OT: Association Football

[phantom eel]

Santalab. Good player and a good bloke.

Pity he's a racist and bigot...

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/brendon...abbas-couldnt-stay-silent-20140313-hvibs.html

“You [expletive] Arab, Muslim, [expletive].”

That is what the Sydney FC midfielder has told officials Western Sydney Wanderers striker Brendon Santalab called him during the fiery derby at Allianz Stadium.

 

[Gronk]

I just saw goal 4 SFC v CCM.

Atrocious.

 

[Suitman]

Mariners are terrible.
Sorry Twiz, but.....

 

[Stagger eel]

Can anyone get close to the sky blues????

#goFC

 

[Suitman]

Can anyone get close to the sky blues????

#goFC

Going off a bit early mate?

 

[strider]

Yeah they've played 2 shit teams

 

[strider]

Im not a keen follower, so my observations might be misguided ... but it seems like the player turnover is massive in the a-league ... hard to follow who is good from year to year

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

Pity he's a racist and bigot...

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/brendon...abbas-couldnt-stay-silent-20140313-hvibs.html

It's not his go.

 

[Suitman]

Really looking forward to the Melbourne derby.
Should be a cracker.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Actually I missed the game as I was out at karaoke.

And of course if a game goes down to the wire that doesn't mean that the preceding 80-odd minutes were good quality.

If it's close it's always exciting. That's part of the massive appeal of soccer, even when it's played at less than elite standard.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Pity he's a racist and bigot...

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/brendon...abbas-couldnt-stay-silent-20140313-hvibs.html

*alleged

 

[Suitman]

*alleged

Found "Not Guilty".
Mute point raised.


Seriously, has there ever been a better goal in the A-League than that from Tim Cahill?
Simple astounding!!!!

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

Great goal. Wow.

 

[strider]

 

[phantom eel]

If it's close it's always exciting. That's part of the massive appeal of soccer, even when it's played at less than elite standard.

So you do agree that excitement/close finish is a different thing to the standard of game play?

Kind of like an action blockbuster film compared to a best picture oscar nominee... nothing wrong with enjoying an entertaining action film, but let's not try to pretend it's something it's not.

 

[phantom eel]

Found "Not Guilty".
Mute point raised.

*moot

And "not being found guilty" is different to being found "not guilty". Try not to make assumptions from an article headline...

Here's the quote from the actual findings statement re the incident:

"Brendon Santalab accepted that Ali Abbas genuinely believed that the offensive word had been used and did not challenge the fact that Ali Abbas believed he had been the subject of racial abuse," read an FFA statement.

"Having regard to the circumstances surrounding the incident, particularly the undisputed high noise levels and in the absence of other eyewitness or corroborative evidence, it was possible that Ali Abbas may have misheard what was said by Brendon Santalab.

"Therefore the committee was not satisfied to the necessary standard of proof that the offending words were used by Brendon Santalab and dismissed the matter."

https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-a2d4-Santalab-not-guilty-of-racial-slur

Nowhere was he found "not guilty". He was lucky to be let off on technicalities.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So you do agree that excitement/close finish is a different thing to the standard of game play?

Yeah of course.

Kind of like an action blockbuster film compared to a best picture oscar nominee... nothing wrong with enjoying an entertaining action film, but let's not try to pretend it's something it's not.

It is entertainment. Why hold it to any standard other than how entertaining it is?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Nowhere was he found "not guilty". He was lucky to be let off on technicalities.

If you want to get into jargon, he wasn't even charged. It was just one man's word against another and the only court that hands power to the accuser is the court of public opinion.

 

[phantom eel]

Yeah of course.


It is entertainment. Why hold it to any standard other than how entertaining it is?

Well, the discussion was about the standard of the A League competition, relative to the standards of play evidence in other competitions around the world...

You're the one that introduced excitement as a factor to that discussion, and by admitting that it has nothing to do with determining standard of play you've gone full circle, and out the revolving door again...

#poulogic

 

[phantom eel]

If you want to get into jargon, he wasn't even charged. It was just one man's word against another and the only court that hands power to the accuser is the court of public opinion.

I stand by my opinion that he is a racist and bigot.

And I never claimed he was charged - I was simply refuting that he was "found not guilty" as someone had tried to claim.