OT: ASADA and Drugs in NRL

[TheParraboy]

You will be getting filthy then ... i bet the nrl wont do anything more

im not gonna have a shower for a month in protest..

 

[Gary Gutful]

HJ already made his protest in anticipation.

 

[Gronk]

I'm with the Tits boss on this. When my kids are on excursions, I want them properley supervised. FFS!

"Gold Coast Titans bosses are livid the club’s hard-won reputation is being dragged back through the mud following Kevin Proctor’s alleged cocaine use at the weekend, with chief executive Graham Annesley set to raise with the NRL the issue of player supervision while away on representative duty."

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...h/news-story/e24e00be5fc7388df135d39ccb3f546c

 

[hineyrulz]

Grown men need supervision lol. What are they all 6???

This is the bloke you made captain and is a suppposed leader of your club lol.

Great choice bro!!

 

[Bandwagon]

Yeah, when does some one become fully responsible for their own actions?

 

[Happy MEel]

I'm keen to hear the opinion of @Barry O'Speedwagon on a two match ban, if the NRL run with this, as he generally takes a rational approach to these things.

However, I think this wreaks of double standards with corey's 8 match sentence last year. Sure, in a legal sense the charges are different but from the NRL's perspective there shouldn't be any difference, and in fact the most recent indiscretion should be worse as not only have they admitted to being in possession of the drugs, they have also admitted to consuming them.

Tod told the press on Saturday night (heard it on 702) that these were only allegations at the time but if they were found to be credible they would come down hard. Let's see if they have any balls and follow through with that stance...

 

[strider]

I'm keen to hear the opinion of @Barry O'Speedwagon on a two match ban if the NRL run with this, as he generally takes a rational approach to these things.

However, I think this wreaks of double standards with corey's 8 match sentence last year. Sure, in a legal sense the charges are different but from the NRL's perspective there shouldn't be any difference, and in fact the most recent indiscretion should be worse as not only have they admitted to being in possession of the drugs, they have also admitted to consuming them.

Tod told the press on Saturday night (heard it on 702) that these were only allegations at the time but if they were found to be credible they would come down hard. Let's see if they have any balls and follow through with that stance...

Well you've gotta put things in perspective .... todd is a wanker, so yeah

 

[Happy MEel]

Well you've gotta put things in perspective .... todd is a wanker, so yeah

You're the voice of reason Strider

 

[Gronk]

IMHO Corey got 8 weeks (in the NRLs opinion) to kill the momentum of a player that was socially off the rails.

Consorting, possession charge that did not stick and the Canadian Dry episode ≠ 8 weeks.

 

[strider]

Ok, here's my real thoughts ...

1. Nrl's first strike rule = zero penalty ... so why will they do more? Players are already getting punished a bit

2. Norman got 8 weeks cos of a few things ... a) nrl's previous dumb ruling of giving Pearce 8 weeks - b) we werent in a decent position management wise to argue it down - c) it was a sure way to end any flicker of hope of the evil salary cap cheating westies scraping into the 8

3. And yeah, Todd IS a wanker ... its a player from the powerful storm and one from the nrl run titans, move along not much to see here

Realistically, i think Pearce got way too much of a suspension, Norman then got double what he should have, and these 2 should probably get 4 weeks and fines too .... in summary, the nrl is useless

 

[Happy MEel]

IMHO Corey got 8 weeks (in the NRLs opinion) to kill the momentum of a player that was socially off the rails.

Consorting, possession charge that did not stick and the Canadian Dry episode ≠ 8 weeks.

You can't charge a player for a sex video, that's ludicrous. In regards to the consorting argument, the question has to be asked whether he was socialising with these types or was it a one-off? Also, wouldn't a punishment exist if he was warned about consorting and then continued to do so. As far as I can remember this all occurred around the same time didn't it?

 

[Happy MEel]

Ok, here's my real thoughts ...

1. Nrl's first strike rule = zero penalty ... so why will they do more? Players are already getting punished a bit

2. Norman got 8 weeks cos of a few things ... a) nrl's previous dumb ruling of giving Pearce 8 weeks - b) we werent in a decent position management wise to argue it down - c) it was a sure way to end any flicker of hope of the evil salary cap cheating westies scraping into the 8

3. And yeah, Todd IS a wanker ... its a player from the powerful storm and one from the nrl run titans, move along not much to see here

Realistically, i think Pearce got way too much of a suspension, Norman then got double what he should have, and these 2 should probably get 4 weeks and fines too .... in summary, the nrl is useless

That just about sums it up for me. I genuinely hope the eels publically call out the NRL for a please explain though to try and hold them accountable.

