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Organised crime and ElephantJuice in sport investigation part IV

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The Eagle

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The press conference was a f**king embarrasment,i dont care if he dealt PEDs or Narcotics

Sandor's relevance to the game pre-this shit was as follows

Rang Dad yesterday to get him to watch FSN channel as a presser was about to happen
He rings back when Shandor is outed to ask me "Who the f**k is Sandor Earl?"

The guy watches 8 games a weekend,lives in the penrith district and knows most players,yet he had no idea who in the f**k Earl was,i only knew who he was because of the Shandor bullshit and his lame bromance with Ferguson
 

Canard

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:lol:

it is interesting this has come out a week or so from the election. gives asada and labour a kick along and makes them look like they've actually done something for the past few years

I don't think even the most die in the wool Labor supporter would say this is giving Labor a "kick along". The will be out of office in 7 days, and I this isn't suddenly going to disappear.

The press conference was a f**king embarrasment,i dont care if he dealt PEDs or Narcotics

Sandor's relevance to the game pre-this shit was as follows

Rang Dad yesterday to get him to watch FSN channel as a presser was about to happen
He rings back when Shandor is outed to ask me "Who the f**k is Sandor Earl?"

The guy watches 8 games a weekend,lives in the penrith district and knows most players,yet he had no idea who in the f**k Earl was,i only knew who he was because of the Shandor bullshit and his lame bromance with Ferguson

Yeh Im not sure that ASADA and the NRL decide on these things based on the "fame" of the player.

They hold a press conference to announce a team wearing a pink jersey sponsored by a milk company, so I reckon this was worthy of a press conference.

Further it was great PR for our game, because it portrayed a tough stance, whereas AFL has looked weak as water (in regards to their players being pinged)
 
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El Diablo

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www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/earl-will...o-fellow-players/story-fnca0von-1226706989687

Earl will provide substantial assistance but not in relation to fellow players

by: Brent Read
From: The Australian
August 30, 2013 12:00AM

ANOTHER warning shot has been fired across Cronulla's bow. The Sharks' pursuit of an elusive maiden premiership goes on but the cloud over their involvement in the finals gets darker by the day.

On the surface, the decision to issue an infraction notice against Canberra winger Sandor Earl has little to do with what went on at Cronulla during the period that is the subject of an Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority investigation in early 2011.

But the part played in Earl's downfall by banned drug CJC-1295 could. The then Penrith winger took the substance to help recover from shoulder surgery and now faces a ban of up to four years for its use and trafficking.

The immediate reaction was that his sanction represented the start, rather than the end, of an already painstaking process. Players would now fall like dominos.

Not so. Earl will provide substantial assistance, but not in relation to fellow players.

Earl won't be bringing Cronulla down, but CJC-1295 just might. An independent report into Cronulla, commissioned by the club, alleged Sharks players were found to have used the substance before the club's round-four game against New Zealand Warriors in March 2011.

Further allegations were made of players rubbing creams into their forearms from bright orange tubes labelled CJC-1295 before the game against North Queensland later that year.

There were also allegations CJC-1295 was used by some players at Manly when Steve Dank was at the club prior to 2011. The drug is also at the centre of the allegations against AFL club Essendon.

In the charge sheet recently released by the AFL against Essendon, one of the key figures in the investigation, Shane Charter, was alleged to have returned from a visit to China with the raw materials for CJC-1295 during December 2011.

Another AFL player, Nathan Bock, has revealed his concern that he may have been injected with CJC-1295 in December 2010 under the assumption that it was a legal amino acid.

Meanwhile, ASADA is edging towards the conclusion of interviews with NRL players. Those involved at Cronulla in 2011 have already had their time before investigators. Once the interviews are complete, further talks will be carried out with those in and around the game.

All the while, the finals are fast approaching.

As it stands, Cronulla will be there. The club still has hope of winning a maiden title.

That is, unless the landscape dramatically changes over the next fortnight.

"I hope I have got the message across that we as a code and we as a commission will deal with fact," NRL chief executive Dave Smith said.

"When the facts are presented, we will respond accordingly. We have facts here, we have an admission and we are telling everybody as soon as possible.

"We have reacted quickly and I have no information or no evidence at this point in time to suggest there is anything further that we would be announcing in the near term.

"However, the investigation continues and hopefully this gives you a sense of the seriousness and why we followed such a thorough process.

"If a fact is presented to me, if an infraction notice or the ability to issue an infraction notice is clearly presented and we have evidence that is substantiated and factual and stands the test of scrutiny, than of course we will act in the same way that hopefully you're getting the sense of today.

"I don't have that information."
 

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"I hope I have got the message across that we as a code and we as a commission will deal with fact," NRL chief executive Dave Smith said.

Thats a great go at the other code there. Good to see.
 

Card Shark

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If they don't have the facts (proof) against Cronulla by now, why the f**k not? This has been going for 7 months.

