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organised crime and juice of the elephant pt V

kkingston

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It looks like Cronulla made the right decision to take the 6 week bans. This could drag on for another year
 

Pierced Soul

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if someone could post the article it would be great. On my phone and cant be f**ked f**karsing around

http://m.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-p...essendon-players/story-e6frf36u-1227351211580

Source: News Corp Australia
*WADA to lodge appeal with Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS)

*Essendon shocked by appeal, Little says everyone had just ?got their lives back?

*WADA?s move means players accused of taking Thymosin beta-4 again face suspensions

*Former ASADA boss Richard Ings says result known ?by Christmas if all goes fast?

*Players free to continue playing while appeals process takes place

LATEST: ASADA has welcomed the World Anti-Doping Agency?s decision to lodge an appeal regarding 34 former and current Essendon players, as the club expresses its shock.

WADA?s move against the AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal?s decision means the 34 players accused of using the banned peptide Thymosin beta-4 during the 2012 season again face suspensions of up to two years.


?It has really taken us all by surprise,? Essendon chairman Paul Little told Triple M Hot Breakfast.

?(It?s) early days but I would have thought it probably could be heard reasonably quickly.

?Everyone involved has pretty much got their lives back ... but now it looks like we have to jump back on the horse.?

MORE: WADA APPEAL HANGS CLOUD OVER AFL SEASON

WADA Director General David Howman said this morning: ?After a thorough examination of the evidence contained within the file, WADA has decided to lodge its independent right of appeal to the decision to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).? SCROLL DOWN FOR FULL STATEMENT

ASADA CEO Ben McDevitt said the authority would fully support WADA in its appeal to CAS.

?ASADA has handed over a comprehensive brief of evidence to assist WADA in its preparation for the CAS hearing,? Mr McDevitt said.

The Herald Sun revealed last week that Mr McDevitt had flown to WADA headquarters in Montreal to fight for an appeal outside the AFL?s jurisdiction.

Former ASADA boss Richard Ings said the result of the appeal would be known ?by Christmas if all goes fast?.

A source close to the investigation told the Herald Sun this morning: ?I don?t think there will be a different outcome since they still don?t have a witness.

?What is their case. It is more politics. They (ASADA) are a disgrace.?

The AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal ruled last month that it was not ?comfortably satisfied? 34 past and present Bombers players had been administered the banned peptide Thymosin beta-4 during the 2012 season.

The decision by WADA to press ahead in the case against Essendon means all evidence will be heard by CAS at a hearing in the coming months.

The hearing will likely be held in Melbourne.

Players are free to continue playing in the AFL while the appeal process takes place.

Melbourne sports Lawyer Paul Horvath said the CAS panel would be made up of three people - two arbitrators, one chosen by each party, and a chairman appointed by the court.

Mr Horvath told 3AW the court ?probably? didn?t have the power to subpoena compounding chemist Nima Alavi or importer Shane Charter, both key witnesses who pulled out of appearing before the AFL anti-doping tribunal at the eleventh hour.

?The key question is around whether there?ll be any new evidence, which I suspect there won?t be - but there may be - and the hearing starts from scratch,? Mr Horvath said.

?You don?t have to show there was an error made by the earlier court.?

Mr Horvath said the court would revisit the question of whether it was ?comfortably satisfied? that any of the Essendon players committed anti-doping rule violations.

?In my opinion it?s a very high test because of the consequences and there needs to be a fair degree of proof before you?re going to find if someone has been a drug cheat,? he said.

He said a final decision was normally reached within 4-6 weeks.

?I reckon round about by the end of the season is when you might expect that decision,? he said.

AFL boss Gillon McLachlan had expressed hope last month that ASADA would accept the AFL anti-doping tribunal decision and let the investigation rest.

But ASADA is convinced doping violations took place at Essendon and suspensions should be served.

McDevitt said last month the problems at Essendon in 2012 were ?far more serious than poor governance?.

?Hundreds, maybe thousands, of injections, unsupervised and undocumented, were given to Essendon players during the 2012 season,? McDevitt said.

