how come ek999 seems to know so much about this Tim Hardy?
How come you don't know how to read someones name properly?
And it's because I'm an AFL troll/sypathiser/lover/whatever else you want to call me, obviously.
f**kwit
how come ek999 seems to know so much about this Tim Hardy?
He isn't employed by the AFL
This is a football forum not a vehicle to perpetuate your agenda against the Government. Actions have consequences and it is almost impossible to comment until the investigations are complete.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...o-rebecca-wilson/story-fni3fh9n-1226675011958Rebecca Wilson: New Cronulla Sharks boss has his head stuck in the sand
Rebecca Wilson
The Daily Telegraph
July 06, 2013 12:00AM
THE Cronulla Sharks’ new chairman, Damian Keogh, had a huge chance to wipe the slate clean at the deeply troubled club when he stepped into the top job several weeks ago.
But there has been no clear public statement like that from AFL side Essendon from the club. Keogh has spent his time in the chair trying to reinstate club officials who were allegedly part of the events of the 2011 season that are now part of the ASADA investigation.
I believe Keogh, like many followers of either Essendon or Cronulla, are in denial. He has seen the ASADA investigation stall and appears to hope that it will soon go away. But the new powers handed to ASADA by the Federal Government last week will mean the drug agency has unprecedented access to information, records and statements that they will use as evidence in their probe.
The whole club need to face the fact that Cronulla's very survival is on the line here, otherwise ASADA and the NRL will have more ammunition for their investigation.
ASADA has moved slowly but deliberately towards an outcome at Essendon which is now just weeks away.
I have no doubt that at least a handful of players and officials will be handed violations, and that some may lose their livelihoods.
This is not the figment of my imagination. It is real very, very real and it's coming to Cronulla within weeks.
Channel Nine's Tim Gilbert appeared on Wide World of Sports last Sunday and proclaimed the drugs investigation was 'boring'. Gilbert claimed there had been no positive tests so there would be no doping violations. He might have made himself aware of the Lance Armstrong case before he said that. After all, Armstrong never returned a positive test.
The story was a storm in a teacup, he said, the government had gone off 'half cocked' and let's all forget about it. He also said that Jobe Watson should hold on to his Brownlow because he had done nothing wrong. But, this opinion doesn't take into account Watson's admission on national television that he had been injected with a prohibited substance and WADA's strict view on them.
Sadly, Gilbert's views are reflected throughout the wider football community which remains steadfast in its support of the footballers involved.
Yesterday's stunning poll results reveal, however, a stunning 12 per cent of all sports fans believe the Cronulla sharks are dishonest. Away from the Sharks Shire heartland, genuine Australian sports fans understand the implications of what went down in Cronulla in 2011.
This result in itself should be enough for Keogh to abandon any idea of band-aid solutions. I think reinstatement of four club officials who inadvertently admitted in the Kavanagh report there was a doping issue at the club will only add to the club's already diminishing reputation. Footy clubs are not run on charity. Sponsors are the key to any club's survival and they have deserted the Sharks in their droves. They will not be attracted back with glad-handing those who were sacked over the issue.
In recent days, I understand Keogh and several board members have had a close look at Essendon and the way it handled the investigations. They are shocked by advice from various legal sources that players will have the right to sue the club for a breach of duty of care if violations are issued.
The penny may have dropped that if you are a board member, you have certain rules of governance that mean you are culpable if things go pear shaped. It is all very well to pat sacked staff on the back and hand them back their jobs. It is entirely another to be held personally responsible for an alleged systemic doping program that spanned at least 11 weeks in 2011.
Club insiders have told me this week that they are deeply concerned the new board has no grasp on the issues at hand. Legal advice handed to Keogh that he should reinstate the sacked staff was questioned by those who believe ASADA will simply produce the statements sacked club officials have already made to Trish Kavanagh. Essendon has said this week that they will continue to pay any player or official who is found guilty of a doping violation even while they are under suspension.
Cronulla have no big cash pot on which to draw if the same happens there.
