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Gronk

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I wonder how many genders a bisexual would recognise
The amount of people in the world that identify as LGTBQI+ is estimated at 7%.

That swamps minority groups of people like some religions.

It's more than Buddism.
It's more that Judaism
It's more than the individual flavours of Orthodox.

Ironically, it's a culture war against these minorities promoted by people who identify as being aligned to a religion.

Criticise a religion however and they clutch their pearls. Even get sweary.

Facts are that same-sex relationships and non-heteronormative identities have been present and recognized in human societies across various cultures and historical periods, long before the advent of the Abrahamic religions and their fictional stories scriptures. Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece, Rome, China / Japan and indigenous cultures all say hi.






 

Gary Gutful

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The amount of people in the world that identify as LGTBQI+ is estimated at 7%.

That swamps minority groups of people like some religions.

It's more than Buddism.
It's more that Judaism
It's more than the individual flavours of Orthodox.

Ironically, it's a culture war against these minorities promoted by people who identify as being aligned to a religion.

Criticise a religion however and they clutch their pearls. Even get sweary.

Facts are that same-sex relationships and non-heteronormative identities have been present and recognized in human societies across various cultures and historical periods, long before the advent of the Abrahamic religions and their fictional stories scriptures. Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece, Rome, China / Japan and indigenous cultures all say hi.






That’s all well and good and I’m all for respecting people no matter who they are, but when people are expected to ignore basic biological facts I personally believe that is a step too far.

The pronoun thing is bullshit imo, but I always try and respect it and wouldn’t go out of my way to deliberately offend anyone. As with most things it’s probably only a minor group of activists that go too far and overall I don’t really see it as a major issue.
 

Gronk

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That’s all well and good and I’m all for respecting people no matter who they are, but when people are expected to ignore basic biological facts I personally believe that is a step too far.

The pronoun thing is bullshit imo, but I always try and respect it and wouldn’t go out of my way to deliberately offend anyone. As with most things it’s probably only a minor group of activists that go too far and overall I don’t really see it as a major issue.

The biological facts are, that there is way more to it than some want to concede. Dangly bits often is a guide to the casual observer of gender, but is not the absolute answer.

What gender is this person ? She grew up an aussie girl, until she was told she was a boy. She is the I in LGTBTQI+.

This is only one example. I just don't know why people don't just butt out.


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