 

[Gronk]

You can't charge a player for a sex video, that's ludicrous. In regards to the consorting argument, the question has to be asked whether he was socialising with these types or was it a one-off? Also, wouldn't a punishment exist if he was warned about consorting and then continued to do so. As far as I can remember this all occurred around the same time didn't it?

Also, Fafita received a consorting notice from the NSW Police didn't he ? I don't recall that he was suspended by the NRL for club matches.

 

[strider]

You can't charge a player for a sex video, that's ludicrous. In regards to the consorting argument, the question has to be asked whether he was socialising with these types or was it a one-off? Also, wouldn't a punishment exist if he was warned about consorting and then continued to do so. As far as I can remember this all occurred around the same time didn't it?

What was mitchell pearce done for?
Why can todd carney not get cleared for an nrl gig? (Yeah he is a substantial goose)

They did dumb things, but they only hurt themselves

 

[Gronk]

What was mitchell pearce done for?
Why can todd carney not get cleared for an nrl gig? (Yeah he is a substantial goose)

They did dumb things, but they only hurt themselves

The NRL would say that they damaged the brand. Disrepute etc.

 

[Happy MEel]

"Under NRL rules, the first strike results in the player being referred to his club CEO for education and rehabilitation with the second strike resulting in a 12-week suspension. Upon a third strike a player is referred to the NRL CEO for punishment."

Whilst I don't agree with this and believe a harsher punishment should be handed down for 1st strikes, I'm ok with it as long as it's applied consistently.

That being the case, as far as I know and seeing as though there was no mention of a second offence, Norman's drug charge was a 1st strike. Therefore, he received 8 weeks for a one-off consorting warning, filming a sex tape and apparent drug taking (although there was no mention he was involved in the drug taking) and distributing it to other NRL players. Absolutely ridiculous if true.

All I'm after is consistency.

Read more at http://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/05/07/18/29/nrl-accused-of-head-in-sand-over-drugs#c8ASRAE9cDwJ0cH3.99

 

[Happy MEel]

Also, Fafita received a consorting notice from the NSW Police didn't he ? I don't recall that he was suspended by the NRL for club matches.

There you go...so with precedent having been set, we've now narrowed down Corey's 8 week punishment to filming a sex tape (of which it appears was consensual from
both parties) along with footage of apparent drug taking where there was no mention Corey was partaking and distributing it to other NRL players.

 

[Happy MEel]

What was mitchell pearce done for?
Why can todd carney not get cleared for an nrl gig? (Yeah he is a substantial goose)

They did dumb things, but they only hurt themselves

Agreed...as has Bromwich and Proctor. Perhaps they should get a similar suspension then.

 

[strider]

"Under NRL rules, the first strike results in the player being referred to his club CEO for education and rehabilitation with the second strike resulting in a 12-week suspension. Upon a third strike a player is referred to the NRL CEO for punishment."

Whilst I don't agree with this and believe a harsher punishment should be handed down for 1st strikes, I'm ok with it as long as it's applied consistently.

That being the case, as far as I know and seeing as though there was no mention of a second offence, Norman's drug charge was a 1st strike. Therefore, he received 8 weeks for a one-off consorting warning, filming a sex tape and apparent drug taking (although there was no mention he was involved in the drug taking) and distributing it to other NRL players. Absolutely ridiculous if true.

All I'm after is consistency.

Read more at http://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/05/07/18/29/nrl-accused-of-head-in-sand-over-drugs#c8ASRAE9cDwJ0cH3.99

Yeah but what gronk says is a factor .... the first strike thing is all kept under the rug and no one knows .... but all these other things played out in public

I would feel content if these 2 merkins got 4 weeks and fines .... i think thats fair .... i would still belive norman & pearce were over punished cos the nrl are useless dicks, but i think 4 weeks is a decent punishment

 

[Happy MEel]

Yeah but what gronk says is a factor .... the first strike thing is all kept under the rug and no one knows .... but all these other things played out in public

I would feel content if these 2 merkins got 4 weeks and fines .... i think thats fair .... i would still belive norman & pearce were over punished cos the nrl are useless dicks, but i think 4 weeks is a decent punishment

Yeah I think that would be a fairer punishment. Two weeks is a farce though. This is a quote from Nick Weeks when Corey was punished:

"The message is clear… players cannot put themselves in a position where they may damage their own reputations and that of the game.

We have been consistent this year in imposing strong penalties where players bring the game into disrepute through actions off the field.

Whether it is drug possession, criminal associations or social media use, players understand the consequences that can flow from illegal or other unacceptable conduct."

http://m.nrl.com/nrl-suspends-corey-norman/tabid/10874/newsid/99422/default.aspx

Looks like the consistency started and ended in 2016.