OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[T.S Quint]

High school or primary school? What grade do you teach out of interest??

I reckon he’s High School Science .

I love my kids teachers.

Primary school.
1st grade this year.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Primary school.
1st grade this year.

Excellent.

I call our teachers the “ hope of the side”

Grossly undervalued, too many leave.

Thanks for your work.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The quote was “you can’t bomb yourself to peace”.

The rebuttal was, it worked in Japan.

Well, in Iraq for example, they bombed the f**k out of that country to overthrow the leader. While that regime fell, the ensuing power vacuum led to insurgency, civil war, and the rise of ISIS.

ISIS arose because national borders don’t match the demographic distribution of Sunni Muslims in the Levant.

Where national borders do align with ethnic groupings, states are very stable and relatively easy to coerce. Examples are Japan and Saudi Arabia. In a multipolar world, such as exists with the rise of China, these states are again becoming harder to control, as they play China and the West off against each other.

Nuclear weapons ? If they used nuclear weapons on Iraq, because they had WMDs, (oops), would that have changed anything?

Well they just wanted regime change, and they didn’t need nuclear weapons to get it. You’ll notice Iraq hasn’t invaded any of its neighbours since Saddam Hussein was overthrown.

Well it was really about oil and the west were pissed that Saddam nationalised oil production - he blocked foreign investors like Exxon, Shell etc from being able to drill for it themselves. From the US POV, they didn’t want Iraq to have their hand on the tap.

What a cluster f**k and our guy still lies to this very time about it.

No, nuclear weapons would not have prevented ISIS, and imagine using that shit on a false premise that THEY had WMDs. Eek how embarrassment.

Just on a tangent, I think the world are very lucky that the only times that nukes have been used in anger is against the Japanese. Their population holds no grudges. I don’t think the arab nations would be so forgiving.

So you tell me, under what circumstances ARE nuclear weapons appropriate ? When in history should they have been used to bring peace ?

They are used to bring peace to the wielder, not the victim. Iraq was a problem neighbour and now they’re not. Is Kuwait having problems with terrorists these days? They sure as shit aren’t having problems with Iraq any more.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Still reckon bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme?

What’s changed to stop it being a Ponzi scheme?

 

[Avenger]

What’s changed to stop it being a Ponzi scheme?

Nice try dickhead.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Nice try dickhead.

Plenty of merkins make money in Ponzi schemes

 

[Avenger]

Plenty of merkins make money in Ponzi schemes

It's also unlawful.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Primary school.
1st grade this year.

My little bloke is in year one. It’s the best age.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Supporting Parra is just a Ponzi Scheme for plumbers.

 

[the phantom menace]

Lol at Alan...

 

[T.S Quint]

My little bloke is in year one. It’s the best age.

My eldest goes into year one next year.
I’ll be taking next year off work to be a stay-at-home parent for a while. The missus got a new job which is a shitload more hectic than her last one, so it’s my job to run the house and take care of the kids while she stresses out and tries to make shitloads of money.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Lol at Alan...

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I don’t like the parrot but:

Allegations only but the cops hold a big press conference, like they’d caught Bin Laden.

Why are the cameras everywhere out the front of his place when he’s arrested?

Freak accident?

Some kind of carnival circus show, without any finding by any court.

This state is a joke.

 

[Gronk]

I don’t like the parrot but:

Allegations only but the cops hold a big press conference, like they’d caught Bin Laden.

Why are the cameras everywhere out the front of his place when he’s arrested?

Freak accident?

Some kind of carnival circus show, without any finding by any court.

This state is a joke.

I think you have joined the dots a bit to suit your justice activism personality. Which is noble, and certainly not a put down in anyway, as I join you in spirit.

The strikeforce obtained both an arrest and search warrants and raided Jones’s flat. They were there for hours. That meant that there were cop cars skewed out front in Macquarie street with cops coming and going. It would not take long for residents to leak who they are visiting. Meanwhile Jones has called Chris Murphy with a WTF phone call. I mean which celebrity or NRL player doesn’t have CM’s number in their phone?

