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organised crime and juice of the elephant pt V

Perth Red

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No difference between a one off tainted supply of something that was legal and having an injection from a vile marked not for human consumption out of an esky for weeks? Also he was stripped of his titles and results for that year, players that have won stuff like Gallen haven't.

For the record I think the players were dumb but not deliberate and the real punishment should be towards the club and club staff involved. The fact the sharks were a joke of a club and run so badly that this deception of the players was allowed to happen is a blight on the game. The fact the Sharks are happy to let one of those key staff back is a continuing indication of why the sharks will remain the lol club of the NRL.
 

Perth Red

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It felt rushed

After 2 f**king Years. Why did players have to decide in 3 days ??

Because asada screwed up by not charging them on nov 1st last year and wanted them to accept the deal. Not through lack of evidence but because their running of the whole thing has been so poor. Everyone is saying all of the evidence was gathered and investigation was complete on October 31st, no one has yet explained why it took nine months for the next step to occur.
 

Parra

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You've said ASADA are corrupt. Why would a corrupt body care why or when a deal is made and signed?
 

Parra

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You are telling the story.

Plenty of people have questioned this from day 1. You've only just worked out that it's a beat up.

Doesn't mean you are corrupt though.
 

Surely

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No difference between a one off tainted supply of something that was legal and having an injection from a vile marked not for human consumption out of an esky for weeks? Also he was stripped of his titles and results for that year, players that have won stuff like Gallen haven't.

For the record I think the players were dumb but not deliberate and the real punishment should be towards the club and club staff involved. The fact the sharks were a joke of a club and run so badly that this deception of the players was allowed to happen is a blight on the game. The fact the Sharks are happy to let one of those key staff back is a continuing indication of why the sharks will remain the lol club of the NRL.

It's a pity the Perth reds still aren't around for the lols
 

Pig Champion

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Because asada screwed up by not charging them on nov 1st last year and wanted them to accept the deal. Not through lack of evidence but because their running of the whole thing has been so poor. Everyone is saying all of the evidence was gathered and investigation was complete on October 31st, no one has yet explained why it took nine months for the next step to occur.

Time to move on. Focus on getting a perth team. My 3 boys play junior rugby league in the shire, they love the sharks, let it go.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/n...034233528?nk=79a48e3b4daa914d2d30e07649cfc871

What’s the Buzz: Brad Fittler calls on NRL not to give Paul Gallen the Origin medal named in his honour

The Sunday Telegraph
August 23, 2014 9:59PM

RUGBY league legend Brad Fittler has called on the NRL not to give Paul Gallen the Origin medal this year that is named in his honour.

The Sharks skipper Paul Gallen was in line for two major player awards before reluctantly accepting his heavily discounted ASADA ban on Friday.

The triumphant Blues State of Origin skipper was favourite to win the Dally M representative player of the year and the Brad Fittler Medal for best NSW performer in the 2-1 series win.

“There is a system the league will go through to determine if Paul is eligible to win the award,” Fittler said.

“In my opinion, given the circumstances that he is suspended, he should be ineligible to win the medal. That’s all I want to say.”

This is the first sign from a football legend that the Cronulla players are to be treated as outcasts.

Both of the game’s most prestigious awards will be handed out before the grand final.

Officials were reluctant to comment when asked where Gallen stands.

The Dally M rules state: “The game acknowledges that a player found guilty of a doping offence may be stripped of any award or be ruled ineligible to receive any award subject to the determination of the NRL.”

NRL spokesman Peter Grimshaw told us: “We haven’t considered that yet.”

Gallen is out of contention for any other Dally M individual award because players are deducted three points for every week they are suspended.

NSW Origin coach Laurie Daley was reluctant to comment when asked about Gallen’s Fittler Medal situation although it is known he is privately supporting his skipper.

He rang and spoke to Gallen on Friday, not long after the ASADA suspensions were handed down. NSWRL chief executive Dave Trodden did not return calls. Nor did Fittler.

Under the terms of the ASADA suspensions, the 2011 Cronulla players are banned from any involvement with the game or their current clubs until November 21.

Whether that includes the Dally M presentation is likely to be decided by NRL CEO Dave Smith and Daily Telegraph editor Paul Whittaker.

In the Test match against New Zealand Gallen made 161 metres from just 66 minutes and was the best forward on the field.

Kangaroos coach Tim Sheens says Gallen will be sorely missed in the upcoming Four Nations series.

“Gal’s always an automatic selection,” Sheens said,” He’s going to leave a big hole to fill.”
 

Apey

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Cool maybe the person who deserves the awards more than Gallen will win them instead.

... probably not, though.
 

Danish

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Only seems fair to strip any player who is now officially suspended during this whole season from any individual honours they may have earned.

I'd find them the value of any rep payments they've received over the accepted ban period as well
 

carcharias

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Sounds fair
On one account

Asada shows us the evidence they have that sharks players took banned drugs.

That should be ok now that they have admitted it - surely.
 

POPEYE

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So, the NRL have convinced ASADA that it needs the problem with the players to go away but as far as Flanagan is concerned why not use him as a scapegoat. Besides the point he is serving a real ban and he probably knew as little as the players did, even less when he ingested nothing and was led to believe his job was to coach, not be a Man Friday
 

Canard

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Only seems fair to strip any player who is now officially suspended during this whole season from any individual honours they may have earned.

I'd find them the value of any rep payments they've received over the accepted ban period as well

Hayne should rightfully win both awards regardless.
 
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It may have already been discussed but Paul Aiton's team played in the Challenge Cup last night. No wonder he wasn't rushing to receive the show cause notice. I would have been refusing to look in the letter box if I had a game like that coming. Don't think Cas have much chance in the super league though.
 

Spot On

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Sounds fair
On one account

Asada shows us the evidence they have that sharks players took banned drugs.

That should be ok now that they have admitted it - surely.

Gather evidence over 2 + years showing player took banned substance - offer said player a three game ban.

Must be iron clad evidence hey.
 
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