OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Bazal]

Semantics. The group known as centrists includes ideologies from the centre left to the centre right. Precisely because the exact centre is elusive.

Nope.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Uh-huh

 

[Bandwagon]

You said yourself he is right of centre.

I did.

And I'm glad you now accept that, despite your very convincing arguments of his marital status and of "but he is".

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I remember a time when counter arguments around here were of a higher standard.

 

[Bandwagon]

Left of centre, right of centre. It's all in the centre.

No, that's centre left / centre right. the actual centre ( which is likely a mythical place ) is neither left nor right.

 

[Eelogical]

Semantics. The group known as centrists includes ideologies from the centre left to the centre right. Precisely because the exact centre is elusive.

What does it mean when someone says semantics?
Have you ever heard someone say, "That's just semantics?" Basically, they're saying you're picking apart the meaning of a word to draw a different conclusion but it all means the same thing. It's possible the person saying, "It's just semantics," is wrong, though.

 

[Gary Gutful]

The centre is a fairly broad place. There's room for competing ideas there. That's why in some elections the 'left' win and in others it's the 'right'. Because they won the centre.

So when the left wins, thats a victory for the left of centre. And vice versa, merkin.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Australia's first shopping centre was built in 1957. I'm guessing that the left shopped at Mullumbimby Markets and the Right got their maid to get their stuff.


1957 First Australian shopping mall


Chermside Drive-In Shopping Centre in Brisbane was the first mall-style shopping centre in Australia. It was opened on 31 May 1957 by the then Premier of Queensland, Vince Gair. Chermside initially contained an Allan & Stark department store (later bought by Myer), a BCC supermarket and 24 specialty stores. It had its own car park with space for 650 cars and covered 28 acres. The centre was bought by Westfield in 1996.

Still a great shopping centre, even if it is filled with little shits.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I did.

And I'm glad you now accept that, despite your very convincing arguments of his marital status and of "but he is".

I never denied he was right of centre. I just made clear that that is still the centre. No need to convince you when it was your point I was clarifying.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No, that's centre left / centre right. the actual centre ( which is likely a mythical place ) is neither left nor right.

Centrists would disagree.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What does it mean when someone says semantics?
Have you ever heard someone say, "That's just semantics?" Basically, they're saying you're picking apart the meaning of a word to draw a different conclusion but it all means the same thing. It's possible the person saying, "It's just semantics," is wrong, though.

True. Which is why I clarified.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So when the left wins, thats a victory for the left of centre. And vice versa, merkin.

Yep, which is why the left were unhappy with Obama while the right are dissatisfied with Trump. And when either wins it's because the opposition were pandering too much to the fringes. Like Chris Uhlmann said on Stormfront or whichever right wing publication he writes for these days.

 

[Bandwagon]

Centrists would disagree.

I don't care, Centrists are self appointed, everyone seems to believe they represent the centre, because everyone they know is either to their left or right somewhere.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Yep, which is why the left were unhappy with Obama while the right are dissatisfied with Trump. And when either wins it's because the opposition were pandering too much to the fringes. Like Chris Uhlmann said on Stormfront or whichever right wing publication he writes for these days.

Breitbart

 

[Bazal]

Breitbart

BreitBartman*

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't care, Centrists are self appointed, everyone seems to believe they represent the centre, because everyone they know is either to their left or right somewhere.

They should know based on the policies they support.

 

[Gary Gutful]

BreitBartman*

Every article is about Suity.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Breitbart

It was the Sydney Morning Damn Herald

 

[Bandwagon]

They should know based on the policies they support.

Support for a given policy is a weak replacement for understanding the ideology underpinning a policy and why you support it.

Which is not to demean the idea of voting upon policy because of how it affects you, but it is to say opinion on policy is a poor means by which to establish your political leanings.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

When deciding how left/right you are, support for policy is a good enough proxy.