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Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation

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docbrown

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I'm very interested to see if any action is taken against the AFL for pre empting the release of the report and making essendon public.

I doubt anything will happen.

The AFL know how to spin a story, the NRL don't. The NRL could've turned this into a story about how other sports prefer to sweep things under the table and deflect responsibility instead of coming out in the open.

Instead we'll keep hearing about X number of NRL clubs instead of why the AFL and ACC are refusing to release the name of AFL clubs that have a connection to recreational drug and crime issues. Anywhere from 7 to 9.
All you have to ask is: "what have they got to hide?"
 

Diesel

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The AFL get everyone to believe they are clean. It's their fabricated clean image it was they are trying to protect
 

some11

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Resilience my friends.. Regardless of what team you support, us NRL fans are a resilient mob. We have been through so much that would cripple any other sport. We always come through better and stronger, the fact of the matter is, Rugby League is the greatest game on earth and it will move on.

One day we might look back on all of this and be thankful... But we can still be pissed off at how piss poor it was handled.

f**ken right

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Perth Red

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Next big thing will be if it is individual players that have done wrong, and how many, or systematic cheating by club/s by filling the whole team with illegals. Obviously the latter would be far more damaging and have bigger repercussions.
 

GB!

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was there ever any doubt about manly?
we were the benchmark, why would we cheat?

haters 'gon hate!
 

El Diablo

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I'm very interested to see if any action is taken against the AFL for pre empting the release of the report and making essendon public.

Also very much thinking along the lines of diesel

i'm wondering why the media aren't chasing up who the other club is apart from Essendon

the club should have been told by Demetriou they had a player mentioned in the report as the ACC gave him permission to tell clubs

AFL journos were the first to name the 6 NRL clubs yet remain silent on the second AFL club
 
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Canard

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I doubt anything will happen.

The AFL know how to spin a story, the NRL don't. The NRL could've turned this into a story about how other sports prefer to sweep things under the table and deflect responsibility instead of coming out in the open.

Instead we'll keep hearing about X number of NRL clubs instead of why the AFL and ACC are refusing to release the name of AFL clubs that have a connection to recreational drug and crime issues. Anywhere from 7 to 9.
All you have to ask is: "what have they got to hide?"

As a Melbourne resident I can tell you this has basically not been news here.

The other code's identified team has been getting reamed by all and sundry.

Most commentators are saying it was stupid to come out early as it only drew attention to themselves
 

The Great Dane

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The Sharks have been very quiet in all this. As far as I'm aware the Knights held a press conference
And have been told its going back to 2005, Manly are in low-mid range shit but no player is involved, Penrith might be in a bit of trouble as Gus is a little more subjude than there other day. The Cowboys are dealing with low range troubles and probably in the best position of the 6 clubs. Canberra has been a little quiet too.

That's nothing new, they are always quiet about stuff like this. You won't hear anything from us unless you twist John Mcintyre arm out of the socket and even then he won't tell you much.
 

Spot On

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I'm apolitical, they are all arseholes; but, you and anothers have no idea of the legal process. It is called "Due Process".

I believe a few big names involved in league will fall by the end of it.





This fiasco would need to be a lot bigger than "a few big names" by the end of it. It was sold as the worst/darkest day in Aus sport and should be massive.
 

Perth Red

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Was in Brisbane airport yesterday and had a scan of the papers from each state. Not surprisingly the q'land and nsw papers led with the NRL clubs angle and the wa,sa and vic papers where full of the Essendon and afl angle. RL fans need to stop being so paranoid about the media and realise different states media are focussing on the stories of their main code.
 

thorson1987

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That's nothing new, they are always quiet about stuff like this. You won't hear anything from us unless you twist John Mcintyre arm out of the socket and even then he won't tell you much.

I don't think the Canberra players have a problem.

But the board do.

I mean, how long would any other club have kept furner as a coach for so long.
 

elbusto

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Was in Brisbane airport yesterday and had a scan of the papers from each state. Not surprisingly the q'land and nsw papers led with the NRL clubs angle and the wa,sa and vic papers where full of the Essendon and afl angle. RL fans need to stop being so paranoid about the media and realise different states media are focussing on the stories of their main code.
That is what I am seeing as well. The biggest Rugby League story in the local press is Bellamy re-signing.
 

Sea_Eagles_Rock

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The Manly Warringah Sea Eagles have been told by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) that none of the Club’s players, past or present, have tested positive to illegal performance enhancing substances.
Sea Eagles officials, including Club chairman Scott Penn and General Manager Dave Perry attended a meeting today with ASADA and Tony Whitlam QC, who heads the new NRL integrity unit.
“ASADA outlined to Manly and five other NRL clubs the processes it is undertaking as part of its on-going investigation into the use of banned substances in Australian sport,” Mr Perry said.
“We will continue to assist ASADA in its investigation.
“Confidentiality precludes the Sea Eagles from discussing details of that investigation.”
Mr Perry said that Manly had waited until 9.30am today to announce publicly it was named in the Australian Crime Commission report to ensure Mr Penn could brief the full playing squad.
“We thought it only fair that the players be briefed by the Club Chairman before talking to the media,” Mr Perry said.
“Again I must emphasise the Sea Eagles condemn unreservedly any use of illegal performance-enhancing substances by players.”


http://www.seaeagles.com.au/news-display/Sea-Eagles-statement-after-ASADA-meeting/68291


While it doesn't clear the club, it certainly reinforces the position of the club that “We are unaware of any use of illegal performance enhancing substances by any member of the Sea Eagles squad.” http://www.seaeagles.com.au/news-di...nue-to-cooperate-with-ACC-investigation/68233


In another report... Perry said the Sea Eagles had also been told the club was a "low to medium risk'' in relation to the severity of their involvement in the investigation into the use of performance-enhancing drugs


http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/ph...-of-accs-mention/story-fndujljl-1226575884763


If this is the status of all the other NRL clubs, the press release of the 'blackest day in Australian sport' is an epic failure aimed purely at trying to flush out a culture they suspect is there. To be able to categories a risk in such a manor (low to medium) surely means the evidence is fairly flimsy at best. Perhaps based purely on Heresay evidence which is completely inadmissable anyway.



I still find the whole situation a little concerning that the testing has not found anything at any club, yet apparently there is a major issue. Surely that is a massive failure on the part of the testing and the governing body if there is infact a massive culture of doping in the sport. Surely that is the location we need massive reforms.



I hate drugs in sport, and I don't condone the use under any circumstances. I'd like to think the testing can be improved to catch offenders in the future and strip them of their success when the methods they use can be exposed. Right now it appears Dank has a very strong case for defamation.
 

shear_joy9

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That's nothing new, they are always quiet about stuff like this. You won't hear anything from us unless you twist John Mcintyre arm out of the socket and even then he won't tell you much.

it's best if he doesn't say anything

the senile old fool would just say something stupid
 

The Great Dane

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I don't think the Canberra players have a problem.

But the board do.

I mean, how long would any other club have kept furner as a coach for so long.

This is his last year to prove himself if we don't improve on last year or at least stay in the top eight, he'll be up sh!t creek.
 

BunniesMan

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With some clubs coming out and saying their issues are relatively minor, what that could possibly mean is perhaps those clubs have players that have only been doing some recreational drugs. While the other end of the scale would be the PEDs.
 
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