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organised crime and juice of the elephant pt V

Canard

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Given they have no international comp I don't suppose pulling out of the International WADA agreement will be that big an issue for them. Someone mentioned the NFL don't subscribe to it either?

When you are American and shit gold you can do whatever you want.
 

Pig Champion

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Funny if Essendon win GF then get found guilty.
I do feel for the players to some degree, they got stiffed by the club, then ASADA stuffed up the investigation, then the AFL covered over the facts and now they are back in the wringer. They all must have got some good "bonuses" not to be outraged at it all.

ps I think the sharks players were equally let down by an inept, corrupt, poorly managed club as well.

F**k off d**khead.

Always with the sharks hate.
 

Cumberland Throw

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If they pull out of wada.... I believe under Australian law AFL would not be allowed to be promoted to kids...

No school sports, no auskick, no juniour football,,,

ie - DEATH...
 

El Diablo

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just for a laugh i recorded that AFL 360 show

nauseating how the Victorian media cover this

apparently WADA are the bad guys
 

Tap Twist Snap

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Just read that James Herd accused ASADA of destroying evidence of what Essendon took. This will really explode now. That is really going to war.

To think the Victorian media tried to blame all this on the Sharks in the early stages. They really did pretty well to get out of it all without too many scars. This could be going on in AFL for many years to come.
 

El Diablo

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this bloke will have his accreditation stripped http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...o-big-even-for-city-hall-20150512-ggzsbh.html

WADA appeal into Essendon verdict: Too big even for City Hall

Date
May 12, 2015 - 5:48PM

Greg Baum
Chief sports columnist and associate editor with The Age

You can't fight City Hall, they said. You won't stop the AFL from having its way. And so it proved. First, the AFL collaborated with ASADA in a doping investigation, brought charges against Essendon, and applied its own ad hoc and severe sanctions against officials and the club. Then it lobbied in public statements for mitigation for the players at the independent tribunal, and succeeded. This, separate from the legality and the morality, was the functionality. The AFL got its way. City Hall won.

But this latest unexpected development takes it out of City Hall's hands. The AFL's tentacles spread far and wide, but (except in its dreams) not beyond Australia. WADA is an international body, CAS an international court. When it convenes, it will consist of a panel of three arbitrators from a list of about 300, one chosen by WADA, one by Essendon, and a chairman. The chairman does not have to be Australian, and the panelist chosen by WADA almost certainly won't be. Essendon's choice is restricted: only four of the 300 are Melbourne-based, and two have previous involvement in the case, and presumably are disqualified.

If this ever was a case that could be worked out between like-minded acquaintances in back corridors or at football games and other convivial haunts, it is no longer. You have to think that this is at least partly why WADA has appealed, that without impugning the integrity of the jurists on the AFL tribunal, it felt their decision was made in an atmosphere altogether too cousinly and collegial. It was made in the shadows of City Hall.

While contemplating conspiracies, there's more. CAS is independent now, but it was born out of the Olympic movement and still retains strong links. Its president, John Coates, is also president of the Australian Olympic Committee and a long-standing member of the IOC. It would be fair to say that the AFL and Olympic movement in Australia are not close. The Olympics people dislike the AFL's power and reach, and the AFL is suspicious of the AOC's influence in government circles. Sotto voce, Olympics officials have made their thoughts known about Essendon.

Twenty-seven months later, and still it is wheels within wheels, within big wheels, still turning.
 

Card Shark

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Funny if Essendon win GF then get found guilty.
I do feel for the players to some degree, they got stiffed by the club, then ASADA stuffed up the investigation, then the AFL covered over the facts and now they are back in the wringer. They all must have got some good "bonuses" not to be outraged at it all.

ps I think the sharks players were equally let down by an inept, corrupt, poorly managed club as well.

PR, don't forget ASADA offered a deal to the Sharks players, which they accepted.

At the time, there was talk that WADA may appeal the leniency of the sentences but after reviewing evidence, they chose not to.

Yes our club is inept & poorly managed & the current CEO is trying to fix that but f**k me I take offence to being called corrupt. Tell me how so, Perth "starved off Rugby League" Red? Please take your hate glasses off before you do though.
 

LineBall

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If you want a laugh, go to the WADA Facebook page and look at the comments relating to their statement on the AFL case. AFL supporters seem to have the average IQ of a mushroom.
 

jargan83

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If you want a laugh, go to the WADA Facebook page and look at the comments relating to their statement on the AFL case. AFL supporters seem to have the average IQ of a mushroom.

I had a look at that last night, a mushroom isn't that stupid.
 

Perth Red

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PR, don't forget ASADA offered a deal to the Sharks players, which they accepted.

At the time, there was talk that WADA may appeal the leniency of the sentences but after reviewing evidence, they chose not to.

Yes our club is inept & poorly managed & the current CEO is trying to fix that but f**k me I take offence to being called corrupt. Tell me how so, Perth "starved off Rugby League" Red? Please take your hate glasses off before you do though.

1.
having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.
"unscrupulous logging companies assisted by corrupt officials"
synonyms: dishonest, dishonourable, unscrupulous, unprincipled, amoral, untrustworthy, underhand, deceitful, double-dealing, disreputable, discreditable, shameful, scandalous;

The Sharks club officials acted dishonestly to dope players in a systemic way to try and achieve gain. The exact definition of corrupt. Sometimes it has to come to light how bad things are
Before things can change. Hopefully that was the Sharks watergate and lessons will have been learnt. Although reappointing the same coach who was in charge at the time of the mismanagement and corruption is not a great sign and having a CEO responsible for three big areas (nrl club, leagues club, development subsidiary) makes you question how in touch the new leadership can be on a day to day basis.
 
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