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[hindy111]

Mate bird watchers are conservationists. Little brats who pull heads off birds are not conservationists.

I released them back into the wild after 7 days of captivity.

 

[Gronk]

Quite right @Chipmunk

 

[Gronk]

Prolly the right time for this. IIRC The White Paper into tax reform (2014) said that this was necessary to compliment income tax / company tax reforms.

 

[Chipmunk]

Prolly the right time for this. IIRC The White Paper into tax reform (2014) said that this was necessary to compliment income tax / company tax reforms.

Given that the Australian Taxation Office has ZERO, yes ZERO, say into Taxation policy, I'd say the entire report is complete garbage.

The Department of Treasury is responsible for Taxation policy in this country. The Australian Taxation Office is purely an arm of the Government that just goes out and collects the Taxation that the Federal Government tells it that is must collect. It has no say in what it should or should not collect.

The muppets that write these stupid articles have ZERO, yes ZERO, idea of how the Federal Government system operates and how things actually work and come about in the Federal Government.

 

[Gronk]

Given that the Australian Taxation Office has ZERO, yes ZERO, say into Taxation policy, I'd say the entire report is complete garbage.

The Department of Treasury is responsible for Taxation policy in this country. The Australian Taxation Office is purely an arm of the Government that just goes out and collects the Taxation that the Federal Government tells it that is must collect. It has no say in what it should or should not collect.

The muppets that write these stupid articles have ZERO, yes ZERO, idea of how the Federal Government system operates and how things actually work and come about in the Federal Government.

The conversation was started by Ken Henry after his 2009/10 review was deemed all too hard by successive governments.

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parlia..._Library/pubs/BriefingBook43p/futuretaxsystem

He’s NAB chairman now and revved it up in March.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the...t-the-gst-ken-henry-says-20180302-p4z2kg.html

 

[Chipmunk]

The conversation was started by Ken Henry after his 2009/10 review was deemed all too hard by successive governments.

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parlia..._Library/pubs/BriefingBook43p/futuretaxsystem

He’s NAB chairman now and revved it up in March.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the...t-the-gst-ken-henry-says-20180302-p4z2kg.html

And again, I will point out, that Ken Henry has never had anything to do with the ATO. He was however the Secretary of the Department of Treasury

Incidentally, didn't he quit his role at the NAB?

 

[Chipmunk]

This brings me to another issue on exceptionally poor journalism in the 21st century, where people just have to write and produce articles for content. for the sake of producing content.

There was an article I read online the other day that indicated that the Liberals only got 27 percent of the Primary vote and only one government due to the fact that they got preferences from people that voted Liberal National Party and National Party.

Like come on....do these f**kers who report on politics know anything about Australian Politics or just write shit on something they know nothing about and see a stat and write pure garbage words from that.

To suggest that any journalist would write and subsequent newspaper would put to print that the Liberals got preferences from the LNP or Nats to form Government is just absurd.

 

[Gronk]

And again, I will point out, that Ken Henry has never had anything to do with the ATO. He was however the Secretary of the Department of Treasury

Incidentally, didn't he quit his role at the NAB?

I think you and I are talking about two different things. What I posted was about the potential of now being the right time to reinvigorate the tax system by broadening the consumption tax. I flagged the Australia’s Future Tax System (aka Henry Review) which was commissioned by the Rudd Government and released in 2010. The panel consisted of Henry, a pollie, two economic professors and a CEO.

Not entirely sure why you are focused on Treasury vs ATO semantics.

http://taxreview.treasury.gov.au/co...ns/Papers/Consultation_Paper/review_panel.htm

 

[Gronk]

Incidentally, didn't he quit his role at the NAB?

Yes but still there.

https://www.nab.com.au/about-us/our-business-at-a-glance/board-of-directors/kenneth-r-henry-ac

 

[Gary Gutful]

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[Gronk]

Sinodinas has taken the Ambassador gig at Washington. That means he resigns from the senate and the Libs can parachute anyone they like into his place. Can be any citizen.

Labor did the same with Bob Carr and most recently Keneally who took Sam Dastayari’s place.

Anywho, I hope they nominate Colin.

 

[Chipmunk]

Sinodinas has taken the Ambassador gig at Washington. That means he resigns from the senate and the Libs can parachute anyone they like into his place. Can be any citizen.

Labor did the same with Bob Carr and most recently Keneally who took Sam Dastayari’s place.

Anywho, I hope they nominate Colin.

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My guess would be Jim Molan

 

[Gary Gutful]

No chance. Colin has it in the bag.

 

[hindy111]

No chance. Colin has it in the bag.

Colin's a f**kwit

 

[Gronk]

My guess would be Jim Molan

That seems to be the common view. Does not make a lot of sense that they place him in an unwinnable 4th position on the senate ticket, then drop him in afterwards. During the campaign he upset many within his party by telling punters to ignore a coalition policy and vote below the line.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/liberal...-voters-to-ignore-party-s-voting-instructions

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...n-accused-of-breaking-the-coalition-agreement

Colin has been very gracious by not pumping up his own tyres.

 

[Gronk]

Colin's a f**kwit

Man of the people. Colin has the guts to say what you’re thinking.

 

[Chipmunk]

That seems to be the common view. Does not make a lot of sense that they place him in an unwinnable 4th position on the senate ticket, then drop him in afterwards. During the campaign he upset many within his party by telling punters to ignore a coalition policy and vote below the line.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/liberal...-voters-to-ignore-party-s-voting-instructions

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...n-accused-of-breaking-the-coalition-agreement

Colin has been very gracious by not pumping up his own tyres.

This from what I recall was all about factional deals. If I'm not mistaken someone withdrew from the Wentworth pre-selection and was guaranteed a gig in the Senate for his. I'd imagine then some other faction had to have their person in a winnable position on the ticket, then the National's get a spot, as it's combined in the Senate, so they were number 3 on the ticket. I think the number 3 will get a Senate spot on current numbers. Theoretically, Molan is next in line in any case.

In fact, here is an article that tells the story above pretty much - https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...im-molan-s-senate-career-20181124-p50i3t.html

The landscape of the Liberal Party has changed a lot since November. In fact it's changed a lot in 2 weeks! Morrison will get his man I suggest.

 

[Chipmunk]

Man of the people. Colin has the guts to say what you’re thinking.

Who is Colin?

Edit - I've looked up Colin. Why does he get a guest appearance in this forum? He's not exactly @Alec's-saints

 

[Gary Gutful]

Isn't there a little bit of Colin in all of us?