The club 'will be on its knees' according to a club insider who believes that even the legal fees will see the club being forced to shut its doors.
It appears Damian Keogh has a Grade A governance issue. Because ASADA curtailed the player interviews six weeks ago, it seems a false sense of security has set in at the Sharks.
Lance Armstrong was banned for life without uttering a single word to the United States Anti-Drug Administration.
This is not going away and no amount of shoring up local support within the Cronulla shire will deny the fact that the club has some serious questions to answer.
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Last time I checked, sports scientist Stephen Dank was not an employee with any footy club. So it was with some curiosity I saw a story quoting him this week saying Jobe Watson should keep his Brownlow medal.
Can someone explain how Dank is in a position to comment on Watson or any other player, given he holds no position of authority at any football club?
But there has been no clear public statement like that from AFL side Essendon from the club
ESSENDON has declared that anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 is not performance enhancing after seeking its own independent advice.
The club says there is still new information being uncovered in the ASADA inquiry into its supplements use last season, and says its players are being denied due process.
"Any suggestion that Jobe Watson should be stood down from playing or stripped of his Brownlow Medal is premature and inappropriate and strongly rejected by the club.
The club has consistently stated that no one can yet be sure what happened at the club last year and that we're still not fully aware of precisely what took place."
But Essendon has repeatedly said it is confident its players did nothing illegal. Bombers CEO David Evans maintains his stance: "I am not prepared to concede our players have taken any banned substances
Fugg the Labor party
With a football.
Happy Coupe?
Drug cloud won't be lifted as Smith resists setting time frame on probe
Date
July 9, 2013
Adrian Proszenko
Chief Rugby League Reporter
NRL chief executive Dave Smith has refused to follow the lead of the AFL and provide a time frame for the completion of the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority's investigations, with a cloud certain to hang over rugby league well into next season.
The AFL has predicted ASADA will conclude its probe into Essendon by mid-next month, ensuring a resolution before its finals series.
AFL chief operating officer Gil McLachlan outlined the timeline last week as the anti-doping body moved closer to announcing its findings.
However, there are genuine concerns that investigations into rugby league, which centre on the legality of Cronulla's supplements program, will drag well into next year and potentially beyond.
It also opens up the prospect of the ARL Commission having to take retrospective action following the play-offs and grand final.
''I'm not going to put time frames on it, it will take as long as it has to,'' Smith said from England.
''We've been working with ASADA all along. The investigation hasn't stopped, it's kept going and it will keep going.
''They've got to do their job and they are being thorough. I can assure you we've been working with them all along and we will get an end result.''
While some Essendon players and officials have been re-interviewed, Sharks back-rower Wade Graham remains the only person still to be interviewed by the anti-doping body. However, an impasse over the level of co-operation required meant that interview, along with others planned for the Sharks, were abandoned.
Former federal sport minister Kate Lundy pushed new powers through Parliament for ASADA during the last sitting day before the election. Investigators hoped that, when they became law, they could compel Stephen Dank to submit to an interview.
However, the sports scientist - who has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing - believes his legal team will successfully challenge attempts to compel him to discuss his involvement at AFL and NRL clubs through the High Court.
Smith said he supported the widening of ASADA's powers, which included the ability to demand phone records, documents and medical prescriptions.
''We were very supportive of the changes going through Parliament,'' he said. ''That's gone on over a number of months. I was supportive, the code was supportive, as were a number of codes.
''When the bill is finalised - I think that will be in two or three weeks' time hopefully - it means ASADA will be able to do the job we need them to do with some of these emerging threats.''
Asked if he believed the amendment bill would fast-track the NRL investigations, Smith said: ''Those wider powers will help them to conduct their investigations.
''I'm not sure it makes it any easier per se but it gives them a wider range of powers for them to follow different avenues.''
The Sharks are a genuine premiership threat and were in fourth place on the competition ladder before fifth-placed Manly hosted Parramatta on Monday night.
According to article 17 of the World Anti-Doping Authority code, which relates to the statute of limitations, the matter could potentially hang over the sport for up to eight years from the time of a doping offence.