Another efficient government organisation.

That's the first time I can recall reading that our players took a substance before a defined game. How do these journalists get this info.... Surely it's confidential until an infraction is issued ?
 

Card Shark

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Thats a great go at the other code there. Good to see.

Yes, good to see he is acting with a level head & not shooting from the hip. Stupid how the NRL approach has been labelled 2nd rate compared to the AFL. I'd suggest it was the opposite.

Funny (not really) in that article the sharks have all these allegations against us spelt out when we allegedly took stuff before certain games but only 1 sentence devoted to manly who allegedly took the same substance when dank was there the previous few years.

If it was banned in 2011, surely it was banned in 2010.
 

bileduct

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The guy watches 8 games a weekend,lives in the penrith district and knows most players,yet he had no idea who in the f**k Earl was,i only knew who he was because of the Shandor bullshit and his lame bromance with Ferguson
I somehow doubt you could watch Raiders games and not know who Sandor Earl is.
 

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Interesting that the Murdoch press in Melbourne were complete fawning lapdogs during this saga to the AFL, yet in Sydney they are attacking with impunity.

On a side note: Notice how Penriff refer to themselves as Panthers in that release, not Penrith Panthers NRL Club etc. Clearly they are looking to change the brand soon.
 

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http://www.penrithpanthers.com.au/default.aspx?s=news-display&id=83257

Presume this has something to do with the Tele's gutter journalism on this?

obviously

Official Statement regarding comments in the Telegraph

Friday 30 August 2013 11:01 AM

Panthers are very disappointed with the inaccurate and misleading story in today?s Daily Telegraph.

Panthers have been cooperating; including providing receipts for what the club believes is legitimate treatment of the player.

Panthers are taking legal action because of damage to their reputation and because of the misleading and untrue allegations.

We will be making no further comment, as it is now a legal matter.
 

magpie4ever

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Julia the WADA code about trafficking has already been posted saying why

read up before asking stupid questions

Well Dickwit, you seemingly never answer questions to clarify statements in your posts.

You prefer to let your lapdogs run with the conspiracy theory and it's all just a mole hole that ASADA, the government and the media have made a mountain out of.

Even when a player receives an infraction notice that player suddenly goes from being a first grader to someone the general public would hardly know as he is a fringe player.

Just to let you and the girls know, if and when Big Ears and Noddy take control of the Lodge; this ain't going away.:p
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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If they don't have the facts (proof) against Cronulla by now, why the f**k not? This has been going for 7 months.

Another efficient government organisation.

That's the first time I can recall reading that our players took a substance before a defined game. How do these journalists get this info.... Surely it's confidential until an infraction is issued ?

Never heard of giving people enough rope to hang themselves?

They have a snitch & a start witness man!! I can understand you'd be in shock now, but it all points to this being the end for the Sharks in the Shire.

NRL fines Sharks - Gone
Players sue Sharks - Gone

Its only going to take one brick for the whole castle to come crashing down my friend. ASADA have genuine leverage.

Look for some plea bargaining over the weekend or early next week at the latest.
 

Fat Krion

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Never heard of giving people enough rope to hang themselves?

They have a snitch & a start witness man!! I can understand you'd be in shock now, but it all points to this being the end for the Sharks in the Shire.

NRL fines Sharks - Gone
Players sue Sharks - Gone

Its only going to take one brick for the whole castle to come crashing down my friend. ASADA have genuine leverage.

Look for some plea bargaining over the weekend or early next week at the latest.

Sharks should relocate and play a few nostalgic games at Remondis like dragons match every season.

The ASADA findings could well be a blessing for the club and allow a fresh start in Perth or Caloundra.

The sharks have been struggling since their inception, had to sell the farm to keep afloat and pay off debt with more money from the development not due for 5 years or so.

With all the big signings made by the club it looks like a all or nothing attempt by a club that knows their days are numbered.
 

Eion

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With all the big signings made by the club it looks like a all or nothing attempt by a club that knows their days are numbered.
hahaha. So when a club doesn't know it's days are numbered they sign nuffies?
 

Card Shark

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Well, he's carrying so much rope he may as well be an executioner at the gallows.

Too much rope for just one bloke - especially when he's doing all he can to avoid the gallows himself.

To be honest Ronnie, I'm glad Sandor is out there telling all.

It'll help the truth come out & then we can move on. If players have done the wrong thing, they should be punished.

My only fear is will be punished like Sandor with a ridiculous charge, for SFA. That will piss me off, especially if it leads to the downfall of my club.

I know it is in your blood to hate the Sharks mate, I get that, but if my greatest sporting passion is killed off due to the irresponsible acts of 1 or a few, I'm gunna be so pissed, forever & a day.

David Smith says they are dealing in facts & that's great but I'm not sure it takes many "facts" to be slapped with a monumental punishment.
 
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