has gone into this suggestion, however good the rough concept might be but the scope for installing such a drastic overhaul is too wide to not give firm ideas on how you'd go about it.

 

[Stormwarning[c]]

It might be a good idea but it's also a very old one and an idea that the NRL and ARL are already examining and have been looking at for the last few years.

Some examples used are also flawed, so it does show that the forum member isn't fully aware of the logistics involved with moving toward one governing body. An example used was that of the NFL in America. Well to begin with the NFL does not run the game at all levels. Junior football in the US is run by AYF and at the college level the game is run by the NCAA. The indoor form of the sport is run by the AFLA and school leagues are controlled by the participating schools. The AFL doesn't have one united body either, or have you notified the SANFL, WAFL and TFL of their demise?

It would appear that very little thought has gone into this suggestion, however good the rough concept might be but the scope for installing such a drastic overhaul is too wide to not give firm ideas on how you'd go about it.

Big Bunny, good to hear the BRL and ARL are looking at it, but it's the other bodies and clubs that could stop it progressing).

I also hate to say it you are wrong on a couple of points. The AFL is the governing body of Australian Rules in this country and the state bodies look after each state.

The rules, major sponsorship (which includes junior development around the country) and other development of the game are done in partnership with all state bodies but are governed and issued by the AFL.

The biggest problem installing an overhaul like this is the current governing bodies. They wont want to give up there protected little nest.

At the end of the day if the fans, supporters and club members want something like this then we need to let our clubs know. This would be the first step. Remember most clubs have a VOTED board. Doesn't take much to get an elected person worried.

Do I think this would happen over night?.....no, never have, but if we don't start somewhere we will never get there.

Do I care who the governing body is?........no, not really as long as it is going to make our code the way it use to be, the best and most respected in the country. (Yes I'm from Melbourne and during the 70's it was a big thing to sit in front of the TV and watch the game of the week from Sydney).

I'm not earning hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop how it would work and work well. Would like to, but no, I'm just a fan that wants something better than what we have.

Oh, and although I'm in Melbourne I support the game everyway I can, including traveling interstate and becoming a member of a number of Leagues Clubs to show support to the code.

I guess we could all just sit back and complain about this and that, but if we don't get off our arse and become part of the soultion we can't expect much more than we have had over the past 4 months.

This is our game

 

[Anonymous]

I actually believe that is the smartest idea ever posted at LU. Diminish the ARL, NSWRL, QRL etc and put them all under the NRL banner.

No. It must return to the ARL banner. Thats what everyone wants to see. At least I do.

 

[Southernsaint]

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Two imho. all the Junior Functions under the ARL. if the NRL wants the games complete control, News Has to sacrifice part its share of the game.

Point missed, already we are back to two bodies.

I really don't care who has control but there has to be ONLY one.

THE NFL do it in the States, the FA do it in England, dare I say it AFL do it.

I have no idea what the NRL, ARL, QRL, NSWRL, VRL or anyone else wants. I just believe that the time has come for us FANS, SUPPORTERS and CLUB members to say enough is enough.....get it sorted.

ONE BODY, ONE GAME......RUGBY LEAGUE

I don't want to be picky but the FA in England run the FA Cup & the England side. The Premier League is self-governing & the Football League (Divisions 1 to 3) are also run by the FA, I believe.

However, whilst you have a good idea, I wouldn't trust the NRL "Partnership :roll: " with total control of the game.

Cheers,
Ben S.

 

[DIEHARD]

The ARL must run the game, we can't let News Ltd gain anymore control.

I can't believe anyone would think having the ARL, QRL and NSWRL under the NRL is a good idea. It would be if it was under the ARL.

 

[macavity]

Down with News Ltd. :evil:

How can we let the organisation that tried to kill RL because it didn't get the broadcasting rights have a say in how the game is run.

How can we be getting the best deal everywhere if the organisation who should be our biggest customers (in a competitive market....) ..... run the game.

Money is what it is all about, on every level. Until the money is distributed by an organisation with a zero-profit growth/development approach, run with a lean structure and with ultimate responsibility for ALL facets of the game Australia wide... we are going to struggle.

Sport is now a business. Sad but true. It must be run on sound business principles. But with an overall aim of promoting the game, and focussing all efforts on doing so.

The clear structures in place would help no end also.


I just wish we knew how it could be achieved. We have to convince News that it is neccessary (which it is) and in their best interests (I doubt they would see it that way).

Maybe every league fan in Australia could donate $100.... and we could all buy News out of the game!!!!!!!!!

I wish!

 

[dimitri]

i agree

needs to be arl

not nrl

 

[t-ba]

I agree. I'm uncomftorable with news Holding a share in every level of the game.

 

[Alan Shore]

Bring everything under the NRL banner. Get rid of the CRL, VRL, QRL, WARL, whatever, you name it. Abolish them all!

 

[Stormwarning[c]]

I take the point about the FA, but at the end of the day they are the governing body of the code in England.

I honestly don't care if it is the ARL, NRL, PRL (Pacific), SRL (Stormwarning's) just one governing body. I also agree that it has to be a body not owned by a large mutlinational corporatation.

I don't think we abolish any of the current bodies, as they need to work with the governing body to ensure the codes success.

 

[Big Bunny]

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I also hate to say it you are wrong on a couple of points. The AFL is the governing body of Australian Rules in this country and the state bodies look after each state.

The rules, major sponsorship (which includes junior development around the country) and other development of the game are done in partnership with all state bodies but are governed and issued by the AFL.

No, that's an example of nitpicking. The AFL has no say over what the SANFL or other state bodies do. They do however work in conjunction with those bodies as you say. That is exactly the same situation that we find ourselves in with the ARL, CRL, VRL etc. Either you are for it or against it, but please don't justify your aim with a skewed perspective.

The biggest problem installing an overhaul like this is the current governing bodies. They wont want to give up there protected little nest.

At the end of the day if the fans, supporters and club members want something like this then we need to let our clubs know. This would be the first step. Remember most clubs have a VOTED board. Doesn't take much to get an elected person worried.

Do I think this would happen over night?.....no, never have, but if we don't start somewhere we will never get there.

Do I care who the governing body is?........no, not really as long as it is going to make our code the way it use to be, the best and most respected in the country. (Yes I'm from Melbourne and during the 70's it was a big thing to sit in front of the TV and watch the game of the week from Sydney).

I'm not earning hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop how it would work and work well. Would like to, but no, I'm just a fan that wants something better than what we have.

Oh, and although I'm in Melbourne I support the game everyway I can, including traveling interstate and becoming a member of a number of Leagues Clubs to show support to the code.

I guess we could all just sit back and complain about this and that, but if we don't get off our arse and become part of the soultion we can't expect much more than we have had over the past 4 months.

This is our game

I'm not questioning your aim, passion or belief but having an opinion on exactly how things should be done doesn't require a salary of "hundreds of thousands of dollars." It can be done by sitting down, examining what we have and putting forward reasonable suggestions and developing pathways for those to be implemented. Throwing up blank statements and then saying that we take it to the current governing bodies won't get you anywhere. You do need to know what your direction is and you also need to know which path is the one you wish to take.

I do agree with the concept of one governing body, but you need to put some serious thought into its development if you want people to rally behind this or any concept.