This is a high profile arrest, so a presser happens to stop stupid rumours. To reinforce that these arrests are not undertaken without significant investigation and confidence in prosecution.

BTW, it should be noted that of the 8/9 victims in these tranche of charges, one was a minor who was 17 at the time of the offence.

Broadcaster Alan Jones charged with historical indecent assault and sexual touching offences spanning two decades

Child Abuse Squad detectives have charged veteran broadcaster Alan Jones following an investigation into alleged indecent assault and sexual touching offences spanning two decades.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Legal Eel]

To reinforce that these arrests are not undertaken without significant investigation and confidence in prosecution

I will take slight issue with that...I agree that the arrests require significant investigation and confidence in prosecution. However, from experience that investigation can also be hampered by pre-conceived biases or be viewed the lens of other persuasive evidence.

As for confidence, it can often be misplaced...I have seen (and also acted in) some high profile matters where the prosecution was adamant and bullish - and the conviction wasn't achieved and justifiably so.

So the investigation and confidence of prosecution is not a confirmation of guilt by any measure

 

[Legal Eel]

I think you have joined the dots a bit to suit your justice activism personality. Which is noble, and certainly not a put down in anyway, as I join you in spirit.

The strikeforce obtained both an arrest and search warrants and raided Jones’s flat. They were there for hours. That meant that there were cop cars skewed out front in Macquarie street with cops coming and going. It would not take long for residents to leak who they are visiting. Meanwhile Jones has called Chris Murphy with a WTF phone call. I mean which celebrity or NRL player doesn’t have CM’s number in their phone?

This is a high profile arrest, so a presser happens to stop stupid rumours. To reinforce that these arrests are not undertaken without significant investigation and confidence in prosecution.

BTW, it should be noted that of the 8/9 victims in these tranche of charges, one was a minor who was 17 at the time of the offence.

Broadcaster Alan Jones charged with historical indecent assault and sexual touching offences spanning two decades

Child Abuse Squad detectives have charged veteran broadcaster Alan Jones following an investigation into alleged indecent assault and sexual touching offences spanning two decades.

www.abc.net.au

Mind you, I also have my own opinions and note that the confluence of events is certainly not favourable to Alan Jones and, if guilty, these are truly heinous offences deserving of full punishment.

 

[Gronk]

I will take slight issue with that...I agree that the arrests require significant investigation and confidence in prosecution. However, from experience that investigation can also be hampered by pre-conceived biases or be viewed the lens of other persuasive evidence.

As for confidence, it can often be misplaced...I have seen (and also acted in) some high profile matters where the prosecution was adamant and bullish - and the conviction wasn't achieved and justifiably so.

So the investigation and confidence of prosecution is not a confirmation of guilt by any measure

Never said it was. It will hinge on the quality of evidence and the credibility of witness(es) testimony. IIRC there are 8 complainants. Is your default position in these matters judicial agnosticism or to you lean towards the defendant through force of habit ?

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I thought it was improper for NSW Police to hold a press conference.

It’s not their job.

If their are rumours abounding in the public sphere, so be it.

 

[strider]

I thought it was improper for NSW Police to hold a press conference.

It’s not their job.

If their are rumours abounding in the public sphere, so be it.

They do press conferences for high profile things.

As for the press seemingly tipped off about the arrest???? ..... were they there when the police rocked up? .... i assume it was mostly dudes in suits who turned up and not entirely obvious what was going on immediately.

 

[T.S Quint]

They do press conferences for high profile things.

As for the press seemingly tipped off about the arrest???? ..... were they there when the police rocked up? .... i assume it was mostly dudes in suits who turned up and not entirely obvious what was going on immediately.

I doubt it's an everyday occurance for a shitload of police cars to be hanging around the Finger Wharf apartments.
I assume the press was there because it raised some interest from locals.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I’m sure there’s nothing in any Act or Regulation that compels the NSW Police to hold a press conference about the arrest of someone.

Then the Commissioner called for other “victims” to step forward.

Extraordinarily prejudicial and biased conduct from NSW Police.

They could well be rooting their own case. They’ve done it before and they never f**king learn.