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Organised crime and ElephantJuice in sport investigation part IV

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El Diablo

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So you would expect the current Lib minister to paint Labor in a positive light?

Meaningless as any evidence of interference.

The NRL busted the AFL trying to do a dodgy, that's the positive of that message to me.

It still puts a smile on my face.
why make excuses for Gillard?

and the current Government has not commented on it so stop whinging
 

Canard

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why make excuses for Gillard?

and the current Government has not commented on it so stop whinging

The liberal party spokesman you quoted as evidence that Labor was involved in the conspiracy?

Seems a pretty tenuous link to leap to your conclusion.

PS I honestly believe that Gillard was previously the worst prime minister we ever had.
 

El Diablo

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The liberal party spokesman you quoted as evidence that Labor was involved in the conspiracy?

Seems a pretty tenuous link to leap to your conclusion.

PS I honestly believe that Gillard was previously the worst prime minister we ever had.

:lol:
 
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The liberal party spokesman you quoted as evidence that Labor was involved in the conspiracy?

Seems a pretty tenuous link to leap to your conclusion.

PS I honestly believe that Gillard was previously the worst prime minister we ever had.

Negative. The current PM is the worst we've ever had, but let's not turn this into a political debate :)
 

El Diablo

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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/r...s-over-integrity/story-fnig5e6k-1226961798556

Rucci: We can’t point the finger at others over integrity

MICHELANGELO RUCCI
The Advertiser
June 20, 2014 8:36PM

PERHAPS it is the Ned Kelly in us ... or the convict traditions of the First Settlers.

That Australian way of telling authority to stop haranguing the little bloke, more so when he has put up his hand and done his time.

The widespread reaction to the Essendon Football Club supplements saga leaves much to digest — and too much that challenges Australia’s long-standing finger pointing across the world, particularly in China, Ireland, Spain and Bulgaria, to demand integrity in sport.

The misunderstanding - or misrepresenting - of the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority and its processes for an investigation either reflects frustration from ignorance or hypocrisy with Australia’s attitude on drugs in sport.

Let’s consider the big players in the long-running Essendon supplements saga.

ASADA. Perhaps the “drug cops” have been under-funded and under-resourced. Maybe the men who supposedly failed to get a positive test on Brownlow Medallist Ben Cousins (for social drugs) are green horns.

But, in the spirit of demanding sport be cleaned and never have its integrity compromised, why has the commentary on ASADA been based on lampooning their investigators as the modern version of the Keystone Cops? Why has there not been a demand from the public and nation’s leading sporting federations to the Federal Government to beef up this unit to be the best anti-doping agency in the world?

AFL PLAYERS’ ASSOCIATION. The AFL players’ union is representing the Essendon players caught in the horrid supplements saga. But is this sending the right message from the players’ body?

Every AFL player, we hope, wants to be part of a fair and clean competition. The players’ union should reflect that principle. It should defend the rights of the AFL athletes who stay true to this premise.

Those players who roam off the ranch - after failing to remember they have full responsibility for what goes into their bodies - hardly deserve the support of their union. This body already has made them rich enough to hire Queen’s Counsel to represent their interests.

The AFLPA should stand for integrity in sport - without compromise. The question of whether the Essendon players have their contracts honoured by the Bombers should they cop any bans from ASADA should not be on the AFLPA agenda.

If the Bombers players were “duped”, their army of QCs will not be short of arguments for law suits against the Essendon Football Club.

Although, if the Essendon players en masse negotiate for six-month bans from September 1, they can walk through a loophole in the WADA code that allows them to serve their penalty in the summer and return for pre-season training on March 1 without missing a game, even pre-season matches.

AFL CLUBS. So far, the strongest backlash from Essendon’s AFL rivals is a few presidents making thinly veiled jibes at the Bombers at league meetings or taking seats far away from Essendon chairman Paul Little.

And now that Little has threatened legal action against the AFL, the rival presidents are urging Essendon to back off. Self-interest rules here, of course.

Essendon’s 17 rivals, remembering how the AFL coffers were drained when the league was caught up in a law suit with the Seven television network a decade ago, know Essendon’s legal challenge puts at risk how much money is farmed out to the AFL clubs at the end of the year and next season.

It would be fascinating to know what attitude would have come from the AFL clubs had this saga not involved Essendon, one of the league’s big brands. What if it had been Sydney? Considering the outspoken remarks made against the Swans with their league-approved cost of living allowance, the outrage towards Sydney would have been deafening.

With Essendon, there is silence.

ESSENDON FOOTBALL CLUB. So far, the Bombers have confessed to poor governance. For this they have copped their AFL-imposed penalties against officials such as senior coach James Hird, the football program with the loss of draft picks and the club itself that became the first to be disqualified from a finals series.

But Essendon still cannot tell its players what they were subjected to - and, even with the black spot, insist there was no cheating at Windy Hill in 2012.

While critics ask why ASADA has not interviewed Stephen Dank, the man who orchestrated Essendon’s contentious fitness program in 2012, the more meaningful point is: Why have the Bombers not used all their might and legal power to force Dank to detail everything that happened at Windy Hill two years ago?

If the players’ welfare is first and foremost in this debate, Essendon surely takes on Dank - and Dank, out of care for the players, puts all his notes on the table for them to see.

