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[Gronk]

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

These people are not victims until and unless the court decides.

If that’s the case, Jones will rightly face justice.

But all this premature back-slapping from NSW Police doesn’t help anyone.

He’s being treated differently.

 

[Gronk]

The right wing libs are calling the Jones arrest a witch hunt.

Teena McQueen defends Alan Jones in encrypted WhatsApp group rant

Many in politics were keen to cosy up to Alan Jones when he was a powerful radio broadcaster. While most have ducked for cover, one stands by him.

www.smh.com.au

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

The right wing libs are calling the Jones arrest a witch hunt.

Teena McQueen defends Alan Jones in encrypted WhatsApp group rant

Many in politics were keen to cosy up to Alan Jones when he was a powerful radio broadcaster. While most have ducked for cover, one stands by him.

www.smh.com.au

I wouldn’t go that far.

 

[Incorrect]

I wouldn’t go that far.

Not a witch hunt.... More of a merkin hunt??

 

[Gronk]

These people are not victims until and unless the court decides.

If that’s the case, Jones will rightly face justice.

But all this premature back-slapping from NSW Police doesn’t help anyone.

He’s being treated differently.

Wrong on so many levels.

There is a Charter of Victims' Rights in NSW.

Charter of Victims' Rights - NSW Police Public Site

www.police.nsw.gov.au

Even if a court finds an accused not guilty, a person is still a victim because the verdict means that there wasn't enough evidence to prove that the accused committed the crime, but it doesn't mean that the crime didn't happen.

 

[strider]

These people are not victims until and unless the court decides.

If that’s the case, Jones will rightly face justice.

But all this premature back-slapping from NSW Police doesn’t help anyone.

He’s being treated differently.

I think he may have already been treated differently for years .... this stuff aint new - they have been taking a long time to get to a point they charge him.

Kate McClymont said its taken 4yrs for the story to be revealed. That may of been 4 yrs of him getting treated differently to an average merkin

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Wrong on so many levels.

There is a Charter of Victims' Rights in NSW.

Charter of Victims' Rights - NSW Police Public Site

www.police.nsw.gov.au

Even if a court finds an accused not guilty, a person is still a victim because the verdict means that there wasn't enough evidence to prove that the accused committed the crime, but it doesn't mean that the crime didn't happen.

We’ve got a judiciary Gronky. It’s part of the separation of powers.

It has checks and balances.

It’s job is make decisions of law and fact.

If a person is found to be not guilty, they aren’t guilty.

It’s not for the Police to determine who is guilty or not.

A lot of people have been wrongly charged.

I wouldn’t take NSW police propaganda on its face. It’s a flawed organisation as the ridiculous press conference showed.

The stats (Boscar), read that and you’ll find about 10% shouldn’t have been charged.

The parrot is entitled to the presumption of innocence and let the system do its job.

Chris is a gun lawyer.

 

[T.S Quint]

These people are not victims until and unless the court decides.

If that’s the case, Jones will rightly face justice.

But all this premature back-slapping from NSW Police doesn’t help anyone.

He’s being treated differently.

Price of fame.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I think he may have already been treated differently for years .... this stuff aint new - they have been taking a long time to get to a point they charge him.

Kate McClymont said its taken 4yrs for the story to be revealed. That may of been 4 yrs of him getting treated differently to an average merkin

Doesn’t matter to my point.

They don’t hold press conferences for 99.999% of accused’s.

They should be doing their job not parading around like social influencers trying to curry favour with the masses.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Price of fame.

I think the police have simply opened a door for themselves to be attacked by the defence.

There was simply no need for it and no need for the Commissioner to back up.

 

[Gronk]

How it started.



How it's going.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

How it started.



How it's going.

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A bit better than Biden giving the OK to allow the ukkies to use western missiles against targets in Russia.

Europeans being told to get ready for a nuclear holocaust.

Id prefer a Mac feast.

 

[Legal Eel]

Never said it was. It will hinge on the quality of evidence and the credibility of witness(es) testimony. IIRC there are 8 complainants. Is your default position in these matters judicial agnosticism or to you lean towards the defendant through force of habit ?

Probably force of habit

 

[Avenger]

@Gronk has been far more reasonable in his posts today than a certain member who comes across as either naive, heavily biased, or simply ignorant.

 

[Legal Eel]

@Gronk has been far more reasonable in his posts today than a certain member who comes across as either naive, heavily biased, or simply ignorant.

No, I'm just playing devil's advocate for the defence...certainly no endorsement of Mr Jones!

 

[Gronk]

@Gronk has been far more reasonable in his posts today than a certain member who comes across as either naive, heavily biased, or simply ignorant.

I'm always reasonable. You just haven't noticed.

 

[T.S Quint]

@Gronk has been far more reasonable in his posts today than a certain member who comes across as either naive, heavily biased, or simply ignorant.

Sorry.

I'll try and do better.

 

[T.S Quint]

Haha, no I won't!

 

[T.S Quint]

Doesn't this go completely against conservative America's ideals of "f**k off I can do what I want. No government is going to tell me what I can and can't eat! Freeeedooooom"