?An absolutely deplorable and disgraceful lack of records of these injections means we still have young men not knowing what was injected into them.

?They?ve been used as pincushions.?

When asked about McLachlan?s comments that he hoped ASADA would accept the tribunal?s decision and forego an appeal, McDevitt said: ?This is not a decision for Gill McLachlan.?

When asked about McLachlan?s comments that he hoped ASADA would accept the tribunal?s decision and forego an appeal, McDevitt said: ?This is not a decision for Gill McLachlan.?

WADA STATEMENT

WADA Director General, David Howman: ?We have now completed our independent review of the full case file on the AFL Anti-Doping Appeals Tribunal decision regarding 34 current and former Essendon players.

?After a thorough examination of the evidence contained within the file, WADA has decided to lodge its independent right of appeal to the decision to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

?As with all pending cases, and adhering to the proper and normal respect for the integrity of the legal process, WADA will refrain from commenting further on the subject until a decision has been made by CAS.?

More to come ...
 

Pierced Soul

First Grade
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The AFL must have known that the penalties imposed wouldn't stand up

they're so used to controlling the media and govt in australia, they werent expecting an international body to have any power. regardless of the outcome the whole things a f**k up on behalf of asada and wada. we saw the sharks lose shitloads of money and 2 basically wasted seasons cos of it, the only saving grace is essendon will waste at least 3 if not more seasons fighting this thing
 

El Diablo

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they're so used to controlling the media and govt in australia, they werent expecting an international body to have any power. regardless of the outcome the whole things a f**k up on behalf of asada and wada. we saw the sharks lose shitloads of money and 2 basically wasted seasons cos of it, the only saving grace is essendon will waste at least 3 if not more seasons fighting this thing

the FSN reader was nearly in tears talking about it and how they were dissapointed with WADA appealng
 
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*Essendon shocked by appeal, Little says everyone had just “got their lives back”

Lollapooloozza!!

"I can't believe they didn't just accept the ruling from our own AFL kangaroo court?!"

"Heavens to Murgatroyd!"
 
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geez the Victorian media are not happy with WADA lol

I was listening to them on SEN this morning and laughing my arse off.

Their self-righteous indignence at not being able to let their own panel of AFL stooges sweep it under the rug was off the chain and beautiful to behold.

Fat Pat was on there too. He was being his usual pompous self, talking over anyone with a differing opinion and savoring his own effluent.

Other callers rang in and gave it to him for being the rude prick that he is, and he had to choke on an apology. Hilarious stuff. :D
 

El Diablo

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I was listening to them on SEN this morning and laughing my arse off.

Their self-righteous indignence at not being able to let their own panel of AFL stooges sweep it under the rug was off the chain and beautiful to behold.

Fat Pat was on there too. He was being his usual pompous self, talking over anyone with a differing opinion and savoring his own effluent.

Other callers rang in and gave it to him for being the rude prick that he is, and he had to choke on an apology. Hilarious stuff. :D

i read over at Bigpoofy that fat Pat thinks the players shouldn't be suspended even if they're found guilty because it's taken 3 years lol

if WADA eer heard these clowns they would wonder what planet they come from
 

taipan

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Been saying it all along,the NRL's handling of the issue by comparison was professional,following due course.

The AFL's was more like a three ringed circus.Vlad,Essendon management and the egotistical coach.Now the clowns with their brooms have been given short shift,the lions are moving in for the kill.
It does warm the cockles of my heart.;-)
 

El Diablo

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sickening http://www.news.com.au/national/ess...plements-scandal/story-e6frfkp9-1227351379386


Essendon players don’t deserve to put through another hearing over supplements scandal

by: Jon Ralph

May 12, 2015 8:53AM

HERE we go again.

Just when the AFL had reason to believe it had learnt its lessons from the two-year ASADA scandal and moved on, the game is back in the gutter again.

Six weeks into an AFL season ripe with promise, after 54 rollickingly good games that have reminded us all again why we fell in love with this sport to start with it.