Instead, Essendon rushes to the Federal Court to sue the AFL and ASADA to protect its brand.

Yet, the process surely dictates Essendon take the case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

This is where athletes are guaranteed their right to protest against an anti-doping agency.

The case may finish up before an international jury in Lausanne, Switzerland. And that would be interesting. How would the world judge Australia after Australians were so quick to judge Chinese and Irish swimmers, Spanish cyclists and Bulgarian weightlifters - and are now stumbling with an issue in our own backyard?
 

Dazzat

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I was just thinking the same thing.

I came in here just to see if something interesting was happening, and it's still the same old stories rehashed.

Who cares?

This will only be finished when Jason Clare and the Labor hacks that launched this enquiry are brought to justice, and people like Flanagan and Hird receive apologies.

But of course, neither will ever happen, despite being what is needed.
 

El Diablo

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if Essendope are as innocent as they claim then why are they trying to stall things and have evidence buried?
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/...-injunction-20140623-zsif3.html#ixzz35RXH4YHx
Battlelines drawn as ASADA hits back at Bombers over injunction

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June 23, 2014 - 6:17PM

180 reading now

Jon Pierik
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UPDATE:

The divide between Essendon and the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority has exploded, with the anti-doping body accusing the Bombers of trying to stall the investigation and even break ASADA's rules.

In the wake of Essendon's decision to seek an injunction on ASADA's investigation into the club's supplements program by filing an injunction in the Federal Court on Monday, the anti-doping body hit back in a statement released on Monday afternoon.

Referencing the undertakings sought by the Bombers on Friday, ASADA said it had granted a further extension of time for each of the 34 current and former Essendon players to respond to show cause notices. They have until July 11 to respond but that could depend on how successful the Bombers and suspended coach James Hird are with their bid to have the joint AFL and ASADA quashed in the Federal Court. The directions hearing is on Friday.

"ASADA also confirmed that it had not provided any material to the independent Anti-Doping Rule Violation Panel regarding the 34 AFL players and would not do so without seven days further written notice to the players," the statement said.

"Essendon Football Club's lawyers (Maurice Blackburn Lawyers) were notified early Monday morning of the extension. A short time after this notice was given to Maurice Blackburn, and without any further conferral with ASADA, ASADA became aware of Essendon's application for an urgent injunction via a tweet from a principal at Maurice Blackburn.

"Through its proposed undertakings, the Essendon Football Club was asking ASADA to stall its investigations and completely prevent the Authority from disclosing information in accordance with the act.

"To agree to the undertaking would have stopped ASADA performing its statutory functions until the conclusion of the Federal Court case and resulted in further delays."

ASADA said it had wanted to seek a quick resolution to a case which had dragged on for 16 months and suggested the Bombers had harmed this.

"The extension granted by ASADA today was a genuine attempt to seek a compromise to the undertakings sought by the Essendon Football Club and an effort to expedite matters. ASADA believes the decision by Essendon to lodge an application for an urgent injunction is premature, given the further extension provided by ASADA today," the ASADA statement said.

Through lawyer Josh Bornstein at Maurice Blackburn Lawyers, the Bombers have asked that the players not be required to respond to their show cause notices until after the Federal Court hearing of the club's challenge to the legality of ASADA's investigation.

The injunction also sought to prevent the Anti-Doping Rule Violation Panel from determining whether any players should be placed on ASADA's Register of Findings. This is the next step once the show cause response period has expired.

Bornstein said he was disappointed the Bombers needed to make an application for an urgent injunction. He said the anti-doping panel had refused to suspend the investigation despite repeated requests.

“We have written three times to ASADA's lawyers seeking their co-operation to ensure this matter is dealt with quickly by the court and that pending a quick hearing, the investigation and show cause process be halted. On each occasion ASADA has failed to agree to our request for an appropriate undertaking," Bornstein said.

"It's in the interests of all concerned – the club, the players, the AFL and the football community more broadly – for this legal challenge to be dealt with as quickly as possible.

"It is only fair that ASADA commit to take no further steps in its investigation until after the Federal Court has ruled on the legality of the investigation. If ASADA proceeds, the court will be prevented from effectively ruling on the legality of the investigation because events will have overtaken the legal process.

"Extending the date for responses to the show cause notices until 11 July, and committing to not provide information to the ADRVP until 12 July, does not go far enough."

The Bombers and Hird must show reason on Friday why a case should be brought against ASADA for what it claims was an unlawful joint investigation with the AFL. ASADA maintains it is on safe legal ground and legislation allows it to work closely with sporting bodies, in this case with the AFL.

The AFL Players Association also wants the show cause period to be extended until after the Federal Court hearing is completed. This could be months away.

The 34 current and former players issued with show cause notices maintain that if they had been given illegal peptides, it was only because they had been duped. The Bombers, and Stephen Dank, the sports scientist at the centre of allegations, maintain nothing illegal was given.

The directions hearing on Friday will be televised live on ABC television in an unprecedented move by the Federal Court.
 

elbusto

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On the one hand the Essendon Club is whinging about the time taken for this investigation to run, on the other hand it deliberately delays proceedings. Hilarious.
 

El Diablo

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and they have numerous cheerleaders in the media

some dope in The Australian is the worst of the lot as well as that Gerard bloke on Offsiders

they all claim they're innocent yet never question why Essendon are trying to get of on a technicality
 
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