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Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation part III

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bartman

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This isn't an AFL vs League thing to me.
Exactly.

Maybe they have proof that individual Sharks players kept going to Dank (at that Bankstown clinic) after the club ended Dank's employment? So it's a fundamentally different situation to that at Essendon where use appeared to be all sanctioned by the club, and so different level of "deal" would apply.

Like everyone, I just want the Cronulla investigation resolved and any punishments issued so the game can move on. It must be said that the Sharks players and legal advisers have brought on this delay and the unfortunate timing themselves, by not cooperating in ASADA's first attempt at interviews.
 
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Exactly.

Maybe they have proof that individual Sharks players kept going to Dank (at that Bankstown clinic) after the club ended Dank's employment? So it's a fundamentally different situation to that at Essendon where use appeared to be all sanctioned by the club, and so different level of "deal" would apply.

Like everyone, I just want the Cronulla investigation resolved and any punishments issued so the game can move on. It must be said that the Sharks players and legal advisers have brought on this delay and the unfortunate timing themselves, by not cooperating in ASADA's first attempt at interviews.

One player .

Not players.
 

bartman

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One player, who reportedly indicated all other players would follow the same course of behaviour, resulting in interviews with all players being delayed.
 

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The images, captured and screened by Fox Sports' pre-game dressing room coverage, throw up a number of new questions about how closely Dank was associated with Cronulla's playing roster.
In an email to former Sharks chairman Damian Irvine in February this year, Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan stated of Dank's tenure at the club: "Once our season began Mr Dank's involvement was never direct with the team. He was behind the scenes helping Trent (Elkin) in his area of strength and conditioning."
Yet the dressing room images from the Sharks matches in rounds 7, 8, 11 and 12 of 2011 suggests Dank was closely involved with the team.
They also raise the question: what was Dank doing there if he was told to have "nothing to do with the players" after sacked doctor David Givney sounded the alarm on the club's supplements program in an email dated April 6, 2011.
Cronulla's round seven loss to North Queensland took place on April 23, almost three weeks after Givney emailed Flanagan and sacked football manager Darren Mooney blowing up about Dank's involvement.
The club's round eight loss against South Sydney took place on April 29, while the 40-6 round 11 defeat to Parramatta, where Dank is pictured wearing a Sharks hooded top and polo shirt, was on May 23 - more than six weeks after Givney's warning email.
Finally, after the Sharks suffered a 14-8 defeat to the Storm in Melbourne, Flanagan told Dank he was no longer welcome at the club.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal the supplements program at Cronulla is understood to have been divided into three groups: a weight and mass program, an injury recovery program and a supplement program.
In a statement that he provided to the club in February, sacked football manager Darren Mooney, said he "could not recall" Dank being in the Sharks' inner sanctum at three of the four games in question.
The Daily Telegraph has also learned a number of emails sent and received on the Cronulla Sharks computer system from the 2011 period in question were erased.
However, when the NRL sent forensic accountants from Deloitte into the club in February the emails were recovered and have since been passed on to the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority.
The Daily Telegraph is not suggesting anyone named in the article deleted the emails.
It has also been learned Cronulla's commercial manager Luke Edmonds has been asked by anti-doping authorities to submit to an interview.
The ASADA interviews will begin again on August 1 next week with the NRL to play a role in the process by sending a representative into each interview. If, in the NRL's view, players are found to have not provided reasonable assistance then the game's governing body has threatened sanctions.
As revealed in The Daily Telegraph Monday via new documents, at least eight Cronulla players including captain Paul Gallen were in negotiations over alleged anti-doping violations in March on the basis that Cronulla staff directed them to use certain supplements, now believed to be prohibited peptides, and were advised the products had been cleared by ASADA.
The documents also showed the Sharks players felt they were let down by the club.
Gallen is believed to have requested three State of Origin payments of $30,000 each, an Australian Test match payment of $20,000 and over $100,000 in sponsorships be included as part of his package.
The NSW State of Origin captain is also believed to have requested two Toyota vehicles and a Harley Davidson motorcycle be compensated.
The other Sharks players in negotiations to accept a six month anti-doping sanction included Wade Graham, Nathan Gardner, Nathan Stapleton, Matthew Wright, Stewart Mills and Jayson Bukuya.
Surprisingly, prop Bryce Gibbs, who was still contracted to Wests Tigers in 2011, was also named in documents obtained by The Daily Telegraph.
Gibbs was unavailable for comment Tuesday night.
According to statements given to Trish Kavanagh for the independent report into the Sharks supplements program in 2011, Cronulla were subjected to an 11-week regimen of injections, tablets and creams of banned peptides.
At least eight Sharks players were in negotiations exploring anti-doping violations in March, when the club learned that ex-trainer Trent Elkin had become a whistleblower for ASADA.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...lla-sharks-sheds/story-fni3gol8-1226684009697

The headline in this article is pretty irrelevant. Big whoop he was there, we knew he was there. IMO the more interesting parts of the article I have bolded.
 

