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Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation part III

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bartman

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THE Federal Government has moved a step closer to forcing Dank to answer questions in an official ASADA interview.

Sports Minister Kate Lundy said legislation passed by the Senate would strengthen ASADA's investigative powers.

Under the bill, which the Government hopes to fast-track through the House of Representatives this week, ASADA can summon individuals using the threat of non-compliance fines of up to $5100 a day.
And that's the bit that will finally get the Sharks players fronting for interviews too...
 

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Just saw on sky news Australia sport report that essondon are stating it is yet to be proven that the suppliments that Watson took were banned. They interviewed essendon's vice captain from last year ( since retired) I think his name was Mc veigh who said as far as he is aware he never took a banned substance.

Seems essendon's pr dept are calling their captain and reigning brown low medalist a liar
 
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So assuming Watson is telling the truth (and why else would you throw yourself under a bus) , Essedon mgmt have either lied to the media or they have lied to ASADA (or both). This is going to make for interesting viewing, particularly if Watson was the only one to break ranks.

#Don'tBeASnitch
#ButIfYouDoBeTheFirstOne
 

Card Shark

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Indeed. Will be a travesty if they don't have all of this sorted out before the finals so they can deduct the competition points and let another team fill the Shark's semi-finals place.

Hope your team finishes 9th so they can get that spot ;)

If they are going to ban our players, lets get it done now. Why wait any longer???
 

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$5100 per day (per-player?) will send Cronulla broke again.

Gotta laugh at the AFL, they cover stuff up all the time but now it's one of their biggest clubs they are looking more like fools every day
 

byrner

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$5100 per day (per-player?) will send Cronulla broke again.

Gotta laugh at the AFL, they cover stuff up all the time but now it's one of their biggest clubs they are looking more like fools every day

This fine could only be if someone doesnt turn up to the interview. Doesnt mean they have to say anything when they are there.

Wasnt it ASADA who called off the Cronulla interviews?

While I am at it, who the f..k are ASADA and WADA? They are being promoted as a govt. body similar to the police force. Why should they have the ability to fine someone for not turning up the their interviews?
 

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I could be wrong but i think ASADA is funded thru the Federal Govt and the Fed's give funding to RL and AFL and other sports, so if any sports have drug cheats they need to be weeded out. If ASADA finds cheating and hands over a report and the governing body does nothing, then the Fed Govt won't give them funding. ASADA also is ruled by WADA.

Like I said, I could be wrong but that's my understanding
 

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I could be wrong but i think ASADA is funded thru the Federal Govt and the Fed's give funding to RL and AFL and other sports, so if any sports have drug cheats they need to be weeded out. If ASADA finds cheating and hands over a report and the governing body does nothing, then the Fed Govt won't give them funding. ASADA also is ruled by WADA.

Like I said, I could be wrong but that's my understanding

This is somewhat true.

ASADA is a government body to apply the WADA code. A sporting body in Australia must submit to the WADA code (and thus ASADA) to be given federal funding. This is similar in the US with USADA.

However, the NFL, UFC, and other american sporting organisations are so popular and do not need federal funding that they do not submit to USADA. They may apply the WADA code but do it 'in house'. UFC submit to the athletic commission which are state based, but do not require all year testing.
 
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For those who think that bans can be taken in the off season..NO.
Bans apply to the Football season .
If player A is banned for 6 months ,in September(& his club is out of the finals) ,then his banning would commence at the start of the next season (don't know if pre season comp games are included ).
 

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...k-doping-inquiry/story-e6frg6n6-1226671641005

Cash-strapped Sharks launch a bid to fast-track doping inquiry

by: Brent Read
From: The Australian
June 29, 2013 12:00AM

CRONULLA chairman Damian Keogh will hold talks with the NRL next week and hasn't ruled out travelling to Canberra to meet officials from the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Agency as he looks to fast-track the investigation into the club.

Concerned by the ongoing drain on the club's finances brought about by the ASADA investigation into supplement use at the Sharks two years ago, Keogh has organised a meeting with NRL chief executive Dave Smith to discuss the situation, which appears to have hit an impasse since the cancellation of player interviews last month.

The club and a group of its players remain under investigation over a period in 2011 when controversial sports scientist Steve Dank was at the club. Dank is yet to be interviewed by ASADA but he is expected to be called before the anti-doping agency under new legislation passed this week.

Under the legislation, a person can be fined $5100 each day they refuse to co-operate with ASADA. While the legislation will affect Dank, it is unlikely to have any direct impact on the investigation into the Sharks because Cronulla players had already agreed to be interviewed.

Those interviews were cancelled by ASADA over a perceived lack of co-operation. Under the legislation, players retain the right to refuse to answer questions on the grounds of self-incrimination, one of the key sticking points which led to the current stand-off.

Keogh wants the matter resolved and will go to the NRL, and possibly ASADA, to get it sorted.

"We will wait to see what the NRL view is," Keogh said. "If they don't have much clarity about where things are going, I am certainly not averse to a trip to Canberra to find out what's going on.

"There is still a major shadow being cast. We are making moves to move forward and we have some really good people helping us out. But the ongoing issue with it that concerns me is the economic harm that is being caused.

"It's massive economic harm on the club."

Keogh estimates the inquiry has already cost the club in excess of $1 million and the fear is that it will drag beyond the end of the 2013 season and into 2014.

If that happens, the damage will be devastating. The Sharks are yet to bed down a major sponsor and the club is already in a situation where it will be forced to rely on the NRL for financial support.

"You would like to have a natural conclusion or time line about what's going to happen," Keogh said. "We can't afford that to drag on again. We're not the wealthiest side in the competition. I would rather a conclusion to it prior to the 2014 season.

"We're talking about something that happened for 10 weeks back in 2011. But at the same time we are more than interested to sit back and see how the AFL stuff unfolds."

While the NRL investigation appears to have stalled, the investigation into AFL club Essendon is in full swing, highlighted by an admission from Bombers captain Jobe Watson this week that he was injected with the banned substance AOD-9604 last year.

Next week shapes as a decisive one for Cronulla. It is understood that at a board meeting last Thursday, directors also discussed the futures of the four officials sacked in the wake of the ASADA investigation.

The board was given legal advice over the quartet and depending on the NRL's reaction to that advice, all four could be reinstated in the near future.
 

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For those who think that bans can be taken in the off season..NO.
Bans apply to the Football season .
If player A is banned for 6 months ,in September(& his club is out of the finals) ,then his banning would commence at the start of the next season (don't know if pre season comp games are included ).

Not necessarily. You forget about a world cup this year starting late October until the end of November. Pre-season could start in Late January if clubs get smart too.
 
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Not necessarily. You forget about a world cup this year starting late October until the end of November. Pre-season could start in Late January if clubs get smart too.
Mate my reply was directed at a poster saying AFL players would get banned for 6 months & it would be in the off season.

RL players could (& I am just guessing) probably use the WC or 4 nations IF they could prove they WOULD have been certainly selected.
 

gUt

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That's such bullshit. How desperate are they to paint the Essingwood players as victims when they're obviously just (alleged) doping drug cheats.
 

Diesel

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If the club is found guilty then shouldn't the club be forced to sit out the next 6-24 months?

Players then become free agents
 

Frailty

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If the club is found guilty then shouldn't the club be forced to sit out the next 6-24 months?

Players then become free agents

This, it was my impression if it had been systematic doping then action must be taken to expel the club from competition.
 

Walt Flanigan

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I hate when they say things like "If a young kid is in his first year with the club he's not going to question the coach or club".

One quick phone call to ask if what they're taking is legit is all that is required. They're adults FFS.
 
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