Instead MRP worries and hamstring strains will again be replaced with terms like comfortable satisfaction, compounding pharmacists, injection regimes and the exact definition of thymosin beta 4.

Both football fans and, more tellingly, the Essendon players can feel hard done by.

By any reading, ASADA comprehensively failed to prove its case against Essendon’s players after two full years of attempting to build a case.

It might have been on the AFL’s home ground — a league-held anti-doping panel — and ASADA’s case was weakened when key witnesses decided not to appeal.

But the 132-page judgment revealed ASADA hadn’t come close to providing its case.

It wasn’t close to comfortably satisfied that Essendon players had been injected with the banned substance thymosin beta 4.

It couldn’t prove the substance was thymosin beta 4 and said those who believed it was were fundamentally unreliable.

Now comes an appeal before the Court of Arbitration of Sport that former ASADA boss Richard Ings has speculated could not finish until Christmas.

Rather than its own appeal, ASADA threw in its lot with WADA in a case that could be held in Melbourne before another panel of judges.

Essendon chairman Paul Little surmised on SEN Radio this morning that perhaps WADA has new evidence, because a case involving the same version of the facts would surely come up short again?

Even those of us who believe the AFL’s handling of this case has had fundamental flaws from the start do not believe their anti-doping panel spat out a verdict just to satisfy the league’s determination to move on.

Clearly not, according to ASADA boss Ben McDevitt, who flew to WADA headquarters to push his case for an appeal.

As Little said this morning, there are so many unanswered questions.

How does this affect the players?

Will it wreck another AFL season?

Is there new evidence?

Is WADA appealing to CASA just to be seen to be holding up its end of the bargain or does it believe it has a realistic chance of overturning this penalty?

How must Jobe Watson and his players be feeling today, when they believed this ordeal that ruined their lives for two seasons was finally over?

It is possible to be furious with Essendon over its 2012 supplements program and wonder why the players do not raise more red flags, and yet still have deep sympathy for those players two years on.

If it does drag out until the end of the year it will be four long seasons effectively wrecked by Essendon’s own conduct and then the longwinded investigation.

First came the 2012 program that saw so many soft-tissue injuries the year was a write-off.

Then the next two years of investigation by ASADA.

And now this.

It is amazing to think by that by August 2013 ASADA’s own interim report did not suggest the players had a case to answer.

Its own investigators warned the case would be hard or even impossible to prosecute.

Two years on from that report we still might not have an end date for this case.

It might have been a neat manufactured resolution, but as of yesterday everyone involved in this saga had copped a level of punishment that seemed somewhere near appropriate.

Essendon had been booted from a finals campaign and lost draft picks.

James Hird had lost a year’s coaching.

Stephen Dank was weeks or months away from a life ban from Australian sport.

And the innocent parties — the players — had been to hell and back and yet come out the other side.

We could process it and move on, if not totally comfortable then at least accepting that the AFL was a safer and more regulated place for its players.

Now this story takes off in another complicated and unexpected direction and no one knows where it will end up.


https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/597885727351812096 lol
 
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"Even those of us who believe the AFL’s handling of this case has had fundamental flaws from the start do not believe their anti-doping panel spat out a verdict just to satisfy the league’s determination to move on."

:sarcasm:

:lol:


The delusion is staggering!!

So the "fundamental flaws" which he is alluding to, was in fact the AFL Boss Dermitriou tipping off Essendon about the impending investigation, but now everyone is to believe that an AFL appointed panel will be anymore trustworthy than the slimy Andy D was?

Glaringly, no reference to the fact that they have openly admitted to destroying any and all records of their injection programme.

But lets not forget poor ol' Jobe. Wasn't he the bloke that admitted to injecting TB-4 on one of their own footy shows?
 

magpie4ever

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*Essendon shocked by appeal, Little says everyone had just ?got their lives back?

Lollapooloozza!!

"I can't believe they didn't just accept the ruling from our own AFL kangaroo court?!"

"Heavens to Murgatroyd!"

Aren't they a team in their competition. So the kangaroos judged the bombers.;-)

Seriously, hope they get the pricks.
 
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