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Perth Red

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The new TV deal is likely to wipe out the NRLs annual surpluses they have enjoyed over the last two years. That means for Vlandys to get his future fund" of $200million to invest in assets there are going to have to be massive cuts in non revenue generating areas. This may well be a driver for saving around $2mill a year on the second ref and another $2mill a year on the bunker.
 

PARRA_FAN

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I dont care either way as long as they cut out the blunders and penalise them more for obvious slowing down the ruck.

We're still gonna have the same issues with coaches and media whinging about rule changes

Hopefully with Vlandys and Abdo in charge, once a rule has been changed, its done properly.
 

big hit!

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Realistically what will it save? maybe $2mill a year? Touchies going to need some retraining on how to do their job.

I’m in favour, one ref games flow better.

THIS! seriously, they've been redundant for years. video does their job. take a look at rugby, soccer, or american football to see how much input sideline judges have in the officiating of a game
 
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Against going to one referee.

Unless ruling on some aspects of gameplay is shared out to touch judges and/or some rules changed, then I cannot see how one person can effectively all the rules of the game eg referee the ruck, the ten metres, and general gameplay.

The modern game is way too fast. Teams will naturally look to take advantage wherever they can and exploit rules. The one referee will have to be fitter and faster than ever to keep up.

Will fans be happy to overlook errors that go against their team? eg opposition regularly offside, guesswork in ball lost in a tackle, forward passes missed, knock-ons... well they haven’t since 1908 so doubt that’s gonna change.

All the pressure will be on one referee to cover it all. And aside from the fans, modern day commentators all think they are Simon Cowell and blow up relentlessly when something goes against their view.

In my opinion that’s way too much to ask of one referee.

As for many who want to “let the game flow”.. this generally means less penalties. And less penalties will usually mean overlooking the rules of the game. Which to me is farcical. If a team or player flouts the rules they should be penalised - because if they aren’t then the opposition suffer.

2 referees needed but I’ll be interested to see how it goes if they do it.
So you don't take the English SL and internationals seriously then? I understand if you don't. IMO go to a 5 metre defensive line and 11-a-side. Get rid of the scrum. Allow players to roll the ball under their foot or knee, as long as the foot is on the inside of the ball or behind the standing leg.
 
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So you don't take the English SL and internationals seriously then? I understand if you don't. IMO go to a 5 metre defensive line and 11-a-side. Get rid of the scrum. Allow players to roll the ball under their foot or knee, as long as the foot is on the inside of the ball or behind the standing leg.

I do take them seriously. But really believe 2 refs are the way to go.

One thing the English SL has over the NRL is much more positive commentary, focussing on the game play rather than harp on perceived refereeing errors. It the biggest blight on the game here in my opinion, and has been for a while.

Refs might get 9 out of 10 decisions right, but you’ll get bludgeoned to death with Braith Anasta’s verbal vomit for 2 minutes from the comfort of his commentary box if a bloke with a whistle running his arse off on a footy field makes a perceived error. England are far more mature than Australia in this regard.
 

Perth Red

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I do take them seriously. But really believe 2 refs are the way to go.

One thing the English SL has over the NRL is much more positive commentary, focussing on the game play rather than harp on perceived refereeing errors. It the biggest blight on the game here in my opinion, and has been for a while.

Refs might get 9 out of 10 decisions right, but you’ll get bludgeoned to death with Braith Anasta’s verbal vomit for 2 minutes from the comfort of his commentary box if a bloke with a whistle running his arse off on a footy field makes a perceived error. England are far more mature than Australia in this regard.


Hit the nail on the head. One or two refs isnt the big issue. Watching games from the nineties the much fewer replays of every decision from every angle and the constant bleating fo the likes of Gould and Anasta when they get it wrong made the game so much more enjoyable to watch.

Our “partners”, lol, need to get on board and lay off dissecting every decision in super slo mo. Half the time even when the slo mo shows the ref was right or it was 50/50 they still carry on like it was a wrong call!
 
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Hit the nail on the head. One or two refs isnt the big issue. Watching games from the nineties the much fewer replays of every decision from every angle and the constant bleating fo the likes of Gould and Anasta when they get it wrong made the game so much more enjoyable to watch.

Our “partners”, lol, need to get on board and lay off dissecting every decision in super slo mo. Half the time even when the slo mo shows the ref was right or it was 50/50 they still carry on like it was a wrong call!

An example if I may.. a positive one..

Listening to the Rugby League Digest Podcast and they had an episode on the 1985 Challenge Cup final Wigan vs Hull at Wembley. A comment they made was that is was simply a “fun game to watch”. Many reasons why, but when I watched it myself a stark thing for me was the commentators... they were absolutely brilliant, called the game play in a manner befitting the occasion. And if there was a potential ref error there might be a slight mention of it such as “could have been forward but the referee didn’t see it like that.... “..

Highly recommend watching if you have the time. So many great players of the past and a brilliant spectacle all around. There’s shorter versions of highlights on YouTube but the full match below. If only we had commentary like this in the modern game.

 

Frailty

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I'm not really against one referee - as it should have some positive effects if implemented correctly.

By having one referee they are effectively increasing competition amongst the referees squad. This should improve accountability (no reliance on 'well we don't have anyone ready to come up') and drive up performance. Of course, this relies on referees' bosses adequately assessing performance and being active
 

_snafu_

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Since when have they been pinged for this anyway?

The refs started pinging them (and everyone else) when Greenberg directed the refs to enforce the ruck. Instead of the players modifying their behaviour and stop infringing, the commentators started complaining about how many penalties were being blown (and not the fact that the players were blatantly infringing).
 

forby

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If you do away with penalties for slowing play the balls and just give 6 again how does this penalise the defensive team? How can you sin bin somebody for repeated infringements if you don’t get penalised? It would be so arbitrary to enforce as when do you give the 6 again? And it could end up that attacking teams hold tacklers to get 6 again more than it happens now! One referee couldn’t enforce both the ruck and the offside.
 

beave

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Sometimes I wished I never loved this game.

V’landys is the worst thing to ever happen the NRL.
 
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ReddFelon

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What's the 6 again rule?

Basically if you commit a ruck infringement you play advantage, so it's tackle three and Cameron Smith does a Cameron Smith, tackle count resets to one. This is effectively the rugby league equivalent to the short arm advantage in rugby union.
 

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