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The ASADA interviews will begin again on August 1 next week with the NRL to play a role in the process by sending a representative into each interview. If, in the NRL's view, players are found to have not provided reasonable assistance then the game's governing body has threatened sanctions.
About time the code got serious about these peptide ass-clowns hiding behind their lawyers' petticoats, and gets us to the bottom of what did or didn't go on.
 

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...when the club learned that ex-trainer Trent Elkin had become a whistleblower for ASADA.

a) Hasn't Trent denied this?
b) How can a club learn anything? Even in some far flung universe if a sporting club had a brain and was capable of cognition, a journalist has no special powers to understand what it had "learned". Don't know why they teach journalism at universities; in the real world there is only this sloppy garbage that says nothing but at the same time says just enough to convince gullible readers of their authority on a subject.

Conclusion: Whenever the DT name names I'm pretty much just hoping it comes back to bite them on the arse with a lawsuit.
 

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...lla-sharks-sheds/story-fni3gol8-1226684009697

The headline in this article is pretty irrelevant. Big whoop he was there, we knew he was there. IMO the more interesting parts of the article I have bolded.

Nothing in that article is new, it's just old news regurgitated by DUI Beccy and her mates.
Omg emails were deleted!!! Stop the press.
Emails are deleted everyday.

As for pictures of Dank in the dressing sheds - FMD he worked for the club, he was in the sheds. Is there a pic of him injecting anyone? No?
I've been in the sheds pregame several times - where's the pics of that?!?!?!

DT next headline: Pilot spotted in aircraft cockpit.
 

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Conclusion: Whenever the DT name names I'm pretty much just hoping it comes back to bite them on the arse with a lawsuit.

It's conned that tosser Ben Ikin on the Big Sports Breakfast this morning.

Afte reading the Telegraph this morning, he was carrying on how the AFL & Essendon have done all they can to end this as quickly as possible but the NRL have let it drag on. He doesn't stop to think that the AFL are underhanded & the NRL are following some sort of process.
 
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One player, who reportedly indicated all other players would follow the same course of behaviour, resulting in interviews with all players being delayed.


With the interview of only one player we'll never know.


Do police stop an investigation when the first suspect indicates that his fellow suspects will never talk ?!

Gtfo .



That was a knee jerk reaction from an inept organisation .
 
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About time the code got serious about these peptide ass-clowns hiding behind their lawyers' petticoats, and gets us to the bottom of what did or didn't go on.

What if someone genuinely doesn't know the answers to the questions ?

Will that be held against them ?



The idea that someone being investigated should have to provide assistance otherwise face a penalty is right out of Gestapo's play book.
 

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Say what you want about the AFL but it looks like they have done everything possible to bring their investigation to a quick resolution aswell as get the best possible result for the players involved, meanwhile the sharks are about to get raped again right before the finals.
 

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I wonder what, if any punishment the NRL will hand down to the Sharks IF found guilty.

The Sharks aren't a big club like Essendon is to the AFL, so any sanctions could permanently send this club back into a downward spiral.
 

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About time the code got serious about these peptide ass-clowns hiding behind their lawyers' petticoats, and gets us to the bottom of what did or didn't go on.


Except David Smith has said that Wade Graham was fine during the interview process and was cooperating well within his rights.
 

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With the interview of only one player we'll never know.


Do police stop an investigation when the first suspect indicates that his fellow suspects will never talk ?!

Gtfo .



That was a knee jerk reaction from an inept organisation .

Would love to see the response to this...

ASADA didn't have the evidence. They might now. Who knows?

I know that no one here does, and sure as f**k the DT doesn't either.

This is the same paper that continue to claims players confronted Elkin at his home, when the players listed AND Elkin both deny this.
 

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Diesel, we are already in a downward spiral. What looked like a promising year with the development getting approved / underway & the signing of a few much needed backs, has turned to shit.

The $10M received upon the signing of the development partnership is getting chewed up by lawyers. Our old board has been totally tossed out for a new lot, after a Kevin Rudd style campaign. They apparently haven't even formally met the development partners since they were elected but do find the time & money for less important things.

I couldn't imagine working in the environment this has caused - there must be so much pain in the club atm. All because of 1 or a few that acted outside of their juristriction.

5 people have fallen on their sword over this (excluding board elections) & I'm not sure they are the right 5. Either way, someone has to pay for what is a monumental f**k up, even if we are cleared.
 

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Looks like the cracks are starting to appear for DUI Bec on her version of events with this story. Even her own News Ltd colleagues think she's full of it.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...er-who-it-upsets/story-fniabjcr-1226684212593

Fat Pat is the one full of it

the deal is true and was first pointed out by Roy Masters

an ASADA employee actually quit the organisation when he found out it was true http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bombers-secret-deal-exposed-20130327-2guq0.html

ASADA counsel, John Marshall, SC, denied such a deal would be possible but the following day provided advice to Cronulla's legal team, led by Trish Kavanagh, that this was not the case.

Marshall was so irked by the revelation of a possible zero sanction to Essendon he told Cronulla counsel he was withdrawing from representing ASADA, for whom he had acted for 20 years.
 
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